silver.tongue
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Wasnt everybody using vex or fatebringer for a while?
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Destiny |OT17| 17th inning stretch
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Wasnt everybody using vex or fatebringer for a while?
Meh on Vex. Not bad, but generally not worth my exotic slot.
Necrochasm... proof attack rating means nothing.
Fatebringer is the VoG raid weapon to covet.
Necrochasm... proof attack rating means nothing.
Well that part is true.
Fatebringer is the VoG raid weapon to covet.
JohnOfMars
Banned
The reserve ammo amount is for PvE. I run out constantly, even if I'm pacing my shots.
But Bungie/DeeJ have explicitly said that they have no intent to revist the Mythoclast, ever. It will never be upgraded to new attack values even.
We should setup a Spec Build page for the front page. The one above is great for the Spamming Nova Bomb. Other suggestions is specs for Titans' Boomer Duty; Hunter Crota, etc.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Wouldn't be an issue if the dailies were a part of some kind of expansion story arc that progressed daily instead of the same missions over and over. There's no context, just repitition
DrDrizzay101
Member
Vex is still an awesome PvP gun but it doesn't rank at all for PvE really. It's fine but no reason to waste your exotic spot on it. It's unfortunately not more effective, but at least Vex still feels like a reward. It's a fantastically designed weapon with a unique model, firing sound and gunplay feel. Even the flavor text is interesting.
Necrochasm is none of those things. They literally add boring green flames to the same ugly ass model. First time I equipped it someone asked if I was carrying the Murmur because it looks the same. It almost feels like Bungie is still pissed about the OG Hard Atheon cheese screwing up the "specialness" of the Vex, to make the new raid "reward" weapon this aggressively terrible.
Necrochasm is none of those things. They literally add boring green flames to the same ugly ass model. First time I equipped it someone asked if I was carrying the Murmur because it looks the same. It almost feels like Bungie is still pissed about the OG Hard Atheon cheese screwing up the "specialness" of the Vex, to make the new raid "reward" weapon this aggressively terrible.
shrug... shrug. the vex is a glorious weapon and good or better than good at every task I've ever attempted to apply it to. It is extremely useful in CE through to Crota. I don't use it much simply because there are guns I personally prefer.
edit: I'm gonna use it to shear through this Nightfall because of this conversation
edit: I'm gonna use it to shear through this Nightfall because of this conversation
used to exist. and i'm always jotting down new build ideas. if I ever take on ot duties again I'll bring it back I guess.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I think its the exact same model as the murmur. Even has the window on the side where you see the fusion rifle charging
DrDrizzay101
Member
haha just buy heavy from Xur, stop wasting your time with that stupid glitch!
But seriously I stand up on the door/coffin frames until we've cleared out enough acolytes to move around more freely (and also they dropped the heavy if I was doing the glitch, which I've only bothered with a few times).
AmateurHour212
Member
Did you just sigh?? You aren't allowed to sigh about anything today.
Dhruv_hanom
Member
I used a pulse rifle in the beta and wondered why I sucked so much at pvp
really? with Field Scout, it has more than enough before reload. I use it all the time for PVP and PVE.
k1t4j
Member
hahaha, sometimes it seems that Bungie is so disconnected from the community and how we play their game.
The Vex was a great weapon and felt like that in the beginning, after the nerf was not as good but good nonetheless.
And the weapon everyone ends up taking to Crota, was and possibly still is Fatebringer a top tier HC in PVE by all accounts.
All their decisions and spoon fed bullshit (xur is random el oh el) makes me wonder.
DO you want us to keep playing your game?
I have unfortunately limited myself to tuesdays/wednesdays of 2 NFs and CE HM and CE normal.
Lets see what happens when HoW drops, amidst so many good games coming out.
AmateurHour212
Member
Which one(s) and how is that going?
I did that last night with Red Death. Dropped some XP into it so I could unlock the Red Death perk and then took it on a short ROC strike tour. I wasn't terribly impressed but the upcoming buff may change that.
Sword Of Doom
Member
That glitch has been a godsend. Last night we cleared Crota 3 times and I didn't have to use a single synth.
We tried popping a bubble near the window and it seems like the Knights get less aggro. It's interesting how the bubble itself seems to aggro Crota and the Knights. They don't seem to like it at all
Currently using Red Death since it's the only one have all but one of the bubbles unlocked. Gonna max out Bad Juju next.
it won't. if you don't like the feel of the gun a statistical buff isn't going to change anything at all
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Currently at 505 glimmer, less then 1k glimmer all week and 6 heavy ammo packs.. Might be doing the heavy ammo glitches often till xur sells them again..just saying.
same, I always hope someone else is doing it so no one has to wait just for me
DrDrizzay101
Member
Embrace your inner min/max'er Hawkian!
Vex is not a good PvE weapon, but there aren't very many exotics that rank highly in PvE from a true min/max perspective. Using your exotic spot is the key here. Like I always say about these things: it's completely fine and you can do all content in the game with it because the ideal weapon load out isn't that critical. You can tear through the NFall with it... but why wouldn't you use Abyss Defiant or VoC as solar primary and put your exotic to something else?
Very true... if I actually play the game at all until weekly reset, haha. Best way I've found to save heavy synth: backlog!
My *guess* there's a disgruntled (or guardian angel) programmer/designer at Bungie that intentionally adds these crazy bugs/cheeses to help out the player base. Because that bug is just so crazy you'd never think its true til you see it.
This.
I'm not liking red death at the moment but it's only been 5 minutes. Gonna give it an hour and see if I come around to it.
Johan Liebert
Member
All Cabal dailies have the Angry modifier. honestly it's waaaay more annoying,
yup, standing by there is way safer. Also gives you a view of both sides so you can see Knights entering from either side and it gives you an opportunity to react faster.
CouchMaster
Member
If only
I bought 250 when he sold it last time, I now have less than 20 per character.
Dance inside the bubble and it's even worse. They have to destroy you.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Currently at 505 glimmer, less then 1k glimmer all week and 6 heavy ammo packs.. Might be doing the heavy ammo glitches often till xur sells them again..just saying.
same, I always hope someone else is doing it so no one has to wait just for me
I see normal GK in your future
Of course it was MY idea all along
Where would you guys be without ME???
AmateurHour212
Member
Actually I liked the feel of the gun. I was more referring to TTK I guess.
They're also going to make shotguns and pulse rifles better in PVE. The only change that seems PVP related and also negatively affects PVE is another assault rifle nerf.
I really like oversoul edict.
k1t4j
Member
I would also like to know this especially to my HC.
Please tell me its not bad....
Someone.... please
Hand cannons? It'sallover.gif
Nah we really won't know until the patch goes live. Range nerf; have to see how severe
DrDrizzay101
Member
If only
I bought 250 when he sold it last time, I now have less than 20 per character.
I was trying to get people to load up on heavy synth for a long time, because people kept complaining about the 100-200 strange coin piles they had. I spent every last coin I had on synth last two times he brought it. I've been buying a few heavy synths with glimmer just to have something this week, I ran out of my stash a while back.
Since Normal Scrota's Ass launched in December, I've gone through upwards of 800 heavy synth, at least. I popped them all the time, in every group I'd help with Scrota just because I never wanted anything I did to hold back the group (i.e. well, I probably don't need more rockets to finish Ogres and 3rd sword bearer...).
Edit: vvv I also stocked up on Telemetries of every weapon type over time as he sold them, so that I have 30+ of each now. Too bad I don't care about leveling any guns.
Darryl M R
Member
B-but. . but. .
I think they're good changes for Crucible since it punishes the new players running around with ARs and Fusions. PvP should require a tiny bit more skill. Still need to add an optional game mode where there's no supers to remove all the newbie-friendly helpers
Unfortunately, any nerf is always bad news to pve players
I really never use an AR unless forced by those lame Iron Banner bounties so I dont really care. I like Scouts, snipers, shotties, & hand cannons.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I'm the same way. If I have packs I'm gonna use them no matter what I'm doing.
I wonder what percentage of your 800 synths worth of rockets were lost due to the heavy ammo bug
I just read through it quickly but the justification for basically EVERY change was PvP related... I still can't think of a reason I'd want to use a shotty or pulse rifle in PvE except for maybe Bad Juju or Red Death and for those you have to use up your exotic on a primary... Whatever, just wish they'd separate the PvP fro PvE.
I haven't seen this mentioned when talking about the weapon changes, but does this worry anyone else?
"SCOUT RIFLE, SNIPER RIFLE, HEAVY MACHINEGUN, ROCKET LAUNCHER
For the most part, these weapons have not been changed as a part of this update. However, changes to the Destiny arsenal mean that untouched weapons may now seem different in side by side comparisons. You may discover new reasons to start using some of these weapons as part of your combat strategy."
I'm worried that this may be their way of saying there will be weapon specific changes for these and that one of those is a gjallarhorn nerf.
"SCOUT RIFLE, SNIPER RIFLE, HEAVY MACHINEGUN, ROCKET LAUNCHER
For the most part, these weapons have not been changed as a part of this update. However, changes to the Destiny arsenal mean that untouched weapons may now seem different in side by side comparisons. You may discover new reasons to start using some of these weapons as part of your combat strategy."
I'm worried that this may be their way of saying there will be weapon specific changes for these and that one of those is a gjallarhorn nerf.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Anything is possible but if they nerf the gjallarhorn they will never hear the end of it
Not to mention it being a huge carrot dangling in front of people who don't have it yet. Keeps people playing the game. I don't think they'll want to take that away by nerfing it
Horn nerf would be the final straw for me.
Don't worry, the GHorn won't get nerfed until the Tuesday after it's sold by Xur...
That may cause some confusion to new players when their guns behave differently depending on the zones and its an immersion breaker (kinda)
Instead, I'd rather see all PvE mobs get their hit points reduced. Fix the root issue- a lot of these mobs got a bit too much hit points
robertlebrone
Member
Same. Can't wait til it gets buffed.