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[panda-zebra]

I do know there is an memory issuse since the game is cross generations. If it's an memory issue that's cauing the limited vault space then PS3 and Xbox 360 is the technical bottleneck and preventing an increase.

Deffo. I've always been of the opinion that Destiny existing on ps360 and retaining content parity is likely a large part of why we're stuck with so many issues with the game. They had no crystal ball to foresee the delay to release or the rapid jump to current gen systems, so it is what it is.

 

[Kor of Memory]

I recommend everyone listens to the pre-Destiny podcast. The person responsible for player investment is on there and talks about things we really didn't get. One prime example is he didn't people to do pointless grinding.

This isn't surprising. Every project Bungie has ever worked on, they've always bit off more than they can chew. We're just lucky that they've got amazing jaw muscles, so what gets through is still enough to make a great game.

 

[moris]

Do you have a link to this?



Thanks man, and it's cool if you only need to do 2.



Ha yea sounds good. And no worries if you find a group earlier, I think I'm going to focus on knocking out NF early in the morning then I have a coffee chat with an previous supervisor.





Updated Crota End 3x Tuesday 3PM EST list.

1. Darryl_M_R, Level 32 Hunter (3)
2. NoThru22 (PSN: Macello) 32 Hunter, 31 Titan, 31 Warlock
3. grimlock33, 31 Hunter, 31 Titan, 31 Warlock [maybe]
4. moris (PSN: ms1582) 31 Hunter, 32 Titan, 31 Warlock
5. Open
6. Open

Looking for experience raiders so we can knock this out fast

I'll join if still available.

 

[Darryl M R]

I'll join if still available.

Sure, what's your PSN name and what level are your characters?

 

[Coconut]

It takes about 8 hours in-game. That's pretty quick, if you ask me.

Ha! Yeah, that is easily the worst part.

If you ask me it should be 5 hours or something to run a second character they should give you some type of consumable that increases XP gain for a second character. 8 hours is a lot of time for a person who has seen the end game and just wants some kinda work horse material donkey character.

 

[grimlock33]

Do you have a link to this?



Thanks man, and it's cool if you only need to do 2.



Ha yea sounds good. And no worries if you find a group earlier, I think I'm going to focus on knocking out NF early in the morning then I have a coffee chat with an previous supervisor.





Updated Crota End 3x Tuesday 3PM EST list.

1. Darryl_M_R, Level 32 Hunter (3)
2. NoThru22 (PSN: Macello) 32 Hunter, 31 Titan, 31 Warlock
3. grimlock33, 31 Hunter, 31 Titan, 32 Warlock [maybe]
4. Open
5. Open
6. Open

Looking for experience raiders so we can knock this out fast

Cool beans, and if you need help with NF and Weeklies I'll probably look to do those early as well.

 

[moris]

Sure, what's your PSN name and what level are your characters?

Added myself to the list in that last post... I'm already in your FL.

 

[boofa]

Probably discussed many times but these threads move way faster than I can keep up with. What is the consensus on CE hard mode and the level cap? Meaning, since the current lvl is listed as 30, but when you get to Crota everything is 32. With the hard mode set at lvl 33, is that going to mean everything starts at 33 and its 35 by the time you hit Crota, or will it just introduce new mechanics/more majors and shields and max out at lvl 33 enemies at Crota?

 

[LiK]

This isn't surprising. Every project Bungie has ever worked on, they've always bit off more than they can chew. We're just lucky that they've got amazing jaw muscles, so what gets through is still enough to make a great game.

I still remember that they admitted Halo 2 didn't have an ending cuz they simply ran outta time after scrapping the project a few times, lol

 

[Squall ASF]

Probably discussed many times but these threads move way faster than I can keep up with. What is the consensus on CE hard mode and the level cap? Meaning, since the current lvl is listed as 30, but when you get to Crota everything is 32. With the hard mode set at lvl 33, is that going to mean everything starts at 33 and its 35 by the time you hit Crota, or will it just introduce new mechanics/more majors and shields and max out at lvl 33 enemies at Crota?

Going off of how VoG went, should be the latter.

 

[Darryl M R]

Cool beans, and if you need help with NF and Weeklies I'll probably look to do those early as well.

Yea if we see each other on I'm down for running it with you man. Any clue what this week burns and strike for NF and Weekly? People accurate said that this week would be no burn on Mars. I have no clue how they knew 12 hours before.

If you ask me it should be 5 hours or something to run a second character they should give you some type of consumable that increases XP gain for a second character. 8 hours is a lot of time for a person who has seen the end game and just wants some kinda work horse material donkey character.

I completely agree. I know there are certain benefits you get with grimoire points but I don't think they really help speed up the leveling of a new character. I don't want to spend an entire day leveling up a new toon. The storymode makes me want to play with stones.

Added myself to the list in that last post... I'm already in your FL.

lol I only know you as ms in game, I didn't know you were on gaf. For some reason I thought you were just friends of gaffers. Almost like Miles, I have no clue how I met Miles but he's always dropping in parties saying hi and being friendly lol.

 

[E92 M3]

This isn't surprising. Every project Bungie has ever worked on, they've always bit off more than they can chew. We're just lucky that they've got amazing jaw muscles, so what gets through is still enough to make a great game.

Gunplay really holds everything together at the end of the day.

Probably discussed many times but these threads move way faster than I can keep up with. What is the consensus on CE hard mode and the level cap? Meaning, since the current lvl is listed as 30, but when you get to Crota everything is 32. With the hard mode set at lvl 33, is that going to mean everything starts at 33 and its 35 by the time you hit Crota, or will it just introduce new mechanics/more majors and shields and max out at lvl 33 enemies at Crota?

Hard enemies will stay at a consistent 33 through the whole raid. Having a 2 level differential will be less about challenge and more frustration.

 

[Ourobolus]

Anyone have the Gorgon CP I can snag?

PSN: Ourobolus

 

[mattxt08]

I know I'm posting in advance but is anyone willing to take me on a crota's boss fight run tonight? I have yet to even attempt to fight him and only have checkpoints after the shrieker hallway. On ps4 after 4 30 est.

 

[Squall ASF]

Anyone have the Gorgon CP I can snag?

PSN: Ourobolus

Let me know if you don't find one by the end of the day. I have it on a character but am at work.

 

[Auto_aim1]

I rage quit Destiny PvP for the first time lol. Some guy with a Thorn was wrecking us. Jesus.

 

[Kor of Memory]

I still remember that they admitted Halo 2 didn't have an ending cuz they simply ran outta time after scrapping the project a few times, lol

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the entirety of Halo 3 was supposed to be the "ending" to Halo 2.

 

[The Lamonster]

I rage quit Destiny PvP for the first time lol. Some guy with a Thorn was wrecking us. Jesus.

that was the match you were going to get an exotic reward for

 

[Ourobolus]

Let me know if you don't find one by the end of the day. I have it on a character but am at work.

Thanks man. I'll keep asking until then.

 

[commish]

Anyone have the Gorgon CP I can snag?

PSN: Ourobolus

You'll probably get it sooner, but I'll open up the checkpoint for whoever wants it later today.

 

[boofa]

Going off of how VoG went, should be the latter.

That's what I'm hoping for and assumed as well, just paranoid that Bungie is upset about all of the cheese and would torture us for it, lol

 

[commish]

Probably discussed many times but these threads move way faster than I can keep up with. What is the consensus on CE hard mode and the level cap? Meaning, since the current lvl is listed as 30, but when you get to Crota everything is 32. With the hard mode set at lvl 33, is that going to mean everything starts at 33 and its 35 by the time you hit Crota, or will it just introduce new mechanics/more majors and shields and max out at lvl 33 enemies at Crota?

No one knows for sure, but I think it'll be level 33 enemies. Level 34 would be pretty rough, and 35 would be nearly impossible.

 

[scarletham]

I rage quit Destiny PvP for the first time lol. Some guy with a Thorn was wrecking us. Jesus.

Welcome to the club

In other news, can we pretty safely assume that 32 will be a necessity for HM CE?

 

[LTWood12]

Ran Atheon last night on Hard (hadn't run normal this week) and only got the timebreaker and some energy. Same for everyone else in the party. Everyone got one material drop and either the ship or sparrow. None of my inventory slots were full. I would assume I should have something at the postmaster, but the website doesn't show anything.

One person went to the tower and had the raid chest armor, corrective measure, and a truth waiting for him at the postmaster. Bungie.net doesn't show anything for me, but I'm not sure that's always accurate. Any experience w/ this? I'm at work, otherwise I'd just boot the game up.

 

[Darryl M R]

I rage quit Destiny PvP for the first time lol. Some guy with a Thorn was wrecking us. Jesus.

I swear the Thorn is OP. It wouldn't be as bad if my screen didn't turn green and shake so much. . probably going to be the next exotic I save up bounties to level it up if Ballerhorn doesn't drop for me.

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Updated Crota End 3x Tuesday 3PM EST list.

1. Darryl_M_R, Level 32 Hunter (3)
2. NoThru22 (PSN: Macello) 32 Hunter, 31 Titan, 31 Warlock
3. grimlock33, 31 Hunter, 31 Titan, 31 Warlock [maybe]
4. moris (PSN: ms1582) 31 Hunter, 32 Titan, 31 Warlock
5. Open
6. Open

Looking for experience raiders so we can knock this out fast

 

[Kor of Memory]

Welcome to the club

In other news, can we pretty safely assume that 32 will be a necessity for HM CE?

Not necessary, but preferred, I'm sure.

Chances are you'll see groups with 1 or 2 31s in there with 32s filling out the bulk.

Just like how Hard VoG would let a couple of 29s slip through.

 

[grimlock33]

Anyone have the Gorgon CP I can snag?

PSN: Ourobolus

I've got the HM Gorgon CP

 

[Major Williams]

Even if that's the case, it's STILL poorly designed. Why not allow us one giant vault instead of breaking it apart into different sections? My armor vault is nearly empty while my weapon vault is maxed. Why can't I just use the 100 or whatever spaces for whatever I want?



Yeah, the PS3/360 bottleneck is brutal. I can't say I blame them for including the PS3/360, but it really does limit things.

Does anyone remember how many games were going to be developed for the PS3/360 generation? Is it only Destiny 1? Or will D2 be on the older consoles? I'm referring to the court documents/agreement between Bungie/Activision.

 

[LTWood12]

Does anyone remember how many games were going to be developed for the PS3/360 generation? Is it only Destiny 1? Or will D2 be on the older consoles? I'm referring to the court documents/agreement between Bungie/Activision.

Pretty sure it's just the first one.

 

[Kor of Memory]

Does anyone remember how many games were going to be developed for the PS3/360 generation? Is it only Destiny 1? Or will D2 be on the older consoles? I'm referring to the court documents/agreement between Bungie/Activision.

Pretty sure it's just Destiny 1 and everything that comes with it.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Yea if we see each other on I'm down for running it with you man. Any clue what this week burns and strike for NF and Weekly? People accurate said that this week would be no burn on Mars. I have no clue how they knew 12 hours before.



I completely agree. I know there are certain benefits you get with grimoire points but I don't think they really help speed up the leveling of a new character. I don't want to spend an entire day leveling up a new toon. The storymode makes me want to play with stones.



lol I only know you as ms in game, I didn't know you were on gaf. For some reason I thought you were just friends of gaffers. Almost like Miles, I have no clue how I met Miles but he's always dropping in parties saying hi and being friendly lol.

Archon priest for sure and maybe arc burn?

I rage quit Destiny PvP for the first time lol. Some guy with a Thorn was wrecking us. Jesus.

damn, I really can't see you getting pissed and rage quiting honestly.

 

[MrChowderClams]

Archon priest for sure and maybe arc burn?

damn, I really can't see you getting pissed and rage quiting honestly.

My bets are on Archron Priest with rainbow burn. Haven't seen that combo in a while..

 

[Darryl M R]

My bets are on Archron Priest with rainbow burn. Haven't seen that combo in a while..

Archon priest for sure and maybe arc burn?

I'm hoping it's rainbow burn on Archron Priest.

Fate Bringer/Black Hammer/Corrective Measures or Truth

Easy NF. If it is just Arc then, Fate Bringer, Light of Abyss, and Thunderlord will be my go to loadout.

 

[zewone]

The worst part about the vault space issue is that, while the game was in development, they actually sat around, discussed how much vault space to give players, and determined that this paltry number was the best solution. Really? And why on earth would you make stupid shaders, a cosmetic item, take up vault space and inventory? There are so many aspects of this game that are just so poorly designed. Drives me nuts.

I'm stuck with a completed Urn quest that I need to turn into Xur. Xur is gone and I can't abandon it so I'm going to have 9 bounty slots for a week. So lame.

Why Eris bounties are not in the underused "Mission" area of your inventory blows my mind.

 

[Kor of Memory]

So speaking about the Comet DLC and the new destination of the "Hive Ship" I'm wondering what all enemies we might deal with. I mean, there is really only 4 possible outcomes here:

1) Only hive enemies in this area (rating: boring)

2) Hive primarily with Fallen secondary. Unfortunately, Hive and Fallen already share two destinations (rating: boring)

3) Hive with Vex. I would love to see a Knight and Minotaur go at it. (rating: potential interest)

4) Hive with Cabal. I just want to watch a phalanx melee a group of thralls and send their corpses flying into the distance. (rating: potential interest)

Friend of mine brought up that it's possible the game isn't currently coded for certain enemy on enemy interactions, which could be a shame.

 

[Robdraggoo]

My bets are on Archron Priest with rainbow burn. Haven't seen that combo in a while..

has anyone tried the warlock revice enemy despawn trick anywhere else in the game. That would be bonkers on the archon priest with all thise fallen captians running around

not that I condone that sort of stuff. butthe idea of a rainbow burn on that strike sounds luducriously hard. every enemy will one shot you.

 

[Jinjo]

I'm hoping it's rainbow burn on Archron Priest.

Fate Bringer/Black Hammer/Corrective Measures or Truth

Easy NF. If it is just Arc then, Fate Bringer, Light of Abyss, and Thunderlord will be my go to loadout.

With rainbow burn you don't even need to hide. Just stunlock Archon Priest with three people in the beginning of the fight with black hammers and you're done.

 

[Ourobolus]

I've got the HM Gorgon CP

Thanks man, appreciate it.

I'll take another Hawkmoon, I guess. Still hoping for a Gjallarhorn one of these days though...

 

[hydruxo]

Probably discussed many times but these threads move way faster than I can keep up with. What is the consensus on CE hard mode and the level cap? Meaning, since the current lvl is listed as 30, but when you get to Crota everything is 32. With the hard mode set at lvl 33, is that going to mean everything starts at 33 and its 35 by the time you hit Crota, or will it just introduce new mechanics/more majors and shields and max out at lvl 33 enemies at Crota?

It's a cop out really, to have HM be level 33. It's just more artificial difficulty because everyone will be at a disadvantage for it until HoW. There's obviously going to be new mechanics too, but nothing all that interesting. It's just going to be like VoG's detain shields / different Gorgon routes. Stuff like that. I wish they'd made HM stand out more and add a new encounter, but it's not going to happen.

 

[grimlock33]

Thanks man, appreciate it.

I'll take another Hawkmoon, I guess. Still hoping for a Gjallarhorn one of these days though...

No problem and good luck with you're Gjallarhorn hunt.

 

[Kor of Memory]

With rainbow burn you don't even need to hide. Just stunlock Archon Priest with three people in the beginning of the fight with black hammers and you're done.

Hey, some of us still haven't been blessed with the blackest hammer of blacky blackened blackness.

Spoiler

Fuck it, I'll just use the G'horn

 

[commish]

With rainbow burn you don't even need to hide. Just stunlock Archon Priest with three people in the beginning of the fight with black hammers and you're done.

Yeah, if it's at least solar, then he'll die so fast.

 

[Korosenai]

Why can't each individual vault kiosk in the tower be its own separate vault? Then I could have one for VoG gear, CE gear, exotics, etc.

 

[firehawk12]

What the actual fuck did I just read

I must look for this.

Always remember the

Spoiler

lesbian bears

.

 

[scarletham]

Why can't each individual vault kiosk in the tower be its own separate vault? Then I could have one for VoG gear, CE gear, exotics, etc.

That might make too much sense

 

[Ambitious]

I see no reason to assume they've learned anything.
I expect HoW to be exactly like TDB. Three or four short story missions in recycled areas, a new nonsense-babbling vendor, new commendations, the same exotic upgrade system and an oversized Captain as the raid boss.

 

[DJ Lushious]

I still remember that they admitted Halo 2 didn't have an ending cuz they simply ran outta time after scrapping the project a few times, lol

Ugh, thanks for reopening that wound. >_<

 

[DVPredator85]

Does all this House of Wolves stuff mean we're going to have to re-upgrade Exotics again? And what's the point of busting our asses on the hard raid, when the new vanguard gear will be 32? It should stay at 31. And I read somewhere there will be new vanguard comendations, so the ones I've been collecting will be useless.

In getting tired of this constant grind. This game is turning into an endless grind with no point or purpose. I'll play House of Wolves 'cause I bought the season pass, but after that, I'm out.

 

[Robdraggoo]

It's a cop out really, to have HM be level 33. It's just more artificial difficulty. There's obviously going to be new mechanics too, but nothing all that interesting. It's just going to be like VoG's detain shields / different Gorgon routes. Stuff like that. I wish they'd made HM stand out more and add a new encounter, but it's not going to happen.

my best guess


1 No revives
2 arc shields on boomers and sword bearers
3 gatekeepers on crota fight (got to kill it with the sword before taking down crotas shield)
or
4 wizards during crota fight
5 level 33 thruogh out

dont care, want it here already

want the scout rifle, HC and crux of crota. my maxed Ally is gathering so much dust

 

[DNAbro]

I see no reason to assume they've learned anything.
I'm certain that HoW will be exactly like TDB. Three or four short story missions in recycled areas, a new nonsense-babbling vendor, new commendations, the same exotic upgrade system and an oversized Captain as the raid boss.

We are going to get more crucible stuff in HoW though. 4 maps and "new" hardcore game types.