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Destiny |OT21| Our House, in the Middle of the Reef
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It'll still let you in, lol. I'm not saying I advise it or that it will be easy.
You can also get the 34 done on another character if you have one and transfer the etheric light.
There are definite advantages and while I think the complaints about key acquisition may or may not turn out to be warranted, that will be variable with simple tweaks if it is really necessary- there are a lot of ways Bungie can get us extra keys each week if that's what should really happen.
The most telling and major difference with this kind of system is that a player can acquire a key completely solo and access the treasure room via matchmaking the 28 PoE- effectively giving a much broader swath of the playerbase access to a raid-like drop point without the need to assemble a fireteam at all, let alone a 6-man raid group.
You can turn that into a 365 Gjallarhorn instantly.
And the only prescription is more Hawk.
Reptars Revenge
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Play salvage. I have a 2.8 KD and find a challenge most of the time on that playlist. TOO will probably have all the skilled players, it should be fun.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Welp did starters you automatically have something like a ~30 % penalty already.
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Yeah I believe I mention it would become a joke once the level cap is increased. Personally still bullshit bungie made "hard" mode by forcing the players to be underlevel.
Ha... Ghllajhorn PrimeSeen this on Twitter yesterday, not sure if it made it here yet:
Seen this on Twitter yesterday, not sure if it made it here yet:
Oh hey it's Narmer.
ethomaz
Banned
If you have wolfpacks unlocked yes.
Ghorn is to call enemies attentions... so I shot it even in group of weak enemies... if the enemies have the attention on you then you won't disable the mine... you need to stay five seconds of more in the same place and all enemies will shot you (wizards and boomers).
For example... when a buddy goes to disable a mine I start to shot Ghorns on enemies to them follow me and left my buddy disable the mine
.PS. Just go to Gorgon chest... get a Exotic... shard it and make your Horn 365
Forerunner
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ToO prioritizing connection over skill has me skeptical. Yeah, the gear is nice, but I really just don't want to roll over everyone. Hopefully it turns out to be a good time.
Don't be shard-stingy, take it to 365!
if you're out of Exotic shards they'll be on sale this weekend with Xur.First weekend of ToO will likely be a combination of skilled & not so skilled players. There's going to be a lot of people trying it out who don't normally play PVP simply for the fact that it's a new mode and they want the gear. I'd expect in the coming weeks ToO will get harder once the newness wears off and the regular PVPers keep at it.
If you have wolfpacks unlocked yes.
Ghorn is to call enemies attentions... so I shot it even in group of weak enemies... if the enemies have the attention on you then you won't disable the mine... you need to stay five seconds of more in the same place and all enemies will shot you (wizards and boomers).
For example... when a buddy goes to disable a mine I start to shot Ghorns on enemies to them follow me and left my buddy disable the mine
Thanks Yoda
Don't be shard-stingy, take it to 365!
I'm all out dude! I got a bit excited.
Scousefury
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Agreed and i will use TLW no doubt about it, but the playstyle in ToO will lead teams to hide corners and snipe etc (Hawkmoon's great strength), TLW work great in carefree aggressive pvp, will it work well in ToO super defensive games? dunno guess we will find out. RAMBO MODE ENGAGE!
Reptars Revenge
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Oh yeah the connection thing hmmm. It should be interesting. I guess the big question is if all the elite teams will stop once they get 9 wins or just play the part of saboteur all weekend.
Guys I work with got a Plan C and a Dragon's Breath on their first times through. I haven't gone through myself yet.
PrivateWHudson
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Easy solution. Have me in your fireteam like a golf handicap. I'll be sue to go negative for you.
You'll be fine.
Pro Tips:
Round 4 and 5 - ALWAYS take down the wizards and ogres Itas soon as you see them, make sure to use call outs.
Round 5 - Set recovery attribute to Max.
Warlocks - Use Angel Of Light to stay off the floor.
Hunter - Use your double jump right before you touch the floor
Titan - God help you. I used increased height and my bubble with Armor of light with things got sticky.
It's really not that hard though.
What's your PSN, I'll play ToO with you
The 55A-Allfate looks pretty solid. Play with all the bubbles here and see what you might like.
http://www.destinydb.com/items/3478790850-spare-change-25
Ghallerhorn wasn't the first thing you thought of to upgrade? :O
Suros and Monte Carlo and a few queen weapons
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Can you get exots from non key chests?
Your first time through it seems very very likely that you are guaranteed an exotic. Sure there was nothing at the postmaster?
You get a guaranteed exotic your first run through PoE
I should've been more specific, I should've meant besides that lol
ahahaha
Thank you for explaining what I was saying far more concisely.
Yeah; it's really strange how they don't learn. I genuinely hope that the keys aren't a pain point, a la Impala26's suggestions, above, and my own in the post you replied to. Let the grinders grind within reason, but let everyone get their cookie every week.
Two full months of shit luck for me. It's really starting to take the wind out of my sails. If I didn't have you guys in the raid crew, I'm not sure I'd still be hanging with it.
I don't think anyone has suggested "lots" of guaranteed keys. Granting players one key for the first PoE boss kill of the week, and/or one if they're willing to do the bounties (~1 hour of play) each week means 1 or 2 exotic roll for about 30-90 minutes of work. This is completely in line with raid exotic drops. Hell, NM CE gives you 2 exotic drops for ~30 minutes of work.
The problem with NO guaranteed key is that it gives PoE a limited shelf life.
If the 'average' end game player isn't willing to grind for keys, it means PoE will be reduced to min/maxing in literally a month (there are only so many armor pieces and they've stated that they'll rotate through predictably, and there are only so many legendary weapons "worth" ascending or that people actually use).
I agree that the hardest of the hardcore should be able to grind keys then grind PoE to their hearts' content, but no guaranteed key makes it ONLY for those people. Huge miscalculation on Bungie's part, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do what another poster said, above: "Oops! no key from the boss is a bug!" I hope it really is a bug; the alternative is severe myopia.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Meh frankly the "expansion" has been disappointing. 1 strike, 1st story mission is a strike backward instead of a story mission backward strike, 2nd story mission is a patrol. Def not worth $20 so far imo.
This makes me feel better about not farming for keys then.
Forerunner
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I'm not a huge fan of elimination, so I'll probably just stop at how many wins you need, unless other people need help then I'll play some more. Five wins was the armor and eight was the weapon. So I don't know what nine wins gets you.
D:
Sorry, XB1,
still regret it lol.
EJRobinson90
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We could always open a new one. Takes only 25-30 mins
My 4th Horseman was in there, I just know it
No your 4th Horseman is in my vault.
Kinda liking Pest Control Matrix, if just for the break from scout rifles these last few months, but I'm not convinced on my roll:
Replenish
Lightweight / Skip Rounds / Rifled Barrel*
Persistence
Seems like an ideal roll AR would incorporate Glass Half Full and whatever the new Field Scout is?
Replenish
Lightweight / Skip Rounds / Rifled Barrel*
Persistence
Seems like an ideal roll AR would incorporate Glass Half Full and whatever the new Field Scout is?
HiredN00bs
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Wait, you can roll Exotics on Normal, then Hard?I might be in the minority's here but I like the Treasure Key mechanic the way it is. There's no way in hell I'll grind Patrol for hours every week trying to get some. But it's good to offer people who have more time to put into the game these additional opportunities.
I'll still have NF x3, Gorgon's x6, Atheon x3, Deathsinger x3, Crota x6...that's a damn heck of a lot of Exotic rolls. No way I can do all of those every week. For the guys who knock that list out each Tuesday at reset, the possibility of rolls hinged on a super rare drop from an annoying disappearing chest sounds fair.
PoE will still give me cores and Etherics and fun, more than enough reason to keep running it.
The systems you guys suggest with lots of guarantees Keys per week would mean changing the treasure's generosity. Chances at Exotics are sooo high, with some people getting 2 Exotics at once. It's cool that it's there and I guess it's meant to be something most of us experience perhaps once or twice a month.
Hardcore players with tons of free time can experience that every week, perhaps multiple times. Seems fair
Dang it!
BMO = GOAT
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Is the ILL Will any good? Just got it from crucible
Forerunner
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Just got this little guy, think I'll keep it. Don't even have to reforge.
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