Having the AUDs would keep it from being a roadblock, but it's still sort of treating the symptoms and not the disease. Still, it would be a good idea to patch them in to every version; if and when they make the next game they should overhaul hacking entirely if they intend it to be as important as it is in HR. (Also, just for anyone keeping score, I'm pretty sure level 3 hacking is also a requirement in Acquaintances Forgotten, as you can't completely search the storage locker without getting at the computer. I didn't look too hard for the code, but I'm pretty sure it's not in the dude's apartment or anything.)Wallach said:I feel like the hacking being "required" is only a side effect of them not having AUDs in the game outside of pre-orders. If you have the pre-order thing installed you find AUDs throughout the game, not just the ones you start with. Those just need to be included in the game without the pre-order garbage to fix that problem.
Doesn't fix hacking being an order of magnitude more rewarding than any of the other augs in terms of credits/XP/accessibility though.
Actually, most standard doors will break if you deal enough damage to them. Of course, there aren't a lot of standard doors in the main mission areas, but you can get into apartments and stuff by using frag grenades as makeshift lockpicks.toasty_T said:It's odd since the doors have strength ratings as if a specific amount of force could destroy them but even the most flimsy door can take a rocket like its nothing.
Solo said:Yeah, hacking is tedious/monotonous as fuck, and you do SO MUCH of it. I'm only in Singapore and it feels like I've hacked over 500 computers/doors/terminals.
EatChildren said:
Coxswain said:Having the AUDs would keep it from being a roadblock, but it's still sort of treating the symptoms and not the disease. Still, it would be a good idea to patch them in to every version; if and when they make the next game they should overhaul hacking entirely if they intend it to be as important as it is in HR. (Also, just for anyone keeping score, I'm pretty sure level 3 hacking is also a requirement in Acquaintances Forgotten, as you can't completely search the storage locker without getting at the computer. I didn't look too hard for the code, but I'm pretty sure it's not in the dude's apartment or anything.)
Enco said:The hacking is great fun. Don't get the hate.
Wallach said:It'll take a while to figure out if there actually aren't codes for these, really. I'm not actually sure if there really aren't codes for stuff like Bar Tab or Shanghai Justice yet. Frankly I'm not as concerned with that issue as much as how overboard the rewards are for hacking in general.
I guess it does get quite a lot. You can usually blow doors open though.Solo said:There is too goddamn much of it. If you're the type that feels obligated to open every door/read every computer, you're hacking constantly.
Eh... no, I think actually we're complaining because it's the opposite, there places you need to get access to with no known ways to get the password instead, so you're boned unless you can hack it. What's worse is that these instances come at the latter end of sidequests so you waste your time doing everything leading up to that moment for nothing. It's a broken system. If you don't put points into hacking, there'll be a point in a sidequest where you'll be asked to hack something, and the game does not respond at all if you can't. You're just left with the sidequest hanging.Linkzg said:they're low level with ways to get the passwords instead.
aristotle said:There are codes for everything. It lists all of them by section and location in the official guide. Even the lockers/computers without a personal journal or email that lists the codes, they're built into the game
You mean when you have to findEnco said:For the mission around the investigator one (in your return to Detroit), do you have to go through. I was surprised when I ended up in his apartment. Seemed random to me.Zeke's apartment to get to the hidden bunker?
Yup, that's what I meant.Timber said:You mean when you have to findSandobal, Taggart's right hand man?
Zeke is Sandobal's brother so he's protecting him.
FatCat said:Ugh, for once I didn't buy from the UK (living on the continent) because of a great local offer and of course the game is only in one language. The voice work in French is atrocious, my god.
nah, it suffers from all the same symptoms as all three games and without shadows. It's actually simpler.MrCompletely said:This game has perhaps the best stealth I've ever played. I'm also a huge splinter cell fan, this game stokes that stealth boner dry.
FatCat said:Ugh, for once I didn't buy from the UK (living on the continent) because of a great local offer and of course the game is only in one language. The voice work in French is atrocious, my god.
Timber said:Spoilers for 2nd visit to Hengsha.
I was starting to lose hope that Tong could be related to Tracer. Was really cool reading an email from 'TTong' to his father discussing Hong Kong.
stuminus3 said:Eh... no, I think actually we're complaining because it's the opposite, there places you need to get access to with no known ways to get the password instead, so you're boned unless you can hack it. What's worse is that these instances come at the latter end of sidequests so you waste your time doing everything leading up to that moment for nothing. It's a broken system. If you don't put points into hacking, there'll be a point in a sidequest where you'll be asked to hack something, and the game does not respond at all if you can't. You're just left with the sidequest hanging.
The sidequests should only require level 1 hacks if it's the only way to do it, like in the main quests. Or someone should have seriously reconsidered removing such an important item to get around the game being broken for non-hackers and giving it to Gamestop as DLC...
ctrayne said:Anyone else catch the arguing couple in Jensen's apartment complex? In the hallway, listen closely at the end of the hall for some interesting dialogue behind the closed door. (Kinda sad.)
Danj said:As for myself, the PC version has 99 save slots unlike the console, so I just rolled back to a save just before the biochip recall announcement and redid the stuff, taking care not to go to the LIMB clinic this time. A Typhoon blast plus a hail of lead from my captured turret meant Jaron was dead in no time. I even managed to make room in my inventory for his plasma rifle!
Solo said:There is too goddamn much of it. If you're the type that feels obligated to open every door/read every computer, you're hacking constantly.
That's not a boss.subversus said:Does the second boss consist of? If so I don't know what problems it can cause. 1 EMP grenade + 1 burst from a heavy machine gun or even PES. Done.two robots near the helipad
Zeliard said:It is fairly amusing that the future decided to add doors with mechanical locks.
thetrin said:That's not a boss.
Also, you can just turn them off using the security hub. Why waste EMPs?
Zel3 said:guys... does the the alarm going off in 'the panic room' count for the foxiest hound achievement?
Well sure, but why wouldn't you get that aug?garath said:Only if you have the robot hacking ability.
Definitely this. It makes such a difference. It reminds me of the woman's scream you can hear occasionally when in the back alleys near the gas station in DETluxarific said:One of the reasons I love the script in this game - there are so many incidental guard and bypasser conversations, it really makes the game world a much more real place. I was always a bit reluctant to snipe guards from afar since they would usually be having a conversation about something going on in the world or in that location that was interesting to listen to, once you got closer to them.
Robobandit said:They got tired of all of these script kiddies hacking their way into their buildings.. so they changed back to physical locks.
please spoiler your shit, you spoiledSober said:spoilerific information.
Stallion Free said:Weird request, but could anyone get me a screenshot of the continue load screen if you start up the game and are currently in the DRB/Antenna mission? It should look like this only it will be on 5 instead of 1:
That's what I'll be doing next go round from the start now knowing the truth.33-Hit-Combo said:Fuck you, I put 2 rounds in him.Zeke
cackhyena said:That's what I'll be doing next go round from the start now knowing the truth.