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Collete

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I've come to terms with that I have given up on everything mentally but the past weeks have been weird, almost feels like my body is giving up as well. Random pains everywhere, headaches, no appetite, can't sleep due to pain in muscles. Why can't I just not wake up one day.

Same with me as of late...
So far I've been with days where I just haven't eaten...
I just don't get thirsty anymore either...
And as usual, the feeling like I'm drowning never stops...
I kind of wish I had some sort of illness I didn't know about and die peacefully in my sleep..

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I don't think we'll get there as soon as we like it too though...(Treating mental illness as a real illness that is)
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
So i've been given a new Anti-D medication.

It's called Ixel: Milnacipran ... Suppose to help focus and give me energy. Its 25mg capsules of Milncacipran-Hydrochlorid.

Suppose to take 1 a day for 3 days, than 2 .. than in 3 weeks time maybe more.

Anybody got experience with this? I've suffered trauma last year that effected me deeply. Left me clinically depressed for many months now.


It's an SNRI, like Effexor. It's approved for fibromyalgia, but not depression, in the US right now. That may be more to do with there being only 2 other FDA-approved fibromyalgia drugs and twenty-some ADs than with its effectiveness in depression (I almost guarantee that's why).

Did the trauma directly cause the emotional issues (i.e. a frontal head injury) or is thinking about the trauma causing the problems? If the latter, therapy may be indicated (along with the med).
 

mooooose

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My dad's way of "helping me" is always trivializing my problems. If I'm struggling in school, he lists off what his demanding schedule requires him to do. He says my feelings are silly, not harshly but in a "babying" way, as if the thought of suicide should be ignored and not be considered. He says "everyone" has problems (which is true but doesn't make me feel any better). He says his friend has cancer, his other friend is in huge financial debt, etc. and says "don't your problems seem like nothing now?".

I hate when he does this.

On the other hand, my mom assumes that all my issues stem from her, what did she wrong, I have to snap out of it, I need to get my shit together, etc.

I hate when she does that.

I want help again so bad.
 
There can be so much guilt about that "I didn't get to say goodbye/tell her how much she was loved" thing. But really, I'm sure that your friendship meant the world to her. It's completely obvious that you're a very loyal, devoted friend - I think that those of us lucky enough to get to know you a bit more here in the thread or on skype are really moved by just what an incredible friend you are. If anything good can come out of losing a friend, hopefully it's that you appreciate the people in your life all the more, and you'll be more likely to let them know that.

I love writing letters and, in contrast to how silly I generally like to be, I tend to write very earnest, almost sappy (okay, pretty damn sappy - but heartfelt!) letters. Prax and I recently exchanged letters (and anyone can PM me if they know me a bit and would like a letter from me!), and I just liked committing to some kind of permanent record, in my own handwriting, that I think she's a wonderful person, an amazing friend, and a tireless force for good in this thread. I hope she knew how I felt about her without me saying it directly, but it's just really nice to know that I HAVE said it directly, and she can hold the proof in her own hands.

I think one of the best ways to deal with the death of someone you loved is to try to effect some kind of positive change in your life and carry it with you. Being an even better friend to people is wonderful, but this can also involve taking some quality that you loved about that person and making it a focus of your own life. I lost a very close friend who was a musician. I listen to way more music now, and I try to share that love of music with others (particularly my son, who is named after my deceased friend - I don't expect my son to be a copy of him or anything, but I want to expose him to a lot of music and hopefully he'll get as much out of it as I do). It's my small way of making him more present in my life and kind of carrying on his life's work in a very modest way.

Thanks Bagels, it means a lot to me. I actually wrote some the other night! And didn't think it was awful, so maybe I am trying to be closer to her that way.

Thanks everybody. I'm trying to get a doctor's appt. or something but my mom is one of those people who thinks I can beat it with some happy thoughts.

My mom is like this as well, so much so that I stopped telling her when things are bad. She's awesome, and I love her to death, but her 'Well, buck up!' is a bit annoying.

Same with me as of late...
So far I've been with days where I just haven't eaten...
I just don't get thirsty anymore either...
And as usual, the feeling like I'm drowning never stops...
I kind of wish I had some sort of illness I didn't know about and die peacefully in my sleep..
I don't think we'll get there as soon as we like it too though...(Treating mental illness as a real illness that is)

I can't do anything but offer hugs.
 

Xun

Member
RIP uchip, just saw what happened in the other thread. Sorry to see you go.
All the best for the future, I hope you find a way out of the misery, somehow. If that shit is even possible.

As for me, more and more I'm coming to the conclusion that I am fucked for good. My anxiety is never going away, and along with that, my depression is here to stay too. Oh and did I mention I also have ADHS and my fucking shrink doesn't want to prescribe me adderall/ritalin, even though I have the attention span of a hummingbird on crack cocaine?

Things I'll never have:
- a life among people that doesn't involve severe anxiety every single day
- a fulfilling job
- a girlfriend/wife
- kid(s)

Yeah, fuck life. Luckily (?) I'm too lazy to jump through the 5 bazillion hoops that stand between me and getting a gun. Seems like I'll continue plodding along my miserable path towards a master's degree and, eventually, a phD; and start living a miserable life off unemployment benefits afterwards.
Eh? He's not dead, right?
 

EdmondD

Member
You guys need to eat and drink something. Don't starve yourself force yourself to eat something. If you don't you will only feel worse and worse. Your body needs nutrition. Grab some bread and spread some peanut butter on it and force it down. At the very least try to drink plenty of water.

Corky sounds like you need to see a doctor. Please do. If you need someone to talk to you can talk to me anytime. I know you don't know me but the offer stands.

Moooose I assume your parents don't believe you need medication or therapy? You may need to take matters into your own hands and find yourself help if at all possible.
 

BadTaste

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You guys need to eat and drink something. Don't starve yourself force yourself to eat something. If you don't you will only feel worse and worse. Your body needs nutrition. Grab some bread and spread some peanut butter on it and force it down. At the very least try to drink plenty of water.

Corky sounds like you need to see a doctor. Please do. If you need someone to talk to you can talk to me anytime. I know you don't know me but the offer stands.

Moooose I assume your parents don't believe you need medication or therapy? You may need to take matters into your own hands and find yourself help if at all possible.

Been doing this myself, it's incredibly hard and sickening at times forcing myself to eat, i've been taking a weight gainer shake too, all 700ml of it daily. Hopefully it pays off in the end, being an Ectomorph sucks.
 

BlazinAm

Junior Member
I had plans to go the gym everyday this week and I have yet to go. I just pace back and forth just think about so many things and then look at the time and the gym is closed. I am trying to get some work done and I don't focus on micro-tasking the job at hand and instead think about the overview. I wish I could just focus.

Edit: I did buy a new laptop on Monday.... I guess I did something positive for myself. I know I can hit all my goals but this thing; anxiety or stress, I don't know is holding me back.
 

Collete

Member
You guys need to eat and drink something. Don't starve yourself force yourself to eat something. If you don't you will only feel worse and worse. Your body needs nutrition. Grab some bread and spread some peanut butter on it and force it down. At the very least try to drink plenty of water.

At this point I honestly don't care if I feel worse and worse...I honestly just don't give a damn...I forced myself to eat today but it just didn't help and I feel worse than I did before I ate...

On another note, I did email the only therapist in driving distance about her costs to go to her. She apparently has a sliding scale payment type...She was on maternity leave two weeks ago, so I waited till she came back....We'll see how it goes....I dunno what to do if I can't afford it....
 

BlazinAm

Junior Member
You guys need to eat and drink something. Don't starve yourself force yourself to eat something. If you don't you will only feel worse and worse. Your body needs nutrition. Grab some bread and spread some peanut butter on it and force it down. At the very least try to drink plenty of water.

Corky sounds like you need to see a doctor. Please do. If you need someone to talk to you can talk to me anytime. I know you don't know me but the offer stands.

Moooose I assume your parents don't believe you need medication or therapy? You may need to take matters into your own hands and find yourself help if at all possible.

I don't want to gain weight, I want to lose weight for myself. I am trying to consume less carbs; bread/ rice. But that is all around me. I have trying to eat better but my sleeping schedule is still so out of normalcy. I have been eating fruits every day but I still feel tried rather early on in the day.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
Really, really briefly - you can make AD side-effects work for you. Paroxetine and mirtazapine (Paxil and Remeron) tend to make people hungry while bupropion (Wellbutrin) is the AD associated with the least weight gain.

If you have trouble forcing yourself to eat, you might try paroxetine or mirtazapine.
 

EdmondD

Member
At this point I honestly don't care if I feel worse and worse...I honestly just don't give a damn...I forced myself to eat today but it just didn't help and I feel worse than I did before I ate...

On another note, I did email the only therapist in driving distance about her costs to go to her. She apparently has a sliding scale payment type...She was on maternity leave two weeks ago, so I waited till she came back....We'll see how it goes....I dunno what to do if I can't afford it....

I apologize if I came off condescending. I realize that forcing yourself to eat something can make you feel even sicker. I just dont want people to starve themselves. I've felt the way you have before. I just did not give a fuck. I wanted to die. Somehow I survived even when it seemed I had no hope. I hope I have put those days behind me but some days the darkness comes back to swallow me. It's good that you are looking for a therapist. Good luck.
 
One of "those" days.
Right there with you.
Worst day I've had in 2 weeks.

This is my first post in this thread but I'm really glad it exists.

Barely made it through the day :/
Had an intense feeling of anxiety all day long regardless of where I was or who I was with. Feeling really depressed now.


Hopefully tomorrow is better. I was doing really well until today.
 
My mom is like this as well, so much so that I stopped telling her when things are bad. She's awesome, and I love her to death, but her 'Well, buck up!' is a bit annoying.
It's pretty much how things are about it. I always feel like I'm bugging her because she either says, "Well, it's probably because of blah blah blah and you should just exercise and eat really healthy and think happier!" or she's like "Well. *sigh* I guess if you FEEL you need help, I can see what I can do."

I love her, but she just doesn't understand and she isn't patient enough to let me think of how to explain it.

Gah.

How long have you felt this way? How old are you?

18. Felt this way for years.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
I'm just at rock bottom. I don't even know where to begin other than after watching my mom slowly die of cancer for three years, she died horribly in agony, I now have a health issue that terrifies me, my other mental health and anxiety issues have just exploded, I'm feeling utterly hopeless after three years of unemployment, and my relationship with the one family member that I'm close to is completely imploding. I'll elaborate on all of this if I get some mental clarity, but like I said, I don't even know where to begin. I'm just completely falling apart.
 

Collete

Member
I apologize if I came off condescending. I realize that forcing yourself to eat something can make you feel even sicker. I just dont want people to starve themselves. I've felt the way you have before. I just did not give a fuck. I wanted to die. Somehow I survived even when it seemed I had no hope. I hope I have put those days behind me but some days the darkness comes back to swallow me. It's good that you are looking for a therapist. Good luck.

You're ok, don't worry about it.
I appreciate the concern however, but I just really don't care...

Being lonely is the worst feeling in the world... I'd rather die than feel lonely for the rest of my life...

"Don't worry..., I know you don't want to be alone...It's okay, I'll be here with you."


I'm also lonely....It eats me away slowly...

I'm just at rock bottom. I don't even know where to begin other than after watching my mom slowly die of cancer for three years, she died horribly in agony, I now have a health issue that terrifies me, my other mental health and anxiety issues have just exploded, I'm feeling utterly hopeless after three years of unemployment, and my relationship with the one family member that I'm close to is completely imploding. I'll elaborate on all of this if I get some mental clarity, but like I said, I don't even know where to begin. I'm just completely falling apart.

I'm not in the best of mental states at the moment either, but all I can say is, my deepest apologies for your loss. I never could offer you much, even my first post here..., but you can PM me, as well as edmond.
 

EdmondD

Member
I'm lonely as well. I feel my loneliness is the major factor in my depression at least in recent times. Used to be I was okay being alone. I actually used to prefer to be alone. I wasn't happy but I was content. Now, I feel it slowly killing me.


Mad Pierrot my condolences for the loss of your mother. Your dealing with a lot of shit that even the strongest person would struggle with. Try to stay strong. If you need someone to talk to feel free to PM me.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
You can let any of us know if you want to talk, we'll always be here to listen. It's probably not the best case to become less lonely, but it's definitely not the worst case either. Just never forget, you're not alone.
 

Prax

Member
I am sorry I have no been responding much, but I have been reading and trying to keep up (but now I am playing Fire Emblem: Awakening sooo heeeehh~).
And that glowing message from Bagels.. oh gosh. I was kind of too humbled to come back for a bit! xD
I totally sent a letter back to him too, guys. You all should. We can have penpals group going! Bagels has really purdy handwriting. And mine is awful. But I can try to send cutesy stationary I have laying around in an effort to mask that. :>

It's pretty much how things are about it. I always feel like I'm bugging her because she either says, "Well, it's probably because of blah blah blah and you should just exercise and eat really healthy and think happier!" or she's like "Well. *sigh* I guess if you FEEL you need help, I can see what I can do."

I love her, but she just doesn't understand and she isn't patient enough to let me think of how to explain it.

Gah.

18. Felt this way for years.
I think that's just how people act when they don't really understand. But at least she's making the effort in some way. And even if she doesn't understand, you might have to handhold her through the process of helping you. Like "Okay mom, I need you to do this for me because I don't know if I can do it. This is the number that needs to be called, these are the details. This is the cost." Type of thing.

It's hard if you feel like you have to take care of yourself when you're at your lowest and can barely give a damn, but you do what you need to do and you muster the strength to pull through! If you can, you give tasks to others who have the energy to do some of the heavy lifting for you. You can be compassionate and sympathetic to others and appreciate that you are asking them to do things for you that is a slight inconvenience, but you also need compassion and sympathy for yourself, and if that means you need to be a self-advocate, then that is what needs to be done.

I myself always think about how I can be a strong person to protect the weak or people unable to voice themselves, but on another level, I am also a weak person that is prone to all sorts of failure. But I can also be my own hero if it seems that others won't step in. That's the kind of mindset I've been trying to develop anyway (plus, it's okay to be weak sometimes).

I'm just at rock bottom. I don't even know where to begin other than after watching my mom slowly die of cancer for three years, she died horribly in agony, I now have a health issue that terrifies me, my other mental health and anxiety issues have just exploded, I'm feeling utterly hopeless after three years of unemployment, and my relationship with the one family member that I'm close to is completely imploding. I'll elaborate on all of this if I get some mental clarity, but like I said, I don't even know where to begin. I'm just completely falling apart.
My condolences for your experience and it sounds like you're going through a very difficult time. Since you are, I would suggest taking it easier on yourself and focus on things that brings you a feeling of stability and productivity (like organizing or gardening or something). Don't kick yourself when you're already down.

I know the economy is not great for finding a job, much less an actual career, so hang in there and look for small ways to "work" while you're not working so you have a feeling of structure in your life. And sleep well! Try to structure your sleep in a healthy manner so you at least have that. Hopefully things get better between you and your loved ones. We'll be here to listen/read when you feel ready.

Being lonely is the worst feeling in the world... I'd rather die than feel lonely for the rest of my life...
I wish I could really relate on this feeling of loneliness so I had more words or thoughts to share about them...
Because I'm kind of a loner at heart but I am close to my family and we interact daily, it's hard for me to understand what feeling lonely actually is, unless you mean something like.. being in a room full of strangers and feeling out of place and not wanting to speak to anyone. I think I know that feeling well enough (but that's more about being judged than about feeling lonely, I think).

Maybe it helps to take joy in the small interactions you do have with people. Most people are at least a little bit shallow when it comes to their interactions. They are automatic responses and generally "polite" or "pleasant", but you don't have to think of it as dismissive or lacking of significance. For some people, they are trying their darndest to make human connections with a shallow hello, and that is something to be appreciated. And it's good you at least have some kind of outlet to try to make connections.. being this forum, the chats, maybe even seeing friends or family or just going out and being pleasant as a customer. All those things count in my book. So putting in effort, appreciating others' efforts, and assuming others appreciate your effort (it's not a bad assumption!). I think that helps.

(Also, play FE: Awakening and give yourself some frustrating happiness. I think I saw you in the thread so that must mean you are a fan!)

You're ok, don't worry about it.
I appreciate the concern however, but I just really don't care...

"Don't worry..., I know you don't want to be alone...It's okay, I'll be here with you."

I'm also lonely....It eats me away slowly...

I'm not in the best of mental states at the moment either, but all I can say is, my deepest apologies for your loss. I never could offer you much, even my first post here..., but you can PM me, as well as edmond.
Even if you don't care, you need to treat yourself like a sad kid that doesn't care and take care of yourself. Coax yourself into eating and caring for yourself, reward yourself for it in some way.

I don't know why I'm thinking of an analogy with an upset kid (maybe it's because I generally like kids), but it's like a kid who withdraws or runs away and doesn't want to be helped because they kind of believe that they won't be helped, that they can't trust the grown up/parent to make the right decision and take care of them. But you can't let this kid have their way like that. They will get sick or learn bad habits or get more and more distrustful of the world. They need gentle discipline. Guidance. And love. They need that structured nurturing so that trust can be earned. And maybe your parents or people around you can't do that for you right now (or they are trying and you are refusing it), but you can try to be your own caretaker first, and then maybe it will be easier for you to let others help you too. The part of you that is still rational and compassionate needs to hug and care for the less hopeful part and earn its trust. It's like learning to live again.

(also, as a disclaimer: I don't really know how to raise kids, since I am not a mother, but that is my logic both as a former kid and now as a person that likes kids! And I know some things about developmental psychology despite being kind of rusty on all the details since it's been a long while.. So hopefully my points are valid!)

I'm lonely as well. I feel my loneliness is the major factor in my depression at least in recent times. Used to be I was okay being alone. I actually used to prefer to be alone. I wasn't happy but I was content. Now, I feel it slowly killing me.

Mad Pierrot my condolences for the loss of your mother. Your dealing with a lot of shit that even the strongest person would struggle with. Try to stay strong. If you need someone to talk to feel free to PM me.
Depression seems to have a huge impact on making people feel disconnected in general, I think. And the less connected you feel, the more lonely, and then the more depressed. It's like you have to look harder for significance in human connections and convince yourself they count. It's always easier to do when you're with people who share hobbies, interests, passions, and experiences with you though, so at least you are here!
 

Empty

Member
i recently read a book called a life too short. it's a biography of the german international goalkeeper robert enke who struggled with depression in his career and committed suicide in 2009 about six months before he was set to play in the world cup. it's a very good book, full of great insights about depression, using his diaries and in depth interviews with his wife and closest friends to really take you through his life in an intimate and sensitive way. the contradiction between the demands of his profession and his mental state is also very interesting if you're interested in the sport.

anyway i found it incredibly helpful to read despite the bleak subject matter for a few reasons which i'd like to write about for a bit. firstly it was just so comforting and nice to relate to someone like that and not feel so alone. i get that by reading this thread too which i like a lot but it's different when there's 400 pages and you get a really good sense of someone as a complete person instead of a series of posts. reading about how at his lowest he regularly seeked out the sanctity of his bed as it's the only place he felt safe or how a single bad thing in a day could completely unravel him or that the idea of suicide sometimes calms him as at least it's a way out, things i feel constantly, was a source of great comfort. also, and while it's a bit silly, knowing that i was dealing with the same things as a highly successful millionaire athlete is quite soothing.

the main things however is that the book details how he got better, it takes you through him suffering a first bout of depression in his early twenties and then recovering and living a very happy, productive life in the nine years before it returned. you can take this both ways as a positive example or a testament to the hopelessness of the illness, but as someone who has been feeling like this for so long the idea of getting better through help and becoming the person i want to be seems almost inconceivable, yet having it laid out as a thing that can happen so honestly gives me more hope than i've ever had. as did the way his closest friends and family didn't abandon him like i always fear my friends and family will when they realize what a disaster i am, but stuck with him even when he was barely functioning, though it's a little harder for me to buy into this one as the biography is about someone who is far more worthy than me, it still made me think more positively about the situation.
 
Hello again depression GAF,

I have been out of the loop for a while job search and all that.

Long story short I got a letter of intent for a job offer - *happy dance*

But they ask specifically on the reference document if I have suffered from anxiety or depression. Job is a high stress one I imagine in financial services. Good idea to disclose the illness or not?
 

MoGamesXNA

Unconfirmed Member
Hello again depression GAF,

I have been out of the loop for a while job search and all that.

Long story short I got a letter of intent for a job offer - *happy dance*

But they ask specifically on the reference document if I have suffered from anxiety or depression. Job is a high stress one I imagine in financial services. Good idea to disclose the illness or not?

Congratulations on the job offer. Great stuff. Personally, I'd omit to mention any anxiety or depression issues. If these become an issue during your period of employment, you could always bring them up with HR then.
 

Nezumi

Member
I have to say that at moment I'm actually feeling good. But I'm afraid, what if something goes wrong. What if a little thing throws me of the track and I fall back into old patterns...
 

BadTaste

Member
@ 3 weeks on Fluoxetine now, actually feeling pretty good. Since the 30th I've been exercising, and eating a lot more along with a protein shake everyday.

I still get bored shitless through the day and evening when I've nothing else to do, and that's when some nasty thoughts ensue.

The medication has helped big time, I think I'm still yet to experience the full benefit of it though. I have a months worth of Fluoxetine capsules left.

I have to say that at moment I'm actually feeling good. But I'm afraid, what if something goes wrong. What if a little thing throws me of the track and I fall back into old patterns...

Are you on any medication? I know AD's aren't for everybody, and perhaps a specific medication does absolutely nothing for a person.

After taking my AD's for the past 3 weeks I've felt less worrisome and to be honest... quite happy.
 

Wilsongt

Member
@Prax,

I'm a dirty American, so I won't get the game until Monday or later. ;.; I want it so bad and FE12 isn't holding me over.

Also... Feeling lonely. It's a feeling that sort of sits on your chest. I like being alone, that is perfectly fine. What I hate is feeling lonely. You feel like you've lost some part of yourself. It's when you want to be near someone, but you don't have anymore to be near; like you need a hug and there is no one to hug you.

It's when you have to comfort yourself because other people don't have the time/ability to comfort you.

You can feel lonely even around other people. Not because you stick out necessarily, but because you lack deep connections with people.

It's longing for a companion and not having it there. I've had two relationship and a pseudo relationship for the past few years... The relationships were bad for me, but with this pseudo relationship, I feel very lonely because the person sometimes can't physically be there or even be emotionally available, so it is up to myself to provide myself with that comfort.

The problem is, I never learned how to comfort myself. I never had that training. You would think being alone for so long I would learn to comfort myself, but it is difficult, so I generally just turn to alcohol and get drunk so I can go to sleep.

Depression combined with loneliness is terrible, because not only do I feel lonely at particular points, but my depression causes me to think that that loneliness will be permanent and that it is my destiny to just be alone for the rest of my life.

I have a pet, but sometimes that doesn't help.

And I really hate people say "Well, you just gotta pull yourself out of it and go on."

My own grandmother who suffers from depression told me that last night. Random people I talk to alone tell me that I just need to perk up and deal with it.

No, I don't. I spent my life hiding my depression from family and friends and played the "perk up" card. I'm tired of "perking up" for people...
 

Fantasmo

Member
No friends here. Used to pissed me off, but doesn't anymore. I use that time to get to know myself, learn for my career, planning on starting a second one, getting in shape slowly but surely, and just plain relaxing. No friends are better than friends who you can't connect well with or have little in common with.

And since I'm not where I want to be physically financially or mentally why force it? When I get there Ill hit the ground running. I'm fun to be around so once I'm more fit Ill be more attractive by default and once I'm financially where I want to be I can have women over and have a cool place to be in.

I used to get depressed but its just a waste of time to linger on that. I'm using my time wisely to get where I feel good about myself. Once that's there, I can get out there and make a good impression.
 
And I really hate people say "Well, you just gotta pull yourself out of it and go on."

My own grandmother who suffers from depression told me that last night. Random people I talk to alone tell me that I just need to perk up and deal with it.

No, I don't. I spent my life hiding my depression from family and friends and played the "perk up" card. I'm tired of "perking up" for people...

I'm at the point where I'd tell my own parents to go fuck themselves if they told me to "pull myself together". Life's too short and miserable to let other people make it even more miserable. Anyone who doesn't even try or at least fake some kind of understanding can get lost.
I honestly wouldn't even care if I got disinherited. I'd rather not have to put up with asshole comments and not get any money in 30 years than suck it up and be even more depressed for the next 30 years.

My #1 tip for anyone who has asshole relatives: unless you're very sure that you will inherit a lot of money in less than 10 years from them, it's probably not worth putting up with them if they consistently make your life worse. What good is money you won't even see because you jumped off a building before you could inherit it?
 
Anybody on Zoloft? It takes many, many hours to have an orgasm on this stuff, if it happens at all. Is this temporary, because if not, it's back to the doctor I go to see if there's an alternative. Shame, it works well for me otherwise though, makes it easier to relax during quiet moments without the mind spiraling into negative thoughts.
 
Anybody on Zoloft? It takes many, many hours to have an orgasm on this stuff, if it happens at all. Is this temporary, because if not, it's back to the doctor I go to see if there's an alternative. Shame, it works well for me otherwise though, makes it easier to relax during quiet moments without the mind spiraling into negative thoughts.
Try to add Buspar. It helps with the orgasm problem, at least for me with Luvox + Buspar.
 

Jimothy

Member
It's funny how a lot of depressed people are completely tone deaf when it comes to other people's depression. My mom is the exact same way. Always telling me to just get out and meet people. Go to class and feel about it. You can do it. Um, yeah, I would really like to do those things, but I'm kind of mentally ill. It's almost like people think their case of depression is more special than other people's. Like they have more of a right to be depressed than you, thinking that all you need to do is cowboy up. They're the ones who are really depressed. I'm not saying my mom is alaways like that, but the way she treats me sometimes is really baffling considering the mental shit she's had to deal with.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
I'm completely comfortable with solitude, but I'm really frightened of growing old and being alone then. That's the time to reap the rewards of the love you've sewn throughout your life, and the thought of me in mouldering away in some dark little hovel, ruminating on how anyone who ever loved me is long dead, and then my corpse being thrown in a ditch because there was no one to claim it makes me uncomfortable, even though I probably won't live long enough to be completely alone in the world.

My one true friend I can barely even stand to talk to now because he went from living in squalor with three-inch toenails and nothing but Mountain Dew in the fridge to falling into a six figure job at 23 and getting married to a girl he knew in high school. That kind of attitude makes me a loathsome person, but the success, health, and happiness of others is one of my most severe depression triggers. I have no ego and don't think I'm more deserving of anything than anyone else. It just serves to remind me of what an aberration I am, and I can't handle it.
 

Gui_PT

Member
So do you guys do something to help with the mood? Something that'll prevent you from freaking out or just to chill out a bit?
 

Wilsongt

Member
It's funny how a lot of depressed people are completely tone deaf when it comes to other people's depression. My mom is the exact same way. Always telling me to just get out and meet people. Go to class and feel about it. You can do it. Um, yeah, I would really like to do those things, but I'm kind of mentally ill. It's almost like people think their case of depression is more special than other people's. Like they have more of a right to be depressed than you, thinking that all you need to do is cowboy up. They're the ones who are really depressed. I'm not saying my mom is alaways like that, but the way she treats me sometimes is really baffling considering the mental shit she's had to deal with.

With me when it comes to other people's depression, I always feel like I am the one who doesn't deserve to feel depressed. That my depression isn't anything compared to others and my problems are more insignificant compared to others. I am always thinking "There are people worse off than you. You have no right to be depressed."
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
Anybody on Zoloft? It takes many, many hours to have an orgasm on this stuff, if it happens at all. Is this temporary, because if not, it's back to the doctor I go to see if there's an alternative. Shame, it works well for me otherwise though, makes it easier to relax during quiet moments without the mind spiraling into negative thoughts.


Adding low dose Wellbutrin is a common approach. If you're responding well to Zoloft, that's probably a better initial approach than switching meds. Viagra and related meds are often added as well. That's not actually a treatment for anorgasmia, but it's pretty commonly used, with good results.
 

Fantasmo

Member
A big light bulb moment came to me when I realized how many people came to me for advice, took it, ran with it, and succeeded in whatever it was. Then I never heard from them again.

I asked myself why do I have such a horrible family, why do my friends suck, how did I become a drug addict, how did I become an alcoholic, why me why this why that why do I suck why is everything terrible and why do these shitty people not return the favor, instead they live happy?

Then I had another light bulb moment and realized my negative self talk was killing me. I realized I was my own worst enemy due to a lifetime of verbal abuse. My self hatred was burned into my brain by my father, fake friends, and all the self servers out there.

Then it hit me. I was my own worst enemy.

The single greatest help was when I put the two things together.

I give great advice to others, yet my inner dialogue hates me. So I started asking myself, what would I tell others if I heard these negative things from them.

And that became two more things: I have to ignore the negative self talk asshole, and then ask my helpful self what advice I would give someone else, and then I started to get the answers, and started asking and trusting myself.

And slowly but surely, confidence started to peek through.

Hope this helps someone out there.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
A big light bulb moment came to me when I realized how many people came to me for advice, took it, ran with it, and succeeded in whatever it was. Then I never heard from them again.

I asked myself why do I have such a horrible family, why do my friends suck, how did I become a drug addict, how did I become an alcoholic, why me why this why that why do I suck why is everything terrible and why do these shitty people not return the favor, instead they live happy?

Then I had another light bulb moment and realized my negative self talk was killing me. I realized I was my own worst enemy due to a lifetime of verbal abuse. My self hatred was burned into my brain by my father, fake friends, and all the self servers out there.

Then it hit me. I was my own worst enemy.

The single greatest help was when I put the two things together.

I give great advice to others, yet my inner dialogue hates me. So I started asking myself, what would I tell others if I heard these negative things from them.

And that became two more things: I have to ignore the negative self talk asshole, and then ask my helpful self what advice I would give someone else, and then I started to get the answers, and started asking and trusting myself.

And slowly but surely, confidence started to peek through.


Hope this helps someone out there.

That's a very CBT-way of doing things - analyze your thoughts, identify the ways of thinking that are contributing to your illness, and substitute more helpful thoughts. You're absolutely right - we're usually way better at helping others than we are at helping ourselves.

Glad you're making some progress! Thanks for sharing.
 

Fantasmo

Member
That's a very CBT-way of doing things - analyze your thoughts, identify the ways of thinking that are contributing to your illness, and substitute more helpful thoughts. You're absolutely right - we're usually way better at helping others than we are at helping ourselves.

Glad you're making some progress! Thanks for sharing.

No problem. I'd like to add one more, really weird, thing that I noticed. Honestly, I skipped it on purpose because it's a little embarassing but for the most part I'm past it so I figure why not. This may work for nobody else, and you guys might think I'm crazy, but it helped me, so maybe it'll help someone. Ignore it if you can't relate (lord help me I can't believe I'm posting this lol).

Okay here we go:

Even after noticing all the stuff I mentioned in my previous post, I couldn't get myself to budge because I was so deep in depression... unless I yelled at myself. I noticed another pattern here -- The thing that got me moving really fucking fast all my life, was my asshole father's fucking nasty mouth.

It's not that I was lazy, far from it, it's just that he was the devil incarnate and most of the time I was so mentally drained and depressed that I couldn't get out of my depressive behavior unless I was forced to. Although I have very little to show for my accomplishments, due to self hatred and negative behavior, I've accomplished a lot of shit in my life.

So, in the beginning, positive talk didn't work unless I started off by verbally assaulting myself. As the words came out, they transformed into good advice. If I just had thoughts, they would stay there, forever in circles. But if I yelled it, my body would have a reaction, I wouldn't be depressed, I'd move. It caused me to move and I'd get into what I was saying.

And something twisted about the emotion I was letting out AND good advice that followed, pumped me up to do the right thing. As time went on, the negative start turned into positive, and now it's mostly pump-me-up talk.

Apologies if this all sounds twisted but hey I figure if I'm fucked up someone else might be the same lmao.
 

EdmondD

Member
Depression seems to have a huge impact on making people feel disconnected in general, I think. And the less connected you feel, the more lonely, and then the more depressed. It's like you have to look harder for significance in human connections and convince yourself they count. It's always easier to do when you're with people who share hobbies, interests, passions, and experiences with you though, so at least you are here!

Thanks. Good advice as always. :) I saw you Fire Emblem art in the art thread it's really good.
 

Vox-Pop

Contains Sucralose
My dad pretty much called me a failure today. He also said he was smarter than me. Thanks dad.

I really need to stop caring what people think of me. At work I feel so self-conscious. Yet I doubt people even give me a second look.
 

mooooose

Member
My dad pretty much called me a failure today. He also said he was smarter than me. Thanks dad.

I really need to stop caring what people think of me. At work I feel so self-conscious. Yet I doubt people even give me a second look.

Your dad is a fucking asshole, you're awesome.
 

EdmondD

Member
My dad pretty much called me a failure today. He also said he was smarter than me. Thanks dad.

I really need to stop caring what people think of me. At work I feel so self-conscious. Yet I doubt people even give me a second look.
A father should never say that to his child. Fuck him. Who cares what people think it doesn't mean jack shit. You seem cool to me Vox-Pop.

So do you guys do something to help with the mood? Something that'll prevent you from freaking out or just to chill out a bit?
I like to go for a long walk, exercise, cook, read comics or books, play some games, write, watch a good movie or TV show, spend some time with my niece and nephew.
 

Vox-Pop

Contains Sucralose
Your dad is a fucking asshole, you're awesome.

A father should never say that to his child. Fuck him. Who cares what people think it doesn't mean jack shit. You seem cool to me Vox-Pop.

Too be honest I'm not sure what's going on. In the past few weeks he has been pretty mean. Wish I could move out. but I don't make enough. My sister is going to move out soon, so it's only going to be us two. :/
 

Collete

Member
Everyone's having fun...While I be alone......
Augh.

And therapist hasn't emailed back.....Fridays are awesome ain't it?...
 
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