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[Impala26]

Having personally done the Grind for Grimoire for both Hydra and Ogre, I can tell you this:

Ogres are more rare, there are a total of 3 that spawn in patrols. 2 on Cosmodrome (Skywatch and Grottos) and 1 on the Moon (entrance to Temple of Crota).

The fastest Ogre cycle is 36-37 seconds seen here. It takes place in the Shrine of Oryx mission.

The fastest Hydra "cycle" is right outside the gate to the black garden. There are plenty of Hydra that spawn in Vex missions, but a lot of them are either Majors/Ultras (and those DON'T COUNT!) or they aren't close enough to a checkpoint to have a good cycle. The Black Garden gate cycle can be done in about 55-65 seconds. The problem here is that the Hydra spawns with 2 Hobos and 4 Minotaurs. You have to kill all of these enemies to trigger the respawn cooldown.

There are also possible delays for the Black Garden gate if any nearby player actually wants to use it for it's intended purpose. It causes a hiccup in the respawn. Similarly, the visual haze effect of opening the portal can be an issue as well.


TL;DR Approx 90 Ogres/hour vs 50 Hydra/hour

Thanks for the tips, but... where the hell is there an ogre in Skywatch on patrol?

EDIT: WEEEEEEEE!!!

http://i.imgur.com/vG2litZ.gifv

 

[Lnkn52]

This is a classier headline from Polygon:

It's unclear if the technical issues will impact the release date for the expansion.

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

House of Wolves canceled, Bungie refunds players

Spoiler

with ass mats

 

[ethomaz]

Thanks for the tips, but... where the hell is there an ogre in Skywatch on patrol?

In a cave near the old helicopter... you need to fall to reach it.

 

[kittens]

Grinding kills for a certain enemy type? Why would you do that to yourself, lol. Destiny is already enough of a grind as it is.

 

[GutZ31]

Thanks for the tips, but... where the hell is there an ogre in Skywatch on patrol?

Near the helicopters, the broken handle bars at the cliff, jump down, and there is an ogre, or knight that spawns.

 

[Kor of Memory]

I'm using that place for Ogers.

About Hydras the last mission on Mars near the part you need to turn on two points before enters in the last boss part there is a Hydra. Kill it and die... the kill/die cycle is a bit faster than Ogers... I guess 25-30s max... I did my Hydra grind in 2 hours I guess.

Edit - Here is the place: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ2YHmSgwlo (Opposite of the video I just go to the Hydra and when I kill it I was almost dead by the others enemies).

Hmm... Going by this video thats 1 Hydra every 35 seconds, which puts pretty much exactly on par with the Ogres. Good deal.

So now both of them can be farmed at roughly 100/hour.

 

[boofa]

Speaking of Grimoire, I was poking around to see what I am missing and don't have the card for Urzok even though I've helped folks kill him several times. Do you only get the card if you deliver the final blow? I've never done the Eris quest for gauntlets either. I really hope that isn't a requirement.

 

[ErnieMcCracken]

Anyone need to do the weekly?

I can jump on and help if you want.

 

[vctor182]

Do the Hydras from Eye of the Gate Lord count? It seems if you don't destroy their portal they keep spawning?

 

[Deku Tree]

Grinding kills for a certain enemy type? Why would you do that to yourself, lol. Destiny is already enough of a grind as it is.

People want max Grimoire score because reasons.

Near the helicopters, the broken handle bars at the cliff, jump down, and there is an ogre, or knight that spawns.

It's hiding.

 

[kittens]

Anyone on XB1 wanna run the Nightfall and/or Weekly Heroic?

 

[Sleepy Buddha]

House of Wolves canceled, Bungie refunds players

Spoiler

with ass mats

I believe you!

 

[boofa]

Do the Hydras from Eye of the Gate Lord count? It seems if you don't destroy their portal they keep spawning?

Those are Harpies, though there is a Hydra there but I don't think it will ever respawn.

 

[Kor of Memory]

Thanks for the tips, but... where the hell is there an ogre in Skywatch on patrol?

Under the Helicopters. Of course.

 

[ethomaz]

Speaking of Grimoire, I was poking around to see what I am missing and don't have the card for Urzok even though I've helped folks kill him several times. Do you only get the card if you deliver the final blow? I've never done the Eris quest for gauntlets either. I really hope that isn't a requirement.

I think the card in a fixed place... not killing the Urzok.

 

[Moobabe]

I ran 10 or so patrol quests on the Moon having come back in preparation for next week having had a few months away.

I was pleasantly surprised to see a lot of public events in that time! Definitely spiced up the patrol - but when I shifted across to Venus there were none.

Still - some subtle things have changed that I like. Fingers crossed for next week.

 

[Kor of Memory]

Speaking of Grimoire, I was poking around to see what I am missing and don't have the card for Urzok even though I've helped folks kill him several times. Do you only get the card if you deliver the final blow? I've never done the Eris quest for gauntlets either. I really hope that isn't a requirement.

Some Ultras require you be the actual killing blow, or within a very close proximity of the person delivering the killing blow.

Kinda like how if you have a Bounty to kill the Nexus, and you don't get it because you were too far back in the tunnel with the respawning minotaur.

 

[noomi]

Need one more for nightfall., starting now. Join on noomi85

 

[Hawkian]

Answer me thing in the mouth face!

Spoiler

sorry, had to

haha damn. wow... I actually was referencing rlm, didn't expect anyone to pick up on it, I'm gonna give you 10 points

Quoting you for visibility, but put me and T-44 in whatever queue you have for Tuesday eve and the Prison of Elders train. I'm sure we'll all be playing w/ multiple folks throughout that evening, but I'd love to talk through the encounters & stuff w/ you for the fun of it.

I will absolutely scan my friends list for you two, and if you catch me on please don't hesitate to send me an invite.

He's not giving you a heads up, though. You knew the patch was delayed, and that HoW is scheduled for the 19th. That is all of what the author knows as well. He's just speculating that it might delay HoW, without any confirmation or indication of such. I think it's pretty irresponsible reporting to headline the story that way, all it does is put Bungie on the spot to defend something they never said. To comment in the story itself that the delay might be possible, but Bungie hasn't said one way or the other, would be fine. But then I'd also expect the author to reach out to Bungie for comment. He didn't bother, because that would be actual reporting.

Dunno, I just hate this kind of "reporting" where someone takes one bit of news and runs with it to a conclusion not supported by the primary source, without even bothering to do any follow up.

Yep... precisely. just think, now if Bungie does announce that the release may be delayed... they can point to their headline. "Look, we broke the story before anyone else!"

Preliminary patches like this are scheduled in advance so that they can test the content in the actual game world behind the scenes IMO... Not to give them wiggle room in case there are "technical problems" with the patch itself.

I'm not totally sure what you're getting at, but these are two sides of the same coin as far as I'm concerned. An issue affecting "how the game launches" is pretty vague, it could be quite a few things causing it, but whatever the issue, imagine if they'd discovered the impact level when prepping the patch up to deploy on the 19th instead of the 12th.

There's a bunch of reasons you patch platform stuff like this beforehand. One of which is just so you can immediately enable content on a rollover so they don't have any downtime in the transition. But it also does allow them to check for platform/deploy issues early. Main goal here is generally to reduce potential triage and maximize CCU/DAU with the deploy.

exactly. Their #1 priority right now has to be a smooth a day as possible on the 19th, whatever that means as far as 1.2.0.

This is a more classier headline from Polygon:

No problem whatsoever with this.

 

[AmateurHour212]

What perk is everyone using on the second set of three? I think it's between armor-piercing, send it, and stability.

 

[squidhands]

The imagery you have implanted in my head, can I have a refund?

As long as you accept broken promises as currency, yes.

Which in turn made something of his huge.

NOOOOO!!!! WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!?!?!

Edit: notice the deductive reasoning I just did... things always seem to come full-circle

ewww, too far!!!!

 

[Wallach]

What perk is everyone using on the second set of three? I think it's between armor-piercing, send it, and stability.

I don't have mine yet, but being a high ROF PR I imagine most people run Perfect Balance. Stability makes a big difference as ROF increases, especially in that weapon's case where you have increased incentive to get kills before expiring the magazine.

 

[Impala26]

In a cave near the old helicopter... you need to fall to reach it.

Near the helicopters, the broken handle bars at the cliff, jump down, and there is an ogre, or knight that spawns.

Under the Helicopters. Of course.

I knew of said alcove, but the handful of times I've been down there it's always been a Knight for me.

The one in the Grotto cave has always been an ogre in my encounters.

 

[ThirtyPlus]

It's funny to me how RNG in this game and personal taste to some extent combine to make white whales out of certain loot.

My luck with loot has been pretty great in this game compared to most games I've played. My first exotic was a Gjallerhorn I got from a purple engram and I had no I idea how much it would eventually be coveted. I also had the Fatebringer drop the second VoG hardmode I ever ran.

My Moby for most of this game has been the Hawkmoon. I almost totally quit playing Destiny when TDB released. Seeing Bungie add more arbitrary time sinks and hurdles to enjoyment and one step forward two steps back approach to solving issues soured me to the game. That combined with some friends quitting the game altogether left me with no real reason to play.

Except for Hawkmoon. I eventually settled on playing once a week to run the Nightfall three times a week just for that gun. Never dropped. So many coins, so many shards, no Hawkmoon.

Then I heard the details about HoW. Upgrading legendaries you say? Sold. VoC, Fatebringer...all my toys don't have to be left behind. I started thinking I should run VoG again to get a Corrective Measure that I never got.

Three weeks times three clears of VoG HM, no CM. First run I got my Hawkmoon. Cool little gun but it since I can upgrade my Fatebringer, the luster is lost. Every week I have gotten a Vex Mythoclast which is cool, I guess. I had a Praetorian Foil drop which had the folks in my party excited since I suppose it's extremely rare...I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna shard it.

Twenty plus VoG clears and no Corrective Measure. I needsss it. I wantsss it. Yes, my precious. I should be excited about next week, but a soon as I heard that the patch would delayed I was relieved...three more shots at a CM before HoW.

Any other Ahab's out there still searching?

 

[Kadey]

On a scale of 0 - 10, how mad would you be if House of Wolves got delayed?

Me. 5. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit more if to refine it. Maybe add a raid or two. But don't like it come out like 2 months from now.

Anybody up for weeklies?

 

[brianjones]

What perk is everyone using on the second set of three? I think it's between armor-piercing, send it, and stability.

send it (on an SOS)

the stability is p good on it without that perk

 

[Hawkian]

What perk is everyone using on the second set of three? I think it's between armor-piercing, send it, and stability.

Perfect Balance is a big deal on pulses IMO, and particularly taking into account full auto I think that's the winner. Send It would be great too, if you find the stability isn't really an issue for you to begin with though. Armor-Piercing is a niche choice and not as all around useful as the other two.

 

[moris]

On a scale of 0 - 10, how mad would you be if House of Wolves got delayed?

Me. 5. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit more if to refine it. Maybe add a raid or two. But don't like it come out like 2 months from now.

Anybody up for weeklies?

I'm down for two weeklies.

 

[vicious696]

Any other Ahab's out there still searching?

For me my White Whale is Hunger of Crota, got every exotic weapon, VoG weapon and every Crota weapon except Hunger.

My last 6 Crota Normal runs have ended in Radiant Shards

 

[Sleepy Buddha]

It's funny to me how RNG in this game and personal taste to some extent combine to make white whales out of certain loot.

My luck with loot has been pretty great in this game compared to most games I've played. My first exotic was a Gjallerhorn I got from a purple engram and I had no I idea how much it would eventually be coveted. I also had the Fatebringer drop the second VoG hardmode I ever ran.

My Moby for most of this game has been the Hawkmoon. I almost totally quit playing Destiny when TDB released. Seeing Bungie add more arbitrary time sinks and hurdles to enjoyment and one step forward two steps back approach to solving issues soured me to the game. That combined with some friends quitting the game altogether left me with no real reason to play.

Except for Hawkmoon. I eventually settled on playing once a week to run the Nightfall three times a week just for that gun. Never dropped. So many coins, so many shards, no Hawkmoon.

Then I heard the details about HoW. Upgrading legendaries you say? Sold. VoC, Fatebringer...all my toys don't have to be left behind. I started thinking I should run VoG again to get a Corrective Measure that I never got.

Three weeks times three clears of VoG HM, no CM. First run I got my Hawkmoon. Cool little gun but it since I can upgrade my Fatebringer, the luster is lost. Every week I have gotten a Vex Mythoclast which is cool, I guess. I had a Praetorian Foil drop which had the folks in my party excited since I suppose it's extremely rare...I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna shard it.

Twenty plus VoG clears and no Corrective Measure. I needsss it. I wantsss it. Yes, my precious. I should be excited about next week, but a soon as I heard that the patch would delayed I was relieved...three more shots at a CM before HoW.

Any other Ahab's out there still searching?

Still trying to get Fatebringer and Atheon's Epilogue which I never got. Got Hawkmoon yesterday, so that's one down. Still need to get the Bad Juju bounty to show up for me as well...

 

[ethomaz]

I ended my PVE grind today...

Ogers Kills: 125/250 (+57)
Shotgun Kills: 3678/5000 (+323)
Hunter Kills: 16933/20000 (+903)

I don't know if I do PVP griding now... I need to reach 100 Clash wins (70 right now).

 

[AmateurHour212]

Any other Ahab's out there still searching?

 

[CLBridges]

I'm starting to get out of the loop with Destiny I guess? There's rumors of HoW delays now, hmmm? Oh well, fix what needs fixing and release it when it's done Bungie.

 

[DY_nasty]

What perk is everyone using on the second set of three? I think it's between armor-piercing, send it, and stability.

I almost always run stability on PRs. Bad Juju's range boost with send it doesn't make that much of a difference imo - at the point where the damage drop off occurs, you should probably be using a sniper rifle anyways.

AP is great when dealing with Hive, but stability is just too important to PRs overall.

 

[Deku Tree]

On a scale of 0 - 10, how mad would you be if House of Wolves got delayed?

Me. 5. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit more if to refine it. Maybe add a raid or two. But don't like it come out like 2 months from now.

They are not refining it. If anything they are fixing "technical issues" and releasing exactly what they told us we were getting as soon as the issues are fixed.

 

[Kadey]

I'm down for two weeklies.

I'll be waiting in orbit.

 

[LTWood12]

Any other Ahab's out there still searching?

I'd cleared VoG probably between 30-40 times before getting my first Corrective Measure a couple of weeks ago. Then of course, got it again last week.

 

[ThirtyPlus]

Lol. I guess I hit a nerve?

I'd cleared VoG probably between 30-40 times before getting my first Corrective Measure a couple of weeks ago. Then of course, got it again last week.

Oh lawd....

 

[Darryl M R]

On a scale of 0 - 10, how mad would you be if House of Wolves got delayed?

Me. 5. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit more if to refine it. Maybe add a raid or two. But don't like it come out like 2 months from now.

Anybody up for weeklies?

Do you have 1 spot left? I need 1 weekly

 

[Sleepy Buddha]

I'll be waiting in orbit.

I'm down for 2 as well. Do we need mics, or is it micless?

 

[Kadey]

One moe spot foe weekly. Just join me in orbit before the party starts.

 

[Kadey]

One moe spot foe weekly. Just join me in orbit before the party starts. No mic needed.

 

[shem935]

Running a nightfall if anyone wants to join. Shem0275 Psn

 

[Haybro]

I'd cleared VoG probably between 30-40 times before getting my first Corrective Measure a couple of weeks ago. Then of course, got it again last week.

Yeah, I finally got my first corrective measure last week. In fact, I think you were in the raid.

As for exotics, I just need the fourth horseman.

 

[Kadey]

SOB. Double post.

 

[AmateurHour212]

Lol. I guess I hit a nerve?

Terms that have been trademarked on DGAF:

NarmerHorn

NarmerQuest

 

[Liquidsnake]

Play for the fun. Loot is a bonus, when it comes.

How many hours do you have logged? Just curious. I'm at 840.

 

[Homeboyd]

My first exotic was a Gjallerhorn I got from a purple engram

1 vote to ban this man immediately. And Trance too while we're at it since he did the same damn thing.


Oh wait.

 

[LordofPwn]

This is a classier headline from Polygon:

Polygon with a more reasonable headline than GameInformer. I've now seen everything...

Also totally not gonna get delayed. i'm sure everyone over at bungie has dropped everything to combat this.