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Destiny |OT8| Whine and Cheese
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Darryl M R
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could never
Yup, either way I'm tired of it nao
AmateurHour212
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I'm having the exact same issue. Can get to character selection screen but that's it.
It most definitely is a PSN problem
https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/237/~/psn-status:-online
https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/237/~/psn-status:-online
I guess I just consider what is a bug differently then. If someone figured out some way to accomplish something I considered incorrect or to circumvent the workflow in a way I don't intend in one of my applications with the tools I gave them it is a bug. My application is doing something I don't want my users to do and that I didn't consider in testing. So I need to go fix it.
Subtervotion
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I understand what you mean. Bungie could realistically make it better and more fun. My main point is that there are more important things such as legit glitches (portals, relic shield AOE) that need fixing first and foremost. It also really grinds my gears when a developer changes things that work just fine. An incredibly small percentage of players might be saying "Oh man, I wish the teleportation really was random!" Most people don't care and we are having fun with that part of the Raid as is.
To be completely honest its my favorite part of the Raid.
Final point: Do it right the first time Bungie.
FloatingDivider
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Roxy Raye plays Destiny
I don't think she knows what she's invited upon herself by giving out her gamertag on twitter.
Jest Chillin
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Well, I mean, just be discouraged thenI guess their testers simply didn't figure it out, and they dubbed it good enough. Nothing in his language whatsoever indicates it's a bug.
Eh.. the fact that Luke speaks to his own groups attempt and clear being done without knowing how the teleport works seems to suggest that they didn't intentionally design it to specifically pick the players furthest away. It could be considered a bug in that manner. I would hope that it wasn't a rogue programmer who simply decided "this is the way I'll write this mechanic to work even though it wasn't explicitly designed to work this way."
Haha, it only took them a couple hours to update the page.
I really hope they don't up the level cap at all :-[ add new methods of getting armor with chosen stat arrays that can get you to 30, new interesting exotics to choose from, ideally new subclasses. invalidating all of our earned gear at this point is so boring and played out. even if there's demand for it I hope they don't cave in to pressure to raise it.
daaamn that's the closest control match i've ever seen.
i dunno, Figs is in charge.
I'm confused, did that segment actually indicate anything other than that Luke himself didn't program that aspect of the fight?
super-famicom
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I had a similar game a couple of weeks ago. We were down by a few thousand and ended up winning by 50 or so. I could taste the tears of the opposing team.
Jest Chillin
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He's the design lead for the raid. So I would assume that if they had intended something so specific to happen, he would've been aware of it. If they didn't intend the mechanic to specifically teleport players furthest away, I don't know why a programmer would take such a liberty as whether or not it works that way intrinsically changes the experience.
So satisfying. Darthbob and I had a game like that as well
was a 10 or 11 kill comeback at least, led by bob of course. you don't typically see the losing team finish over 10000 in Clash. but a margin of 5 in control, dang.
Kor of Memory
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I'm not entirely sure I agree with you, and I'm pretty sure the general public doesn't agree with you. They need to see the rewards for their activities laid out in front.
For instance, if I have a bounty that wants me to play a specific mission, which one am I going to choose? Assuming the level of the mission doesn't offer me anything different?
You bet your ass I'm going to choose the level 12 version over the level 20 version. Because it lets me complete my objective faster, and in the most efficient way. Players flock to effeciency, it's where the loot cave came about in the first place.
Yep, it's on. (Unless I find a better group, naturally).
Rahool still up to his tricks I see. Get a legendary boots engram, decrypts into the boots I already have. Get the Ice Breaker for completing nightfall. That is awesome I got an exotic for it, but guess what I already bought last week?
I know it is RNGesus at work, but Rahool is his emissary so my ire is directed toward him.
I know it is RNGesus at work, but Rahool is his emissary so my ire is directed toward him.
I will agree that changing the raid mechanic at this point is dumb, especially because it's totally fine as it is, but it's not a big deal. What IS a big deal is prioritizing this "fix" over other, more serious issues with the game, so I agree with that.
TheTylerDurden
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All I can say to that is if Xur ever sells an exotic 'bag of doorknobs', I'm buying it to show to Rahool. He seems to understand that move.
That's a fair interpretation, I just think your assumption goes a little too far; there's too much information we don't have about the design ethos or what role he had in minute aspects of individual encounters like that at all.
the combination of the fact that he absolutely does not state that it is a bug and the nature of the behavior being so consistent and only occasionally functioning outside of a very strict rule leads me to believe it was completely intentional design. either way, I don't think their intended goal for the fight is irrational, it makes a lot of sense to me, though I don't have any problems with the current way it is either.
FloatingDivider
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Everything in this game was designed without regard for human nature. I enjoy shooting level 20 something dudes that might pose a challenge more than I enjoy shooting lvl 8 "dregs". Yet they both give the same weapon xp, the same loot, and complete the same bounties so I'm just going to shoot the level 8 ones. Especially in a game where RNGsus reigns supreme and the only way to guarantee the endorphin rush I need to keep playing it, is to force the game to roll a ridiculous amount of times by just steamrolling all of the content that's completely trivial to me.
Furtermore this is aided by the fact that everything, and I do mean everything is a grind, and the easiest and most efficient way to clear that grind is to do the low level content. It all seems mindboggling to me.
Furtermore this is aided by the fact that everything, and I do mean everything is a grind, and the easiest and most efficient way to clear that grind is to do the low level content. It all seems mindboggling to me.
figadapaura
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AmateurHour212
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I'd agree that that would be a big deal, but can we point to where it is indicated that Bungie intends such a prioritization? Where are we getting this from? Actually neither the words "glitch" nor "bug" even appear in that Kotaku interview, maybe we should be talking about that?
Yep. It's looking like I may not make it. Hopefully it's up before then.
My thoughts exactly. PSN seems to be down more now than it was when it was free.
You need to practice your cheese skills anyway. The amount of time you take misterthirsty will be turned into dust and I'll be melted into a puddle
BananasWithGuns
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Vanguard Tiger playlist is probably your best bet at this point, assuming you're of capable level.
You can average around 2-3 blue engrams per strike, sometimes more. Also a chance of a legendary engram or an exotic item at the end of each strike. If you have Radiant Light from completing the Nightfall then all those engrams will essentially power level your Cryptarch which gives you a chance at legendary engrams every level.
Maybe there's a better way but if I was going to explicitly try to farm legendary stuff that's probably the route I would take.
You shouldn't, though. That way lies despair :/
FloatingDivider
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We have a winner, a few hours of striking will have you running out of there with an inventory full of blues. You can complete most of them within 10 to 15 minutes and you're guaranteed atleast 1 blue but will likely end up with 2 or 3 per strike.
I imagine it could go either way based on the answer to these questions from the Q&A
Q&A said:
I don't see how they keep the next raid challenging for people that are going to hit level 30 before December, without raising the level cap, especially considering the only stats that actually matter are Armor, and attack. Progressing through VoG normal at level 26 is a different world compared to doing it at 27 or 28, even hard mode to a certain extent, so level 30s will be blowing through the new raid at an extremely fast pace when the threat of death is significantly lowered.
What's interesting is how they'll make running the VoG worthwhile in future, unless they use it as an artificial gating method for new players to access the new raid, maybe put some of the gear in a vendor that uses vanguard marks but keep the hard mode rewards in the HM so it has to be run in order to get to the required level to run the new raid.
Jest Chillin
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Even when making my statement I realized that there's a possibility that there's a bit of... I'll say creative freedom... in the specific programming of mechanics but it seems to me like that would be counter-intuitive to the stated goals of designing the raid. Raid mechanics are typically intended to be incredibly specific so as to force the players to contend with factors that push their skills and adaptability further than the non-raid aspects of a given game.
His choice of specific vocabulary doesn't, in and of itself, dissuade me from the idea that it's a bug. In fact, it does quite the opposite as "X was not intended and has been changed to Y" is extremely common patch note language explaining that a bug or exploit has been fixed. Seeing as how it's not an exploit as the players aren't required to do anything to make it happen, it makes me consider it a bug. It may not be a bug in the strictest sense (that being a function unintended by the specific programmer) but it's not being specifically designed to function that way still makes it loosely a bug.
It's probably just spotty because I just tried and it wouldn't let me connect
Fucking JackNicholsonNod.gif @ Paz's 5th Diary Entry. I hope there's more of that!
SlenderBeans
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I hope Bungie delays their multiplayer event. It starts in 30 minutes, and I still can't get in.
Gamer @ Heart
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Buy your legendaries buy getting to vanguard rank 3 and xur. Anything else is a bonus. Never count on drops.
figadapaura
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Nope, can't connect.
TheContact
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Doing strikes nets you vanguard tokens which you can use to buy legendaries plus there's always a chance of winning a legendary/exotic at the end or finding a legendary engram randomly from an enemy drop. Just do all the vanguard bounties you can every day and do the daily quests and if possibly the weekly ones appropriate to your level, eventually you'll get the gear from playing
It's not THAT simple, relic holder can get 2 shotted by the hobgoblins in the Mars side, and the praetorian (minotaur) wrecks most people, even people who CAN use the relic on the venus side.
Heck in the raid groups I've been in, there's always that one person who struggles at the platform jumping section.
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