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Destiny |OT8| Whine and Cheese

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EL CUCO

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Yeah but it's a pvp event. Just seems odd to host a PvP Event just so we can get raped by raiders with Vex mythos.

Yeah they nerfed the Vex which made IB playable sure. But it was too late. Was so pissed at Bungie [edit]

This would've been prevented with proper matchmaking. If the Crucible/IB would pair you with others around the same level, it could've helped with everyone's frustrations.

Why Bungie hasn't realized this is beyond me. They do it for strikes, why not PVP?
 
Are there spots open in any active GAF clans?
I had some more time this weekend so I did some power sessions and got my Titan up to lvl 21 and started working the Strike play lists. I don't have lots of time during the week but I'd love to get with a GAF clan so I'm ot always with Randoms. I finally got some good loot yesterday as well. Pretty much have rare for all my weapons and armor now. I really enjoyed all the strikes I did.
 

Tovarisc

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Meh, I don't think him teleporting random people is RNG. I mean I guess it technically is but I don't see how that mechanic should be grouped with the RNG of the loot system. I think the random teleports will make the fight more interesting. It's a little too rinse/repeat right now. Random teleports aren't that bad either, they just require a little extra coordination and communication since everyone can't be assigned to only ONE role anymore.

I'm pretty sure every boss roams around aside from the Vex stationary turret enemies. Dunno why thats a problem.

RNG is term used about mechanics over which player has zero control over. Game randomly teleporting 3 players [or just 2 at times, wanna bet?] without player controlling event at all makes it RNG.

Have you been in Atheon fight? That arena is designed so that if Atheon is free to roam [read: raid is spread out] he can very very easily disconnect line of sight of multiple players to him => a lot wasted damage buff nuke.

Also strike bosses either are stationary or body tanked so they stay in one spot while group drills to weak spot until boss dies.
 

benjammin

Member
I am doing a 28 weekly Strike on my Hunter and on my Warlock. Join me if you like on PS4. Game is open to the public.

PSN: College_Boy

Ugh, I'd love to run it before the reset but I won't be home for another 4 hours. I'll add you and maybe we can run it around 5:30 est if you're still interested
 

patchday

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This would've been prevented with proper matchmaking. If the Crucible/IB would pair you with others around the same level, it could've helped with everyone's frustrations.

Why Bungie hasn't realized this is beyond me. They do it for strikes, why not PVP?

Ah that's a much better solution
 
There should be another iron banner event now that Bungie nerfed the vex. I played 2 games then left because it was bs. I want the level 3 shader
 

davis929

Neo Member
Level 28 and Level 27 Sunsinger Warlocks looking for a group for a first time play thru of the normal Raid tonight, 7pm EST, on PS4.

PSN: davis929 and Consuerco
 
Meh, I don't think him teleporting random people is RNG. I mean I guess it technically is but I don't see how that mechanic should be grouped with the RNG of the loot system. I think the random teleports will make the fight more interesting. It's a little too rinse/repeat right now. Random teleports aren't that bad either, they just require a little extra coordination and communication since everyone can't be assigned to only ONE role anymore.

I'm pretty sure every boss roams around aside from the Vex stationary turret enemies. Dunno why thats a problem.

we don't know how the random teleports will work out. Let's wait and see before we judge
 

SighFight

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Level 28 and Level 27 Sunsinger Warlocks looking for a group for a first time play thru of the normal Raid tonight, 7pm EST, on PS4.

PSN: davis929 and Consuerco

Send you request on psn. DonHammerGonzo would also join. ( not on GAF)

With him,Righty10, you and me that would make 5 already.
 

Bizazedo

Member
Bungie are not going to limit how Titan's, or any of the other classes, play by making the current exotics obsolete. None of the upcoming exotics even have the same or more perks than the current ones, they are not meant to be replacements, they are meant to be additions, so that players are more able to specialise. What's likely to happen, is that those materials someone posted a few pages back will be added to the game, so that if Raid gear in the future is of a higher level, you can use those materials to upgrade your exotics.
I hope you're right, additional grind not withstanding. I really do. I'd like to say I believe Bungie will let us "keep" and upgrade existing Exotics.

In other games, though, even Legendaries usually become garbage tier, despite being special, so I don't exactly have the faith in it yet.

Again, I hope I'm wrong.

In normal Crucible level 30 has 0% advantage over level 1 when it comes to e.g. toughness. Only stats on weapons matter to certain extent.

In IB level was advertised to matter a lot, but in the end it was just normal Crucible with fancy name and exclusive vendor with pathetic stock.

Yes, but unrelated to your main point (which I agree with)...I leveled up a new Warlock to 25 and holy shit is the Crucible unfair for true newbies. I had kept a level 14 Shingen-E and I'm glad I did. All the abilities and high tier weapons / gear bonuses really do make it so Crucible is nowhere close to fair.

It's not insurmountable (I saw a level 5 who was obviously better than me shredding with a scout rifle), but in general your weaponry will not be better.
 

Mindlog

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At the risk of putting a very valuable resource in jeopardy.
Some of us can convert 6250 glimmer for the armor crafting material of our choice. This is incredibly helpful for alts. I wish the game was more direct about something like this instead of the sluggish chore that exists now. Please make this change.
 

blackflag

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I wish I could control remote at on vita with the DS4...my daughter and I ae home sick. Perfect time to level my last class, but she wants to watch backyardigans...

Tried playing with the vita but I can't aim and am not agile with that thing. I kept dying on regular story missions.
 

Tawpgun

Member
RNG is term used about mechanics over which player has zero control over. Game randomly teleporting 3 players [or just 2 at times, wanna bet?] without player controlling event at all makes it RNG.

Have you been in Atheon fight? That arena is designed so that if Atheon is free to roam [read: raid is spread out] he can very very easily disconnect line of sight of multiple players to him => a lot wasted damage buff nuke.

Also strike bosses either are stationary or body tanked so they stay in one spot while group drills to weak spot until boss dies.


Atheon is similar to Archon priest and Phogoth. He roams around a little. Even with the bubble strat his weak point is sometimes out of view. That's the main reason why it makes sense to have players at different locations to make sure fire is always on him. The bubble strat devolves Atheon into a single repetetive strategy.
 

Skooky

Neo Member
This may be a dumb question, but what do you care about raid level gear if you aren't doing the raid? Level 30 gear is meaningless otherwise.

Why do you even want special gear from PvE then? You beat the raid before you were level 30 so what's the point in achieving level 30?
 

blackflag

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Atheon is similar to Archon priest and Phogoth. He roams around a little. Even with the bubble strat his weak point is sometimes out of view. That's the main reason why it makes sense to have players at different locations to make sure fire is always on him. The bubble strat devolves Atheon into a single repetetive strategy.

The bubble was meant to block incoming fire and it's the safest way. It's not cheese and was designed that way. Yeah it's easy and boring but oh well. I'm not going to do it the harder way just because.
 

M3Freak

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Are there spots open in any active GAF clans?
I had some more time this weekend so I did some power sessions and got my Titan up to lvl 21 and started working the Strike play lists. I don't have lots of time during the week but I'd love to get with a GAF clan so I'm ot always with Randoms. I finally got some good loot yesterday as well. Pretty much have rare for all my weapons and armor now. I really enjoyed all the strikes I did.

Dude, I'll play with you. Let's get Kittonwy and some of the old R:FoM guys in on this action! :p

We should just make a new clan: got any ideas for a name? If you want to join a GAF clan, just search for them on Bungie's site. You can't join the "main" clan because clans have a member limit. You'll have to join one of the GAF sub-clans. This is why I'm saying we should just start a new one.
 

Tovarisc

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Atheon is similar to Archon priest and Phogoth. He roams around a little. Even with the bubble strat his weak point is sometimes out of view. That's the main reason why it makes sense to have players at different locations to make sure fire is always on him. The bubble strat devolves Atheon into a single repetetive strategy.

Ok, so you don't like this one and bulletproof tactic to kill him? That is fine, but what I don't get is why you would take piss into everyone cereal and take that tactic away from everyone just because you find it boring?

You should be able to form few viable tactics for each boss while restricting everyone to single "way it's intended" tactic is poor design and that makes for bad experience. Now you can use "Let boss roam" -tactic if you choose to, but so you can use "All under bubble, one spot and nuke" -tactic.

Your relic suggestion would kill variety of tactics from Atheon.
 
Atheon is similar to Archon priest and Phogoth. He roams around a little. Even with the bubble strat his weak point is sometimes out of view. That's the main reason why it makes sense to have players at different locations to make sure fire is always on him. The bubble strat devolves Atheon into a single repetetive strategy.

Then play with people who don't bother with that strategy if you hate it so much. No need to ruin it for everyone else.
 
Do you honestly think a fusion rifle should one shot someone from like 20-30ft away?

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M3Freak

Banned
I wish I could control remote at on vita with the DS4...my daughter and I ae home sick. Perfect time to level my last class, but she wants to watch backyardigans...

Tried playing with the vita but I can't aim and am not agile with that thing. I kept dying on regular story missions.

It's not as easy as it is with the DS4, that's for sure. But, I found remote playing Destiny to be really, really good! I haven't tried any PVP, but PVE has been fantastic.

The one thing I can't figure out is how to do "R2". I compare weapons and armour all the time. When I remote play, I can't do that because there is no "R2" and the R2 soft button mapped to the touchscreen won't do it either. However, if I'm running around the environment, the soft R2 works just fine. WTF. It must be a bug.
 

E92 M3

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Except Bladedancer, buff that shit!

YES! I want to be fucking Grey Fox when I'm playing as a blade dancer. Hallways filled with death and destruction.

Do you honestly think a fusion rifle should one shot someone from like 20-30ft away?

Yeah, I don't have too many problems with fusion rifles - not enough people know how to use them skillfully. Plus, I can hear them charging up. Nerfing weapons makes a game boring and dull.
 

Mindlog

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Also: One of the best investments you can when you are starting to raid is a void fusion rifle. 77 Wizard has a longer warmup time, but its accuracy means you can engage earlier anyway. Light Beware is a great choice if you can find it in void.

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My smoothest runs almost always skip the bubble shield on Atheon. Too often splash damage gets someone killed and scattering as vengeance runs out can be dicey. Keeping everyone at their positions usually means supplicants are more thoroughly mopped up and no damage time is lost hopping to the platform.
 
Looking for 3 more for Normal raid on PS4, going for completion start to finish today. We are all new to it except for one of us that has only done the raid once.

We are beginning at 2 EST (10mins), and are looking for hunters of another defender Titan!

So far we have:
1- Myself (blewjayy on PSN) - Lvl 27 Warlock Sunsinger
2 -Inaper - Lvl 27 Titan Defender
3- pranoy10 - Lvl 27 Warlock Sunsinger
4- ???
5- ???
6- ???

Add me up if you don't already have me on your friends list and join in!
 

EL CUCO

Member
Yeah, I don't have too many problems with fusion rifles - not enough people know how to use them skillfully. Plus, I can hear them charging up. Nerfing weapons makes a game boring and dull.

Same here. If I do get one shotted by it, it's because I wasn't paying attention.
 

Angry Guy

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Sh*t! I just realized I misread the timezone. I thought you wrote GMT... Sorry but at. 7 PM EST we will probably be asleep. I am sorry.

Yo, SighFight, if you're doing a raid soonish I'm down for it. I'm pretty experienced with it but I still need to do it on my Titan.
 

kirby2096

Member
Looking for 3 more for Normal raid on PS4, going for completion start to finish today. We are all new to it except for one of us that has only done the raid once.

We are beginning at 2 EST (10mins), and are looking for hunters of another defender Titan!

So far we have:
1- Myself (blewjayy on PSN) - Lvl 27 Warlock Sunsinger
2 -Inaper - Lvl 27 Titan Defender
3- pranoy10 - Lvl 27 Warlock Sunsinger
4- ???
5- ???
6- ???

Add me up if you don't already have me on your friends list and join in!

Me please , 28 titan. Psn: kirby2096
 

Booties

Banned
RNG is term used about mechanics over which player has zero control over. Game randomly teleporting 3 players [or just 2 at times, wanna bet?] without player controlling event at all makes it RNG.

Have you been in Atheon fight? That arena is designed so that if Atheon is free to roam [read: raid is spread out] he can very very easily disconnect line of sight of multiple players to him => a lot wasted damage buff nuke.

Also strike bosses either are stationary or body tanked so they stay in one spot while group drills to weak spot until boss dies.


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Ok, so you don't like this one and bulletproof tactic to kill him? That is fine, but what I don't get is why you would take piss into everyone cereal and take that tactic away from everyone just because you find it boring?

You should be able to form few viable tactics for each boss while restricting everyone to single "way it's intended" tactic is poor design and that makes for bad experience. Now you can use "Let boss roam" -tactic if you choose to, but so you can use "All under bubble, one spot and nuke" -tactic.

Your relic suggestion would kill variety of tactics from Atheon.

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Then play with people who don't bother with that strategy if you hate it so much. No need to ruin it for everyone else.

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