Would love to see PL just go away, honestly. Don't see the point of it.
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Destiny 2 |OT3| The Token King
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Would love to see PL just go away, honestly. Don't see the point of it.
MandrakeUK
Member
nevermind
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Mostly pointless chase designed to artificially extend the gameplay.
It's a carrot to chase for most cases.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
On Titan wanting to do public events.
heh
Its not like I'm only waiting for one piece on my titan like I am for my hunter, still need 305 chest gauntlets and legs for the titan so thought I'd be sure to get some upgrade along the way working through the milestones but nope lol
Its the only reason why I'm still playing, it's little but it's some incentive to play. Plus I want 305 for the cycling PL 300 items from the vendors to infuse with some weaponry.
MandrakeUK
Member
I tried but it didnt transfer the checkpoint
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Prestige raid is only cosmetic, right?
To be honest, I kind of like that. It means you do it for the glory and not because you NEED to hit that next level of power. That was the frustrating part about WoW when I played...For example, I never had a chance to do Algalon when it was relevant content. I did a bunch of Ulduar, but never did the heroic encounters because I wasn't "in" with the core group of buddies. So when they wanted to make a run at heroics, it was the select group only.
If you put an extra hard piece of content in the game that can reward you with the "best possible gear", it's enticing to the hardcore but frustrating to the rest of the playerbase. What solutions exists that doesn't create a divide? I'm sure many of us have played enough MMO's to know that this is not an easy problem to fix.
The side game I play in between milestone resets is trying to deck out my armor with mods that I wanna infuse powerful gear into. If the mods system worked better and wasn't just another slot machine, that would be great.
EL CUCO
Member
👀I have one, and I accept paypal
I don't think having a "divide" is a problem. I'd say one of the biggest issues with the end game right now is the fact there isn't a divide. This game is basically Destiny: participation trophy edition... It's perfectly fine to reward people for completing and doing the hardest content in the game with some exclusive and cool stuff... We'll just have to agree to disagree there if you feel the opposite.
But anyway the solution at the moment to eliminate this divide you speak of would be the same as the current solution regarding normal raid+trials gear... Clan engrams.
Also to be clear no where did I mention that this new loot had to "increase power" or be "required" because it's best in slot and that you'd NEED it... It simply could be worth chasing because it's fun to use and unique...
bobs...onGaf
Member
The only reason I want to do the prestige raid is to finally finish off that arceus shotgun quest and free up a space in my heavy inventory
I wish there was a quest logbook as opposed to odd quest items
I wish there was a quest logbook as opposed to odd quest items
I need to do prestige NF as well, so shoot me a message if you want to run it.
GuitarAtomik
Member
On Titan wanting to do public events.
Seriously. I wonder if they meant to add a public event and patrols in the Arcology and didn't have enough time to. Such a huge area of the map unused on an already comparatively small map.
Cornbread78
Member
On Titan wanting to do public events.
That's me looking at a clan roster that used to have 30-40 playing throughout the day at any point to already down to 10-20 on the weekends.....
I think they purposefully left large portions of Io and Titan open for future expansions. I would wager a good amount of money that the expansion takes place on one of those...
Raven117
Member
I don't know why people are surprised by this. With the way D2 was designed, there was no way it was going to be anything but cosmetic and bragging rights.
You what also is a missed opportunity? The mid/hard content.
As it stands, most of the content in the game is easy enough. No real challenge. Then you get hit with a nightfall and raid. Nightfall (not knowing the mechanics) and raid (same) can take hours upon hours. And moreover, do it once for the week, and done.
There is no "mid/hard" content like heroic strikes in D1. Something that is just hard enough to demand your attention, but not hard enough where you need mics and all that Jazz.
D1 as "light" on content as it was. Still had something for everyone. Dailies for the casual. Heroic, weekly, nightfall for the mid-hard crowd. Raids for the hardcore.
Of course; the way that disincentived even normal strikes is baffling. Why not a "complete 5 for the week for a powerful engram?)"
Anyway..: just one more tick on the belt of how D2 missed the mark on replayability. It's still fantastic. And loads of fun....just doesn't have a "cruise mode" to move the ball in the down times.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
It's the same everywhere.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
On Titan wanting to do public events.
Yo, your arms are dope. How did you get them?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I'm a bit surprised they didn't add any heroic variants to the strike playlist, but I have to imagine it's coming.
The argument always goes "The game just launched, so it's gong to have to build up content" with people saying "But Destiny 1 had SO MUCH STUFF!" Except at launch, it kind of didn't? Time will always tell with shit like this. I'm sure they'll get it figured out. Until then, I can only imagine people will wax and wane like they did with Destiny 1.
CrudeDiatribe
Member
Totally agree with your points but there was a slight bonus from using a weapon that was over leveled, but it maxed out really quickly. Recall that when the Taken Spring update increased max light to 335 it became possible to one-shot the light-eater knights with more sniper rifle archetypes than you could when it was 320.
My feeling (without testing) is this doesn't exist at all in D2 and grinding it to increase your PL for no real purpose feels like a way to make you hate the game, and I'm a little irritated that it isn't better communicated in-game the purpose of PL.
The majors that spawn in the Flashpoint zones were way higher than the rest of the bad guys and really fucked up my alt.
Looks like Road Complex AA1. Hard to farm since it's just a random drop from anywhere.
looks like swordflight gauntlets (crucible set iirc) or road complex
sturgboski
Member
If there was a book people might feel they were forced to complete it, like the grimoire and tracking books added with SRL and beyond. With items you can just delete the item if you have no interest. No artificial pressure, push or drive.
IB and prestige raid have been good examples of what is wrong here. The fact that prestige raid drops cosmetics is whatever but the fact that it's the same shit loot structure of normal to the point of being rewarded tokens for normal raid loot rather than prestige armor is downright silly. And IB with it's effort for duplicates was huge as well. And before the "it's RNG isn't that what you want" crowd pops in, at least in D1 there was a chance that the same gear had a new an interesting roll. What am I supposed to do with 4/5 instances of the IB GL, put a different shader on each? If each roll was different then who knows what could have come from that (maybe one could have been a useful GL which is extremely rare).
The exotics dropping at 299 when you are 304 is a crazy design choice.
Cornbread78
Member
So isn't charging 5k glimmer just to add a mod....
"Let me try out a bunch of mods to modify my playstyle"
"Oh I can't modify my playstyle anymore because I've run out of cash money"
:/
Cornbread78
Member
It's just flies in the face with their philosophy to make the game easier to manage as a casual. Sure you can level up quicker and stay up with everyone, but when you get higher in the ranks, it just leads to more grinding for cash..... I'll get to 305 in another month or so, lol.
Ha.. Yep. I hit the 99,999 cap again last night (and I'd already bought cayde's trash maps) so I spent 15,000 on a shader for my ship.
Then I turned off the game.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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4 hour maintenance starts soon...
xChildOfHatex
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It's the Road Complex AA1 armour. I have the entire set and it looks pretty cool. As a bonus, it's a recovery armour set. However, there is no vendor who will specifically drop it. I got my set from random engrams and vendor level ups.
Exactly. I appreciate that the grind to 305 is fast and quick and accessible to anyone really with enough time. But when you get there, if the game is about experimentation and speccing out armor and builds and playing content:
1. The grind to experiment is not fun.
2. The experimentation itself is limited.
3. There isn't enough non-Nightfall/Raid but still challenging activities for PvE.
Hence, there isn't particularly a casual way to showcase your power when you reach PvE. Where is my PoE-type event? Where are my CoO type events? Other forms of repeatable content?
Destiny 2 will get there but as of right now, the grind once you get to 305 and the gameplay experience is predacated on the player just playing the game for fun. Which I am alright with because I have the flexibility to do what I want/play other games. However, from a player retention standpoint? No bueno.
Lol. I'm in the EXACT same boat. How many packages did you open?
Valthael
Neo Member
Preach.
xChildOfHatex
Member
This happened to me only once. Aren't exotics supposed to drop at a level higher than your PL? Or is it just a heavy bias in favour of higher PL?
Teasing_Pink
Member
Did I miss the boat on that Calus checkpoint, or is it still available?I have one, and I accept paypal
When you get around 300, it changes. At 304, you can no longer use exotics as a way to increase PL
And also if there were fixed rewards to get. Bungie needs to figure out a system that will make getting duplicates make sense because the fact that token rewards (if they are not 300 PL) and legendary engrams stop being useful at all is ridiculous. Takes any excitement out of seeing loot drop. Doesn't matter if they drop more often if they are completely useless.
And the REAL salt storm begins.... If people still visited this thread.