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Destiny |OT17| 17th inning stretch
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xplicitone
Member
This as well. I like this. Special ammo should be special. I've been wanting this for a while!
I guess I'm confused as to why they need to nerf handcannons at all, they were only the third most used weapon after auto rifles/scout rifles. Oh well, it doesn't seem like that big of a nerf.
Huge buffs to pulse rifles and shotguns in PvE have me excited though.
Regarding the AR nerfs: I could really care less. I don't feel like there's any reason to use an AR in end-game PvE other than the SUROS at this point and the only time I'd consider it is during HM Crota.
Huge buffs to pulse rifles and shotguns in PvE have me excited though.
Regarding the AR nerfs: I could really care less. I don't feel like there's any reason to use an AR in end-game PvE other than the SUROS at this point and the only time I'd consider it is during HM Crota.
ArkkAngel007
Member
I don't get why that couldn't be done with the AR nerf against guardians, instead of just trashing the base value overall.
Why even offer ARs at this rate for Raids, especially when shit like the Necrochasm is at the state it is in at the start? Aside from Abyss Defiant, I haven't used ARs since VoG in PvP or PvE.
Glad to see Pulse and Shotguns getting some PvE love.
CouchMaster
Member
lol I tweeted the same tweet to Bungie "Is that a trick question?"
Only beginners use ARs in PVE - that's why their statistics are so skewed. That said, I have no idea why they are nerfing weapons for PVE. Why are they even touching hand cannons? Is it because of the Fatebringer? Hand cannons and scout rifles where the best primaries, now scouts got a little better.
These changes seem to be PVP inspired...
These changes seem to be PVP inspired...
Jinjo
Member
That artificial PvE difficulty increase again. Yes. Give me more sponge in PvE Bungie. Please.
AR's are just a popular weapon class for all the dudebros out there, stop overanalysing thinking it needs a nerf "because it gets used too often dur". High fire rate AR's are even more shit soon.
AR's are just a popular weapon class for all the dudebros out there, stop overanalysing thinking it needs a nerf "because it gets used too often dur". High fire rate AR's are even more shit soon.
brianjones
Member
i think I'm ok with the hc nerf
they really shouldn't be as effective as scout rifles at long range
as much as i love the hawk moon it can be a little ridiculous in pvp 2 shoting someone across the map
they really shouldn't be as effective as scout rifles at long range
as much as i love the hawk moon it can be a little ridiculous in pvp 2 shoting someone across the map
lionelhutz
Member
Anyone running an Atheon CP on HM?
Sword Of Doom
Member
Even the AD is weak relative to the scout rifle and hand cannon. Wtf are they doing? We were just discussing how AR nerfs were really hurting them in PVE. And people use them a lot cause they're AR's. That's always the most appealing weapon.
DrDrizzay101
Member
haha yeah he posted about that a little bit ago, good to know. Might have to snag a normal Gorgons CP before reset just to test it as much as possible next week.
Thanks Jinjo for making a more informative post in 2 minutes than that Weekly Update. Truly a most-DeeJ like of updates. It's like he's actively trying to not improve. What does this entire paragraph even say:
Is there a secret "most words written without saying anything" world record we don't know about?
Yeah I'd like to see more "against all non-Guardian combatants (aliens)" changes. This sounds like I will definitely continue to avoid using ARs ever.
ArkkAngel007
Member
The Last Word/Thorn/Hawkmoon in PvP, and the dialogue indicates that yes it's PvP based.
Which again, make changes separate like they are doing with Shotguns.
gutterboy44
Member
It seems fucking stupid to use the amount of kills with weapon type to justify the AR nerf. Most players love ARs in all games, COD, BF, Destiny, etc. It is also the very first type of gun you get in the game, so of course people are going to like holding down the trigger and mowing shit down. Where is this evidence in PvE that ARs or hand cannons are just tearing through shit too easily? All of the TDB high fire rate low impact ARs are fucking worthless. You have to drope entire mags into trash mobs. Oh my, I just realized, this update is somehow going to manage to make Necrochasm even worse. hahahah..
What the fuck bungie?
What the fuck bungie?
I need two Atheon Hard mode kills to see if the Vex finally drops for me. I have a Gatekeepers checkpoint. Let's see if we can get an evening group, maybe around 8:30pm EST. Let me know if that hour works for you. PSN Shokleeto
Hmm the only auto rifles I feel are effective are Suros and Abyss Defiant now with a further nerf I doubt I'll ever opt to use them. They just flat out aren't as good as Hand Cannons and Scout Rifles right now. At least in HM Crota's End it takes FOREVER to kill something with an Auto Rifle I feel like I'm just tickling the Hive. I guess we'll see how this balances weapon use in PVE... I really hope they don't mess with my Hand Cannons too much. The news on HoW not coming until Q2 means I can try to play some other games until then as unless they release some interesting PVE content out of the blue I have no reason to continue playing with only a few things still needed (Ghorn, Crux and Word of Crota), I have all 3 classes at 32 now and mostly geared the way I want. I've put a good amount of time into the game so far (somewhere around 475 hours or so) so I'm satisfied to an extent but I still wish there was something new to do, the game has some really good content but too much of it right now is repeating the SAME thing over and over with little to no variety besides random bugs trying to down Crota in HM...
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
i just got to level 27 and it seems now that nightfall strikes are available. can anyone explain what the difference is from the standard weekly? i see there modifiers but not quite sure what they mean and also it says the rewards are unknown. what have you had as rewards? do you get vanguard marks/reputation or engrams?
i might jump on and see if i can get into one to try it out.
i might jump on and see if i can get into one to try it out.
Hmm my wife gets home around then tonight from work so I'm not sure I'll be playing that late
brianjones
Member
their nerfing of AR's seems based on the suros which is kind of the only good ar in the game
not really but kind of
still don't have one
not really but kind of
still don't have one
joecanada
Member
What a bunch of idiots. There's always going to be "op" weapons no matter what because everything you nerf is replaced by what you didn't . So you boost pulse rifles 10 %? Find I'll use bad Juju and mida... I actually save all my guns for one reason....
Don't Trust Bungie
I agree with the shotgun buff in PvE
New build. Voidwalker, bad Juju, gauntlet of amahakara, punch everyone in close, ignoring all those nerfed weapons lol. Bring red hand out of retirement with huge range boost.
Feel sorry for those who Shard weapons I have about one of everything
xplicitone
Member
haha that would be pretty funny. Nothing but specials and melee attacks.
ArkkAngel007
Member
The only reason AD gets love is that it reks Hive Wizards and that it behaves similar to Suros in ability to land shots with ok-ish impact. But still sad that 300 dmg hand cannon from vanilla content can perform better. Looking at the Hard Raid weapons, I don't see them preparing us for HoW's content like VoG weapons.
Exception perhaps being the arc scout rifle.
You speak as if Bungie has control over vendors. They told us they can't!
He's grinding it out to level up as a better community manager.
xplicitone
Member
Destiny |OT18| May the Nerf be with you. And also with you.
Yeah ARs need to a serious nerf across the board. Pulse rifles need buffing. Hand cannon range nerf I can live with
I mostly love Scout rifles and hand cannons.
Fusion rifles can get nerfed into the ground. They reign supreme in Rumble. With a L10 I was winning Rumbles with a Fusion rifle last time I tested (pre-Crota expansion but that shouldnt make any diff)
* PVP balance will still suck tho due to Supers. Need new gamemode like we had in Halo that does not allow supers. Halo had that great level of polish and tuning that PvP demands
gutterboy44
Member
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I kept a bunch. I don't know why, but it should be fun to try them out now.
They say exactly that in the weapon breakdown.
xplicitone
Member
The only Pulse rifle I have is the raid one. I want to use it now to get some damage stats on it then use it post-patch and compare. Too bad I sharded my last 3 coiled hisses haha
Damn PVP always making it worse for the actual people that bring life to the game.
Exactly - their statistics are inflated by people being naturally drawn to full auto.
Like I said, PVP business should stick in PVP. That's the only way.
EL CUCO
Member
They mentioned that.
Tbh, Suros has ridiculous range...almost Scout Rifle like range, but I don't see why they have to nerf the entire weapon class over one weapon. Unless they are looking forward to HoW weapons and are getting this out of the way now.
xplicitone
Member
I'm glad they aren't touching Scouts. They'll always be my main squeeze
joecanada
Member
Ya I figured as much... It's like when I was super excited to find an AR with glass half full perk lol... Protip - Wow if this happens to you don't get too excited lol
Amibguous Cad
Member
Nightfalls drop a ton of good stuff - at least a purple material, usually a purple engram or weapon, sometimes exotics. My first nightfall I got a The Last Word. Plus it gives you an exp and reputation boost (double?). Fr the week. Much harder than normal weekly strikes though.
EL CUCO
Member
Ha, nice pun
brianjones
Member
yeah i found this out recently
was excited to get that with my vanquisher considering its low clip size
GuitarAtomik
Member
Great update!
I'll echo the concern over the AR nerf. I think they could have largely left them untouched with those changes to the other weapons. I think the numbers are skewed by the fact that that style of weapon is the most comfortable to most people playing an FPS whether they're actually better or not.
I'll echo the concern over the AR nerf. I think they could have largely left them untouched with those changes to the other weapons. I think the numbers are skewed by the fact that that style of weapon is the most comfortable to most people playing an FPS whether they're actually better or not.
robertlebrone
Member
I'm excited about the shotgun changes. Finally a reason to pull out UR and Invective in PvE? That would be great.