Depression
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What's CBT? I'm sorry, I am too stupid
ClassyPenguin
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Wait for the prescription to paxil
Currently got back on it myself. Feeling better with only the starter dose of 10mg.
Zoloft increased my depression.
I can't wait for the new gen of better anti-depressants.
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, one of the most researched and recognised talking therapies for depression:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioural_therapy
Thanks! Sounds very interesting and useful, but too bad it needs medication so it can work well
I don't think that's true. I've done a Diploma in Psychotherapy that had a LOT of CBT in it and I've never heard that most therapists would recognise it needed medication as well. You can do both together, but it's recognised to be very effective on its own too.
ClassyPenguin
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CornBurrito
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The whole point is that it treats depression as both a biological disorder caused by imbalance of neurotransmitters, and a cognitive problem caused by self-destructive thought processes. You need to fix both to get over depression, and the easiest way to fix the biological aspect is with drugs. The cognitive aspect is really the hard part to deal with.
Not to say that other therapies can't work, or that drugs are always needed for the CBT approach. But the CBT approach is likely the most effective and grounded in science.
You could probably research drug-less CBT programs though. There's got to be some natural stuff you can do to effect levels of neurotransmitters.
BlueSummers
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I always trick myself into believing some artifical change will make me feel better. I thought maybe once it warms up and is nice out again I will want to do all these outdoor activties and get back to working out but it never happens 
CornBurrito
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I always trick myself into believing some artifical change will make me feel better. I thought maybe once it warms up and is nice out again I will want to do all these outdoor activties and get back to working out but it never happens
You may need to force yourself to do those things, if possible.
This comparison might be a little crude, but games on Steam go on sale often. I used to buy games at low prices saying that I'd eventually get to playing them. I probably have so many games I bought and then never touched. You're basically falling into that same trap.
It's different for everyone. I took Zoloft for 3 years (100mg daily) and it did help with my depression and anxiety with no side effects. It wasn't enough though and near the end it didn't do anything at all anymore.
Now I've been off meds for a year and it's been a living hell. Not much worse than the last year I was on Zoloft though.
I know what you're talking about. The only way I could imagine killing myself though is with a gun. Any other way is just too scary.
Btw I've been wondering for a while: does severe depression for a prolonged time increase the chances of getting a brain tumor?
This. Killing myself would be hurtful either way and it scares me a lot. Dying surprisingly and quickly would be good for me
I wish I was an American so I could get one and just end it. I'm not though. Even if I'm scared at the moment, I'd just force myself to close my eyes and do it. And hope it succeeds. There's no hope for me anymore.
I imagine myself going to some dangerous neighborhood and being able to find a fun easily. I'd risk getting shot, but then I wouldn't have to do it myself anymore, lol.
I just wish I was never born. If I never was, I wouldn't have to go through this.
CornBurrito
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I'd contact a suicide hotline, if one exists in your country.
No point. All they'd do is make me go to the hospital and get checked in. It won't do anything for me.
What are your main problems and what interests do you have?
I have problems with everything. Interested in nothing anymore. I just kill all my time on GAF/the internet. I'm a waste.
Have you ever thought you have a wasted potential? What would it be?
Nope. I'm confident in saying that I don't have potential to do/be anything. I'm pathetic. I'll stop clogging the thread up now.
Come on now, everyone has potential. Your depression is just keeping you from achieving anything.
In my case, I think I would be an amazing musician if I devoted myself to it but I don't have the motivation to play because of my depression so now I can't play shit. Maybe it's not true, but it keeps me from killing myself.
There should be something you think you'd be better at than most people who do the same if you put a lot of time into it.
No, go to the gym so you can lose weight faster. Do it
I'll go tomorrow since i leave early tomorrow.
I know when I have a hard time getting myself to work out, I prep my gym bag the night before (leave it at the front door, out it in the car, whatever) so I can't talk myself out of it later on.
Collete
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Guys, just a reminder, submissions for Depression GAF anthology thing is due tomorrow (4/12), remember to send submissions to bagelsbirthday@yahoo.com . Don't try to feel bad that what ever you want to submit sucks or any of that crap if that's your reason not submitting anything yet. Chances are it ain't and it'll be ten times better than anything I submitted. So get crackin'.
Yey! Rooting for ya!
Yey! Rooting for ya!
CornBurrito
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Make sure you actually do it tomorrow. Don't fall into the tomorrow trap where tomorrow never comes.
There's always something you could do. I hope this doesn't come off as harsh since I don't mean it that way, but if you have nothing you want to live for maybe you could live for others? Find opportunities to volunteer your time, and eventually work for a non-profit? Become someone who aids with disaster relief? Become a monk?
yeah this has been my problem, there doesnt seem to be a way to fix it. Ive sometimes been able to really distract myself and not think about it.
trab pu kcip
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ugh I hate this. I think I know exactly what you mean, the closest I ever came to describing it was like feeling constantly homesick even though you're at home. just so weird and unsettling + out of the blue.
For me, I file that sort of feeling as a type of anxiety/nervousness.
Is that book one of those that say we should accept being fat ugly and stupid?
Ugh if I found a gun in the street I would shoot myself in the head. I doubt I will lose any weight and forever be this person I hate.
Collete
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There are people that help each other in this thread still...I used to be apart of that but I've hit rock bottom lately that I can barely help anyone if at all. The fact of the matter is the people that help here are also with illnesses and dealing with their own business; at times it can be overwhelming, so help might not be frequent. Try to be apart of that help to others if you feel strongly about this though.
I have to cram for four finals next week, one of which is a course I didn't go to all semester for stupid reasons. Gimme a break... Then I'll be back trying to help... Like oomi said, it's not like we all don't have our own struggles :/ I'm still available on steam and sometimes in chat, which people have used to reach me, too. I'm just less able to reach out myself these days, due to stress & my general situation.
ClassyPenguin
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Well, start as an example because that post in of itself is just as you describe.
I hate when people say things will get better when they don't or problems are solvable death is permenant. I rather just choose death. Going to the gym isn't going to help at all. If there is anything good in this world let me die in my sleep tonight. I really wish I was never born. My parents were selfish assholes to bring any kid in this world. If you already have bad genes why make kids with the same bad genes to ruin their life.
CornBurrito
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I'm guessing no. It is a book that will help you control these toxic thoughts and get rid of them.
Things move in waves around here. The thread exists for two main purposes, I think - for people to offer help and advice, and for people to just vent a bit about what's getting them down. The former is much harder than the latter, obviously. As oomi said, a lot of our regulars are dealing with other things right now, so the venting has come to dominate.
For better or for worse, the more up-beat or helpful or whatever stuff has been kind of offloaded to chat, PM, skype, steam, etc. The closer some of us have gotten, the more likely we've become to talk outside of this thread. Many things are too personal for this venue (that line is different for all of us), or some of the silly stuff we talk about to lift our moods just would not work in this thread, or we like to have more conversational interactions...the thread has a definite place in all of this, but I've personally kind of been neglecting it. I feel bad about that, as things do tend to just get really negative if people don't make the effort to nudge the discourse into a more positive direction. It takes UNBELIEVABLE work, though, and I just have not been up to the challenge lately. I've thought about it, and I want to get back into it. I can't promise it will be today, but it'll happen.
There are a LOT of people, on GAF and not, who read every post in here. Your writing is not wasted or ignored, even if it feels a bit like it. I get messages every day about things people say in here, posts get discussed, things get discussed and then posted. The thread does not represent anywhere close to everything that's going on in our community, but it's still the anchor for the whole thing. It can and should be as good as it can possibly be. But as oomi said, if you want it to be better, start by trying to post the kinds of things you'd like to read.
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