Destiny 2: The Edge of Fate expansion launched today, maybe should have been named Destiny 2: The Edge of Flop

Not the final word by any account but looks like it may have already peaked on SteamDB, either way it isn't looking good versus last year, may not get to 1/3rd of Destiny 2: The Final Shape launch day numbers which was over 314k.

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Sony needs to bring back the Walkman or something to cover for this Activision FOMO. I know how it is. Sometimes I'll get to thinking on lunch and kick myself for ordering a $1,200 folding knife during my morning shit. These things happen. I get it. Herman just has much greater purchasing power when he makes those weak, misguided early morning purchases. The difference is, I don't employ a staff of adults whose job it is to talk me out of dumb stuff like this. Hell they might even be in the chain on having to sign off on it. That's who failed here if you ask me.
 
You can't compare this to The Final Shape. Most people used that as a jumping off point.

Bungie has a lot to do to get people back on board here and, by the sounds of it, they're dropping the ball still.

The director finally admitted that new player experience and onboarding sucks, so at least they're aware of the biggest pain point in their game.
 
It just depends on what they expect honestly. If they know its winding down they can string these people along for another decade in small numbers like FFXI. If it needed to be a huge blockbuster, disappointing I guess but I kinda doubt they didn't know. I think it really rests on Marathon at this point. Even on that, I actually think it will be fine.

Bungie truly bombing out seems like an impossibility to me personally.
 
You can't compare this to The Final Shape. Most people used that as a jumping off point.

Bungie has a lot to do to get people back on board here and, by the sounds of it, they're dropping the ball still.

The director finally admitted that new player experience and onboarding sucks, so at least they're aware of the biggest pain point in their game.
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You can compare it against any other main expansion then in the previous 7 years. It doesn't make it look any better. Yeah, the light and dark saga ended with Final Shape which took the longest of any expansion to make, but they didn't do much to set up the next round afterwards. They burned through their goodwill for years, now its on life support, lets not forget that they are showing free to play promo of all old content up through the final shape for the next week which is giving it a boost as well on the player count right now.
 
You can compare it against any other main expansion then in the previous 7 years.
What I meant is this was never going to do Final Shape, Lightfall, or Witch Queen numbers for all the reason you listed above. But with TFS specifically, it was the end of a very long storyline so a lot of people came back for it. And even then it barely moved the needle.

Destiny, like FF14, needs a reboot. But neither Sony/Bungie nor Square are willing to take the risk.
 
Seems about right if you ask me. Off year expansion made by the B team after the main saga is done.

Seems like it'll have a CCU across all platforms of at least 300k? Hardly what it used to get but a CCU most games would rip your hand off for.

Have to say better than i was expecting tbh.
 
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Basically, it's the same crowd that has always been playin' it with no influx of fresh blood.
There isnt any paid Live service games around that gain players year on year for ten years straight.

We all know this game hit its high a while ago, the only way was down from TFS without a full reboot D3
 
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I just don't think anything less than a complete revamp of the game is going to satisfy. Whether that is making wild alterations to Destiny 2 or just making Destiny 3. Everyone in my circle, even the ones who played Destiny a lot, can't seem to care for anything they're showing. Paraphrasing from a friend a conversation we had months ago, "I want space combat. I want big, epic battles. I want tighter storylines with more immersive moments. Everything just feels half-assed and grindy. Like the only thing they know how to do is dangle loot in your face. And they can't ever seem to not piss people off with it".
 
My two friends who are still die-hard fans of Destiny ended up canceling their pre-orders.

They agree that the final shape is where it shouldve ended.

Honestly if they really needed to continue, they shouldve just gone with destiny 3, wipe the slate clean
 
I just don't think anything less than a complete revamp of the game is going to satisfy. Whether that is making wild alterations to Destiny 2 or just making Destiny 3. Everyone in my circle, even the ones who played Destiny a lot, can't seem to care for anything they're showing. Paraphrasing from a friend a conversation we had months ago, "I want space combat. I want big, epic battles. I want tighter storylines with more immersive moments. Everything just feels half-assed and grindy. Like the only thing they know how to do is dangle loot in your face. And they can't ever seem to not piss people off with it".
They can't do any of that while continuing PS4 support. Starting this new storyline and it's still not ps5 only makes me think it could be another 3 or 4 years before they finally move onto ps5/6 and we get a generational jump to the games design.
 
Seems it might be a bit too early, the patch for this update was 100GB, people have been complaining about it so there's probably a large number of player still unable to play.
 
There isnt any paid Live service games around that gain players year on year for ten years straight.
Warframe does a good job for it's 12 year existance. According to Steve (CEO) and Reb (GAME DIRECTOR), this year has been it's best year to date. Then again, they still improve the beginning of the game every update for the new player experience, and don't delete large chunks of the game cause they 'can't cope'. Something Destiny fails to do.
 
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Maybe they shouldn't have removed the first 3 campaigns then, those were a million times better at introducing the game than this New Light hack job
 
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My beloved Destiny, transformed to a sellout, a soulless shitstain by the Clowns at todays Bungo. I wish you soon will have peace and be remembered for what you once was. Capcom is doing the same with Monster hunter right now, hope they understand the consequenses of it.
 
Destiny just feels so old at this point. The enemy types are roughly the same as in the first game, and that was ten years ago, and the MMO-lite design, which is all about forcing you to do the same content over and over again for hours and hours and hours just feels like a relic from the past. They can do whatever they like to the 'new player experience', it doesn't change the fact that so much of Destiny is 'go here and shoot 100 of these guys and hope they drop 50 Magic Shards', then turn them in for some piece of crap that adds nothing to your game.
 
After watching some today, its just the same ol crap. All the dlcs are made structurally the same. Bungie has been rinse and repeat for years now

I've played this Destiny 10 years ago. Its all stale
 
Can't really compare to previous expansions honestly, its sort of a new start. But from what little I've played, its better than what I expected. The changes they made to gear spices things up a bit so I'm looking forward to spend more time on this.
 
I quit D2 in May of 23 and it was the best decision ever. I would've played that game for another 10 years If bungie cared about it as much as I did, but after 6 7k hours or so and when they put it on autopilot that was it. I've had so much fun gaming since I quit

Hearing that the trials reward is not given upon a trials run, you complete your trials run and can buy it hahaha fuck off bungie
 
Can I ask. What exactly was the story in the end. The so called darkness that they made up as they went along that causes the traveller to go to earth. I played d2 at launch. So know chaos marine wanted to absorb It.
Ha. It's convoluted. It really was more of an end to certain character arcs than it was some over arching amazing story.
 
The director finally admitted that new player experience and onboarding sucks, so at least they're aware of the biggest pain point in their game.
I'll finally hop in once they fix this. It's the biggest flaw of Destiny 2 and most Destiny-likes that came after it. Throwing tons of different systems, currencies, and features at you with very little explanation and intuitiveness to the point where a ton of research is needed to get started.

I get that it's somewhat done on purpose to keep someone in the game, but at the same time it alienates any casual player who doesn't want to commit that hard and it also alienates the returning players who just want to try out new content.

It's a terrible design choice that carried over from 2000s MMOs that used to do the same thing.
 
Why would I cope for destiny? Are you ok?
I'm not tracking everyone's motivations, but Destiny threads bring out the weirdos. Bungo is ground zero for console warriors, so there's potential cope factor there... and then there are the Destiny bootlickers, and there's always cope there no matter the state of the game.
It's simply a fact that the "patch" was a redownload of the entire thing at 100+GB, so it's not unthinkable the numbers could still go up.
Well here's the updated chart, and sure enough it was basically at its peak and now it's a-sinkin', so I guess your theory didn't pan out. Unless you think it's going to chart higher on day 2...
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I love Destiny 2 and it sits alongside WoW as my favourite game of all time.

But there's no chance I'm coming back. I'm done. Played it too much. The loop is beyond stale.
 
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