iRAWRasaurus
Banned
The whole pvp is a complete mess with too many nerfs, buffs and balance issues. Its wont change for the better or worst at this point.
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Destiny |OT23| This Train is Bound for Mercury
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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PewPewPewBow
Member
Doesn't the crucible vendor sell party crasher +1?
Edit: Nope, I'm wrong. He sells hard luck charm.
Still patently ridiculous IMO with its Exotic perk.
Twilight Gap
Member
more like bungie wont change it
nerf thorn
fix the last word
slightly rebalance the vex mythoclast
increase pulse rifle spread
tighten fusion rifle spread but keep range dropoff
buff auto rifle damage
buff scout rifle accuracy
increase shotgun range dropoff
increase blink cooldown
there. games perfect.
ThirtyPlus
Member
This is coming from someone who has played a ton of destiny but very little pvp...Destiny pvp is terrible.
I was turned off by it at the beginning by two things that still bother me to this day whenever I can motivate myself enough to play it for certain rewards.
1. Balance is out of wack. The difficulty of trying to balance weapons with PVE and PVP in mind still plagues this game to this day.
2. THE LAG. I have never played a multiplayer shooter in my life with worse hit registration and feedback. People dying up to two seconds after I've killed them is the most frustrating thing ever.
The worst part is, very rarely I'll have a game where everything just clicks and I feel like I can just barely glimpse the pvp experience (I think) they were trying to convey. What usually follows is several matches of the worst pvp games I've ever played and I swear it off forever again.
These opinions have nothing to do with how well I do in any given match. I've done poorly in matches that felt great and done well in games that felt like shit.
I was turned off by it at the beginning by two things that still bother me to this day whenever I can motivate myself enough to play it for certain rewards.
1. Balance is out of wack. The difficulty of trying to balance weapons with PVE and PVP in mind still plagues this game to this day.
2. THE LAG. I have never played a multiplayer shooter in my life with worse hit registration and feedback. People dying up to two seconds after I've killed them is the most frustrating thing ever.
The worst part is, very rarely I'll have a game where everything just clicks and I feel like I can just barely glimpse the pvp experience (I think) they were trying to convey. What usually follows is several matches of the worst pvp games I've ever played and I swear it off forever again.
These opinions have nothing to do with how well I do in any given match. I've done poorly in matches that felt great and done well in games that felt like shit.
Forerunner
Member
That makes sense though.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
yeah that would be a start however i am also considering the maps, supers, lags and everything else as a whole.
Twilight Gap
Member
nerfing just thorn isn't going to fix the game.
everyone will just use the last word afterwards.
nerf that and everyone will either start blinking with shotguns or just use the messenger or red death.
it's called weapon balance for a reason. thorn isn't the only reason the scale is off
firehawk12
Subete no aware
How could people want to nerf the Thorn when shotguns are the most broken weapon class in the game?
Hell, at least it requires some skill to even get the Thorn in the first place.
Hell, at least it requires some skill to even get the Thorn in the first place.
There is a difference between pvp and pve. Bungie didnt have to nerf it in pve. But it had to be nerfed in pvp.
Your playing against other people in pvp, so people demanding a more leveld playing field is to be expected.
Atleast for normal crucible. For iron banner where power is supose to mather, i wouldnt mind some guns/armo/levels being much better.
I was being sarcastic in response to someone saying everything else needs to be buffed and brought up to thorn.
Your post for balance seems pretty spot on.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Frankly I have a lack of faith in bungie to fix things. It took them a very long time to fix the heavy ammo bug and dailies not rewarding weapon Xp. And knowing them they will screw something up in the process.
this is like the post I would expect by someone who started playing the game a week ago! I mean... what.
Conventional wisdom was that Thorn used to suck. It didn't, but it was a finesse weapon that you had to build around. Yet I read pages and pages and pages about how it was shit, embarrassing, a worthless Exotic bounty, the #1 gun needing a buff and so on and so on and because of all the people crying it is now in the state it's in today, where it simply outclasses even the weapons that are closest to it in pure statistical reality- along with having a unique perk with advantages unavailable on those weapons anyway.
Should not the people who thought it sucked simply have figured out how to overcome the problem, rather than wanting to have it changed for them? If not, how is your view here even remotely consistent?
You can say "there will always be a weapon used by everyone" as though a "Thorn-like situation" is an unavoidable reality but I honestly don't have a clue what it is you are implying fit in that slot during the balance phase following the initial AR nerf but prior to the Thorn buff.
Hmm. What's the basis for increasing pulse spread?
They could fix that by making special ammo actually special. Like with quake, halv the battle is map controll to be able to get the ammo for the better weapons.
Its just dumb when u can run around with a special weapond like its your primary. Its not special anymore. U dont need to fight for it.
Twilight Gap
Member
the popular pulse rifles (Red Death and the Messenger) are two shot kills that stagger a player's aim. if we weren't being Last Worded up close and Thorned from far away, we'd all probably be spamming across the map with pulse rifles. Increasing their spread would put these weapons' effective ranges closer to autos and hand cannons, which gives both of those a fighting chance. Scouts would then edge out pulse rifles for the longer ranges.
rasengan1337
Member
yes, sir, i'm in MD.
Johan Liebert
Member
It's funny that they removed the ability to roll final round on HOW snipers but left shot package untouched and easier to roll than ever.
PewPewPewBow
Member
Hawkmoon > Thorn. Hawkmoon master race.
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I completed my cipher bounty today and been staring at my reward options for a while. Lord of Wolves or Queenbreakers' Bow?
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I completed my cipher bounty today and been staring at my reward options for a while. Lord of Wolves or Queenbreakers' Bow?
I think I would be ok with BR heaven.
I really like my Juju in pvp, its unfortunate I feel like I can't use it most of the time because intentionally handicapping (instead of using my TLW) and all that.
Twilight Gap
Member
hip firing with scouts was amazing during the beta. i wish destiny could have stayed like that but then the rest of the classes were unlocked and that went out the window.
DeeJ only likes Reddit
Twilight Gap
Member
I seem to recall Bungie mentioning that the netcode for Destiny is purposely accounting for latency, which is why the mutual kill window is so high. I don't understand why it lags so terribly though.
My favorite nerf is the Nerf Bow and Arrow.
what is the best perk roll for this
Everyday I visit Scuf gaming's website with the intention to either buy a controller or send mine for modification.
1) I click the modification part and go ahead
2) Man they are charging me nearly £70 to just attach two peddles and have the ability to reconfigure them
3) Checks the processing time...10-14 days...why? sot hat they can charge £15 for faster service.
Outcome: Not worth it
1) Head over to their new controller section
2) Why is controller which is essentially a DS4 with a different skin and two peddles £ 120? It doesn't even include the ability to reconfigure which is extra £20.
3) Processing time...same.
Outcome: Not worth it.
I really really do want this controller mod but it's so expensive ! Like even sending my own controller would cost me the price of two games wtf ??
1) I click the modification part and go ahead
2) Man they are charging me nearly £70 to just attach two peddles and have the ability to reconfigure them
3) Checks the processing time...10-14 days...why? sot hat they can charge £15 for faster service.
Outcome: Not worth it
1) Head over to their new controller section
2) Why is controller which is essentially a DS4 with a different skin and two peddles £ 120? It doesn't even include the ability to reconfigure which is extra £20.
3) Processing time...same.
Outcome: Not worth it.
I really really do want this controller mod but it's so expensive ! Like even sending my own controller would cost me the price of two games wtf ??
Perfect...patently ridiculous was exactly what I wanted...May try invective too.
FR sent. Shoot me an invite for IB if you see me on.
They were simpler times.
Blink did the most damage as far as having a decent mid-range play field.
IXIKelsonIXI
Member
I frequent both this thread and Reddit, and while I like both, you've got a point. Some shit makes the front page of the subreddit that makes me roll my eyes so hard they snap out of their sockets.
Your daughter learned to say "Get shit on" to some kids at school because she heard you play ToO? First of all, doubt it, second of all, cool story bro.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Another good day on the train with a clutch victory at the end. Rank 4 now.
Twilight Gap
Member
Shotguns need a damage dropoff. That, along with a cooldown to blink, will be fine. The special ammo changes clearly didn't work and neither will removing specials off of spawn.
He lurks but I don't think he'll post again.
Twilight Gap
Member
I remember one of the Halo 5 design leads saying that Blink was broken and ruined Destiny.
Quinn maybe?
Why would it not? I mean it's not a perfect bandage but I'm curious on your thoughts on it.
edit:
I haven't kept up with Halo 5 vidocs/dev comments but that is interesting to hear.
Still not a fan of putting sprint into Halo