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Destiny |OT8| Whine and Cheese
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Yeah, let's take away legitimate strategies now.
Entire game has to be RNG then huh? I might be trading this in sooner than I thought.
scarletham
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Neuro
Member
Destiny servers seem to be down yet again... this is the 2nd time this week...Come on man, dont make your game always online if you cant handle stuff...
That is so stupid.
IF you like rocket launchers in general in Destiny, I recommend you keep one decent Void and Arc in your arsenal in addition. They really do mondo damage to bosses during burns.
Kor of Memory
Member
So lets take a second to talk about this:
And by this, I mean the perk: Armor Piercing Rounds.
Naturally, when I first unlocked this ability, I assumed (as most of you probably did) that it meant that I can shoot through one enemy into another. This is true, you can do this. You'll see other weapons out there with the same perk. I've personally found a Fusion Rifle and an Auto Rifle with the same perk.
However, this perk seems to impact Sniper in a way that the other weapons do not benefit from. Namely: IT CAN SHOOT THROUGH WALLS!
I've been getting a lot of messages lately about my hacking skills in Crucible. You see, I play a lot of control, and it's become very easy to defend a point from a mile away, when you can shoot through walls. Naturally, windows are my favorite. I can shoot directly into C from the B turret on First Light. I can shoot through the Rock providing cover at B on Shores of Time, if I'm behind the heavy ammo spawn.
I was planning on uploading a video for you guys to see this, but my PS4 isn't cooperating. Now, I'm not sure if Snipers are supposed to be able to do this or not. I can tell you that it is incredibly fun standing outside the window at A on the Moon, dancing at the enemy in an effort to make them dance as well, only to then pop them right in the head through the wall.
Now with Video:
http://youtu.be/kMeRQgvlsa8
Highlights at:
6:10
8:15
11:35
Very sorry about video quality.
And by this, I mean the perk: Armor Piercing Rounds.
Naturally, when I first unlocked this ability, I assumed (as most of you probably did) that it meant that I can shoot through one enemy into another. This is true, you can do this. You'll see other weapons out there with the same perk. I've personally found a Fusion Rifle and an Auto Rifle with the same perk.
However, this perk seems to impact Sniper in a way that the other weapons do not benefit from. Namely: IT CAN SHOOT THROUGH WALLS!
I've been getting a lot of messages lately about my hacking skills in Crucible. You see, I play a lot of control, and it's become very easy to defend a point from a mile away, when you can shoot through walls. Naturally, windows are my favorite. I can shoot directly into C from the B turret on First Light. I can shoot through the Rock providing cover at B on Shores of Time, if I'm behind the heavy ammo spawn.
I was planning on uploading a video for you guys to see this, but my PS4 isn't cooperating. Now, I'm not sure if Snipers are supposed to be able to do this or not. I can tell you that it is incredibly fun standing outside the window at A on the Moon, dancing at the enemy in an effort to make them dance as well, only to then pop them right in the head through the wall.
Now with Video:
http://youtu.be/kMeRQgvlsa8
Highlights at:
6:10
8:15
11:35
Very sorry about video quality.
joecanada
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Meh even if he did I'd probably pass for my steel oracle and grim citizen, cant be bothered to level again
Makes sense now that everyone has one. Maybe this is their secret to fixing the "economy". Make us spend our coins on shit that will then get nerfed, so we have to spend more coins on the next best thing.
everyday math
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You came up with new strategies? Denied!
Vince DiCola
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I'm looking to join a raid group on Xbox One. I'm available to play from about an hours time and able to play for 6 or so hours.
Having no luck on destinylfg so I'm reaching out to Gaf.
Never ran the Raid but I'm a good player, have a headset and I'm a level 28 voidwalker
Having no luck on destinylfg so I'm reaching out to Gaf.
Never ran the Raid but I'm a good player, have a headset and I'm a level 28 voidwalker
I can see it now.
"Shooting at bosses behind cover with an infinite ammo sniper isn't our vision for how Destiny is played. No backpack is being replaced by a stability perk."
Exactly what I was thinking... Bungie, please don't take all of our fun away.
ice breaker would still be an amazing exotic without the ability to provide infinite ammo to any special weapon in your inventory.
Seriously. There's plenty of stuff I could do on my own offline and it wouldn't take away from the "experience."
Subtervotion
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4 weeks of raiding and no VoC for me yet
In fact, my very first raid weapon drop was the Vex Mythoclast last week.
RNG hates me
Got mine a day before the nerf went live. So much fun in the crucible and raid.
Players still quit if they see you using the Vex in pvp.
Its all anecdotal. Im personally waiting on Atheons Epilogue. Its super common but I dont have it yet. I have every other normal raid weapon.
Jack Scofield
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This has probably because a top priority over at Bungie right now. Next week's update: "We wanted the end battle for Vault of Glass to feel like an actual battle. Now, if you defeat Atheon too quickly, we'll boot your entire team to orbit and randomly dismantle a piece of gear."
EDIT: Luke's quote from that Kotaku article:
Haha, I specifically remember an episode of 1UP Yours where a guy from Shadowrun used this exact same example when talking about the game, and the guys would not stop making fun of him (can't remember if Luke made fun of this, too, or just Garnet). Funny how things change!
I'd take dat Gjallahorn. I'm upset I passed the first time, though I had enough coins.
Please have the Last Word though
Kalamari
Member
If that was their goal from the beginning, why didn't they design it that way? RNG seems pretty strong in the rest of the game, did they forget to add it to the Atheon encounter?
Didn't know there was a do and don't list for this raid.
I didn't realize that what seemed like a completely valid strategy was an 'exploit'. :-/
Like really, how difficult was it to determine that the three people who are the farthest from Atheon are the ones who are getting teleported? Then, wouldn't it make sense to plan around that?
smh
Xbox clan is official now. Now just don't ditch me the next time you are raiding.
Neuro
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PSN seems to be working Destiny on the other hand well no luck....anyway have been looking for people to play with am terribly bored of doing the vangaurd strikes....anyone there for nightfall, VOG or Heroic at 27-28?
I am a Lv 27 voidwalker fully upgraded with a decent sunsinger upgrade as well... PSN id niles2812
scarletham
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njd_online
Banned
everyday math
Banned
Does Bungie have a testing team? Feels like we're the testers.
The amount of stuff Bungie didn't think players would do for this raid is getting pretty long.
And your right I thought we were supposed to do that. Didn't even think that was a cheese strat.
TalentBurke
Member
I was all-set to argue with you, but then I realized he was discussing changing the way Atheon currently works....and you're right.
It's OKAY to have the raid randomly pick people to teleport. That's fine. That's less telling you how to play and more just, y'know, making an encounter. The raid currently picks the three farthest, though, and that seems intentional.
But, here? Atheon? Seeing people develop strategies to it and nerfing / changing it for....what reasons? Luke's seem pretty invalid and it really does seem like he / Bungie are annoyed VoG is getting crushed as fast as it is.
Raids need rules or challenges. In principle, having an encounter randomly pick three to teleport is not a bad thing.
What's bad here is that it's a current encounter with no indication it was bugged. It seemed logical and part of the challenge to have the teams be ready and strategize around the 3 farthest people.
It's very akin to the "Our bosses are bullet sponges? From Alpha and Beta, to? Oh, WE FOUND A BUG" bullshit from earlier. It doesn't make sense.
It's getting downright embarrassing for them. Probably in both ways, how fast "THIS RAID IS HARDEST EVER 14 HOURS LOLOMG" it actually fell and was put on farm status and how many things they missed.
ComputerMKII
Banned
Fuck Bungie a thousand times. I'm repeating myself there, but they really have no clue how to make an enjoyable game. Even a difficult game like Dark Souls lets players cheese its bosses and exploit its flaws.
I'm out if they do this. Kill that noise, Bungie.
scarletham
Member
VoG was much more fun than I expected, and now I see why - it wasn't actually as they intended.
I am sure they will revert it back eventually, but as of right now it sucks balls.
If anymore weapons get nerfed, I'm just going to quit.
I will not be fan of that change. Best to hurry up and get that no-death achievement from the raid. Unfortunately, I feel like it will haunt me for quite a while.
"Gotta keep them playing until December...uh, add more fuckery!"
super-famicom
Member
My dislike for Bungie grows more by the day.
I'm somewhat encouraged that it sounds like they might try some raid-like (ie actually interesting) mechanics elsewhere in the game in future content. But the excuse that normal missions sets aren't presented linearly enough to teach any mechanics in them is crazy. There are absolutely mission chains in the campaign that could include stuff like "here's how a portal works so now we can expect you to know how it'll work later!"
Doomshroom
Member
Who cares? The encounter would be more fun if you are just not stuck to one job. I think its a good change.
EroticSushi
Member
What are they doing..? They better pump that DLC out fast if they want this game to survive that long. Guess after all their patches this game is going to run entirely on RNG.
Subtervotion
Member
Bungie stahp. Seriously. People are having fun. It doesnt matter what you want. It matters what the community wants. Make a game for the players. Remember when Epic tried to change Gears? It blew up in their face. How about you fix bugs and glitches first?
Didn't know there was a do and don't list for this raid.
LMFAO That gif is fucking perfect. What the hell are these guys thinking? Should they have released this game to the public? It really seems like they want a game that only they would enjoy.Yeah, let's take away legitimate strategies now.
Yap, read it, amazing interview, enjoyed it a lot.
I think his reasoning is totally alright. If you don't know who gets teleported there is more panic and you need to speak out more clearly what exactly is going on. Also there is his great point about everyone in the team being able to master every part of the raid.
scarletham
Member
You can switch jobs currently - that's the whole point. The encounter is more fun being able to strategize and decide what job everybody does.
I've found that it's the best HMG, at least that I've found so far (I think I have 5 or so different ones). It's so accurate, it's more like a heavy auto rifle. I'll have to disagree with you about how fast it takes down oracles. Nothing is faster imo.
I get this feeling too. Prior to release how many times did we hear that the Vault of Glass was 'the hardest challenge that we [Bungie] ever created'. We heard that they brought in experienced Raid groups to come in and playtest and they played for hours and days and still never cleared it.
Then on Sept. 16th the day it released, it get's crushed by Primeguard. After that, more groups start to clear it and like all good Raids, strats get developed and fine tuned, and then more groups clear.
Back to my original point, I feel as though Bungie thought the VoG was going to be a much harder challenge, akin to WoW's Raids. IIRC, some of their Raids didn't get cleared for literal months, and I think that was somewhat what Bungie was hoping for.
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