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Destiny |OT3| Oh sweet a Legen- wait never mind, it's a rare.

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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
This. If there isn't any reward for doing anything at my level or close to it, I do the lowest difficulty I can. I have no shame in this. I've seen how difficult this game can be, so I respect it.
Well, the daily heroics do have boosted rewards for high level completes, but yes, I totally agree with your point about having no shame.

I think a lot of people right now expect Destiny to reward them for getting super frustrated. It's not really designed like that.
 
Man, I'm so tired of the way this game plays.

PvP.


Two whole classes of primaries are generally useless. Using a Scout Rifle or Hand Cannon is taboo. Auto Rifles are the only way for shitty players to win. All the high levels have these Auto Rifles that just kill you with one burst anywhere in your body while I have to pull off constant headshots with the Scout Rifle. The Pulse Rifle is the only rifle that I think is fine against the Auto Rifle, everything else is just useless.

The sniper rifles basically aim for you. I've never seen so much aim assist in a video game in my life. I could be doing back flips on this fucking game and they'll still headshot me.

I swear. They seriously need to do some changes to this game. Instead of constantly buffing the weapons, they need to weaken them and change the way they're used and the ways they work generally.
 
Do the daily heroics on a lower level so that you can still get the marks. :)

That is the one I was doing, Ishtar Collective if I recall correctly. I can tear through all the non-vex story missions at 20 but those minotaurs are OP!

You are talking about the story mission that appears on the left of the map right? Because that is what frustrated me yesterday. I thought the only level was 20.
 

Ramirez

Member
I swear the only true bullshit things in PVP are the long range fusion guns and blade dancer super. Pretty much everything else can be countered/avoided with proper map awareness and your own skill.

I also don't think you should get shields when reviving in 3v3. I'm not sure how the scoring works, but if you're revived, it shouldn't count as a kill for the other team, but reviving should be a real risk, so dump the shielding mechanic, imo.

I did not expect to love this games PVP, but here I am.
 
Farmed for countless hours, turned in about 15 legendary engrams.

Mostly blues, one shit scout rifle, gloves for another class and then...

Those are the ones Xur had last weekend, I didn't have enough strange coins. He better have something just as good for my Titan this weekend!!!
 
Huh, I just found out that Devil's Lair area connects to the Forgotten Shores.

There's a tunnel in the area where you have to defend the ghost against 3 waves of enemies. That is where the Hive mobs are coming from. There are level 20 Hive mobs, two wizards, and an Ogre inside of the tunnel.

I found this while doing patrol and remembered that tunnel from my time in the beta.
 

xMuku

Member
dude please.
When you're playing destiny and suddenly hit the level 24 plateau and you're told that you don't have high enough leveled gear to do the raid it sucks.

this isn't whiny bitching, it's about being able to play parts of the game you need higher level gear for and not being able to get it because of wonky game mechanics. see my other posts. a lot of people hit 24 and get stuck because what had worked for them the previous 24 levels suddenly stops working. I had to specifically change how I played the game and I had to do a lot of reading and figuring shit out to be able to get better gear.

it's not clear at all in the game on how to do this. look at the tons and tons of questions on these boards. a lot of people are confused and frustrated.

i'm enjoying the game overall but it's not perfect and some things could have clearly been done better or at least explained better.

The game mechanics aren't wonky. They introduce the Vanguard people at the start of the game, while it doesn't directly tell you "grind rep and then buy the gear with the marks you get" it is pretty obvious if you just talk to him and see his inventory and the rep bar.

It's easy to get past the 24 plateau by doing what the game wants you to do and grind for legendary gear through rep and marks. If you're getting upset over drops then blame the RNG Gods. If you want it quicker just play more, the game gives you three factions on top of the crucible and vanguard to choose from as well. Dailies, weeklys, strike playlist, bounties. Bungie has given you all the tools to get your gear.

Your level won't be stuck at 24 once you start getting legendaries, don't expect them from drops.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
However, I'm close to having vanguard rank 2 to just buy my legendaries.
We gotta move away from this mindset of "just buy" as though it's an alternative to the right way where you find them as drops.

Buying your first set (important distinction) of Legendary gear the intended path in this game. Random drops of endgame gear here and there are lucky shortcuts- not the route.

edit: I hope to prove this in a big old guide post shortly.
 
I feel your pain. Wife and kid at home means i can't carve out dedicated time to run through heroic weeklies and such.

Also stuck at 20 and I also got my ass kicked by those Minotaurs yesterday 3 times before giving up lol. However, I'm close to having vanguard rank 2 to just buy my legendaries.

That's my recommendation. Bounties, public events and daily heroic missions/strike playlist. I don't have time to waste farming for this crap.

Ahh, sorry for your troubles but it does feel good to not be alone. That is exactly what I am gonna do. I will be that level 20 guy running round earth and dominating all the public events! lol
 

NastyBook

Member
Fucking finally!!! A legendary engram turned into an Exotic Helmet!!! First non rare item!
And it was for your class? Nice. Congrats. I'm done with farming for now. Gonna max my Vanguard levels and buy the Purple gear. Get Strange Coins and MoL in the process, then buy my Exotic shit from Xur over the weekend.
 

PointBlank_V

Neo Member
Has anyone come up with an efficient method of gathering upgrade mats for Legendary/Exotic items ( Ascendant Energy, for instance) other than the dismantling of legendary gear ?
 
People are really too upset about the legendary loot not falling from the sky. I get the engram problem, but really, you know you can get high faction rank super quick by just doing bounties? I'm level 23, 40+ hours, and have not gotten a single legendary engram, and that's absolutely fine. How it should be, even. Calm down, gearing for a raid shouldn't really take a week from release.

I'm totally fine with legendaries being incredibly rare; it's just that the game defeats its own carrot on a stick design by making it possible to get lower-tier gear from engrams. Dangle the carrot, sure; don't swat me in the nuts with it when I get close though.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Has anyone come up with an efficient method of gathering upgrade mats for Legendary/Exotic items ( Ascendant Energy, for instance) other than the dismantling of legendary gear ?
Dismantling legendary gear you don't need to improve your prized equipment is going to be a big part of endgame
 

Navy Bean

Member
Do the daily heroics on a lower level so that you can still get the marks. :)

Is there matchmaking for the daily heroics? If not, can they be reasonably completed solo?

Beyond the fact that not a single person has responded to an invite I've sent, I simply don't have the time to wait for a group to get together. This game is not friendly to those with a newborn at home... (not a complaint - no game is friendly to those with a newborn at home lol).
 
We gotta move away from this mindset of "just buy" as though it's an alternative to the right way where you find them as drops.

Buying your first set (important distinction) of Legendary gear the intended path in this game. Random drops of endgame gear here and there are lucky shortcuts- not the route.
Yes, please. It's as if people are intent on going about things one way, even though there's a perfectly simple other way to do things, and then getting angry when their way (which relies heavily on RNG) doesn't favor them.

Since you can earn Vanguard or Faction ranks and marks through playing, you're not stuck just because your farming comes up empty. Nothing is preventing you from earning the currencies you need to upgrade your gear.
 
I swear the only true bullshit things in PVP are the long range fusion guns and blade dancer super. Pretty much everything else can be countered/avoided with proper map awareness and your own skill.

I also don't think you should get shields when reviving in 3v3. I'm not sure how the scoring works, but if you're revived, it shouldn't count as a kill for the other team, but reviving should be a real risk, so dump the shielding mechanic, imo.

I did not expect to love this games PVP, but here I am.

it definitely needs tweaks and there are lots of things they can do to balance it. it's otherwise great when it's working.

i'd rather there not be overshields at all.
 
I'm totally fine with legendaries being incredibly rare; it's just that the game defeats its own carrot on a stick design by making it possible to get lower-tier gear from engrams. Dangle the carrot, sure; don't swat me in the nuts with it when I get close though.

lol well said.

that is the main mechanic they need to change ASAP. You should not get a blue armor piece from a legendary engrem.

Mats sure, but not something useless.
 

DesertFox

Member
The game mechanics aren't wonky. They introduce the Vanguard people at the start of the game, while it doesn't directly tell you "grind rep and then buy the gear with the marks you get" it is pretty obvious if you just talk to him and see his inventory and the rep bar.

It's easy to get past the 24 plateau by doing what the game wants you to do and grind for legendary gear through rep and marks. If you're getting upset over drops then blame the RNG Gods. If you want it quicker just play more, the game gives you three factions on top of the crucible and vanguard to choose from as well. Dailies, weeklys, strike playlist, bounties. Bungie has given you all the tools to get your gear.

Your level won't be stuck at 24 once you start getting legendaries, don't expect them from drops.
Yep, this. I've given up on wishing for the lottery, and instead going the slow and steady route by getting the rep, and being able to pick and choose what legendaries I'll receive rather than cross my fingers while the Cryptarch squeezes open a purple gusher.
just for it to be something useless
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it definitely needs tweaks and there are lots of things they can do to balance it. it's otherwise great when it's working.

i'd rather there not be overshields at all.

That'd neutralize 2/3 of the Defender Titan's abilities, though. Besides, the shields work the same as any other PvE shield; weak to the same color.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
That is the one I was doing, Ishtar Collective if I recall correctly. I can tear through all the non-vex story missions at 20 but those minotaurs are OP!

You are talking about the story mission that appears on the left of the map right? Because that is what frustrated me yesterday. I thought the only level was 20.
You're right, I apologize :( I figured you were trying it at higher than 20.

If you ask in this thread or try (www.destinylfg.com), you're very likely to get help!
Yes, please. It's as if people are intent on going about things one way, even though there's a perfectly simple other way to do things, and then getting angry when their way (which relies heavily on RNG) doesn't favor them.

Since you can earn Vanguard or Faction ranks and marks through playing, you're not stuck just because your farming comes up empty. Nothing is preventing you from earning the currencies you need to upgrade your gear.
Unexpected favorite thing: Destiny is teaching me a lot about the psychology of game design
Don't need my Bladedancer until you nerf titans. Fucking 3 shields? Really?
arc blade against a fully shielded titan is the most pathetic feeling ever :<
 

Tawpgun

Member
I don't really find any of the supers OP aside from maybe the Sunsinger. That thing has so much going for it and you basically need it for high level PvE
 
We gotta move away from this mindset of "just buy" as though it's an alternative to the right way where you find them as drops.

Buying your first set (important distinction) of Legendary gear the intended path in this game. Random drops of endgame gear here and there are lucky shortcuts- not the route.

edit: I hope to prove this in a big old guide post shortly.

"First Set" perhaps, but we're complaining about "First Piece". I don't want shortcut drops, but a-taste-of drops. Just enough to let me test them and take a peek before buying.
 
Did some Vanguard Strikes and got enough marks to buy another piece of Legendary armor. A Legendary Engram also dropped in one of the strikes and turned out to be a Legendary Machine Gun. Awesome!
 

PointBlank_V

Neo Member
Dismantling legendary gear you don't need to improve your prized equipment is going to be a big part of endgame

I was afraid of that being the answer.. However this stuff is hard to come by and the price for upgrading your most prized exotic stuff too high, atm. I'm up for that challenge but it gathering around 30 Ascendants is definitely a b*tch
 

Homeboyd

Member
what kind of engram is this? if it becomes blue when I decode it , i'm going to quit Destiny :/
It's an exotic, not sure about the type (weapon, class, etc..), but yes, it can become blue, purple or yellow and it can also give you gear for another class. So, there's that.

I thought exotics could only turn into exotics, but someone here said otherwise. So I don't know.
 
You're right, I apologize :( I figured you were trying it at higher than 20.

If you ask in this thread or try (www.destinylfg.com), you're very likely to get help!

Thanks! I have bookmarked this so I can find peeps when I have more time to do the longer missions. :)

My main problem is I am now stuck at 20 and have 12 light. I haven't had any items with light drop since the day I hit 20. Gotta just keep plugging away I guess. RNGesus hates me though. He did with vanilla D3 too
which this really reminds me of loot wise
. :(
 
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