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[~Devil Trigger~]

WTF is up with Dante side of the Jungle?

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the 3 paths, none are working. Im trying to read the fuck instruction but is too danm bright, cant see the words

 

[FlyinJ]

Ok, I'm some very weak sauce. I can't figure out what the hell they want me to do.

Mission 3 spoiler:

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I grapple over to a balcony, then two grapple points appear. I grapple to one of them, then there are two in front of me, one is moving. I assume I'm supposed to wait until the moving one is in front of the platform, so I wait, lock, grapple, then grapple to the second one. THen I fall into THE PIT and have to fight 8 guys. I go back up, try again, and the only time I get past the moving grapple part is if I impale myself on the ceiling and just happen to land on the balcony. Then there are three grapple points, blinking off and on. I wait for the sequence, grapple the first, grapple the second, and it doesn't disappear, but my guy again falls into THE PIT. I have no idea what they want me to do. Is it timing? Am I supposed to by stick-locking onto other targets? Do I have to hold the grapple button down as well as lock on when grappling?

Goddamn I'm frustrated.

 

[Narag]

WTF is up with Dante side of the Jungle?

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the 3 paths, none are working. Im trying to read the fuck instruction but is too danm bright, cant see the words

Check this.

Ok, I'm some very weak sauce. I can't figure out what the hell they want me to do.

Mission 3 spoiler:

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I grapple over to a balcony, then two grapple points appear. I grapple to one of them, then there are two in front of me, one is moving. I assume I'm supposed to wait until the moving one is in front of the platform, so I wait, lock, grapple, then grapple to the second one. THen I fall into THE PIT and have to fight 8 guys. I go back up, try again, and the only time I get past the moving grapple part is if I impale myself on the ceiling and just happen to land on the balcony. Then there are three grapple points, blinking off and on. I wait for the sequence, grapple the first, grapple the second, and it doesn't disappear, but my guy again falls into THE PIT. I have no idea what they want me to do. Is it timing? Am I supposed to by stick-locking onto other targets? Do I have to hold the grapple button down as well as lock on when grappling?

Goddamn I'm frustrated.

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Listen for the tone that plays and grapple again when it does.
I was stuck there for half an hour myself.

 

[FlyinJ]

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Listen for the tone that plays and grapple again when it does.
I was stuck there for half an hour myself.

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Tone that plays? Should I wait for the tone before starting the first grapple? Do I hold lockon down the whole time, then wait to hear another tone to hit grapple again? I don't really understand

 

[Narag]

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Tone that plays? Should I wait for the tone before starting the first grapple? Do I hold lockon down the whole time, then wait to hear another tone to hit grapple again? I don't really understand

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If I remember right, you'll lockon, hear a tone, grapple, then grapple again each time the tone plays. I can pop it on to come with up with a more clear answer if needed

 

[brandonh83]

Oh my god

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Dante shot Echidna and she fucking exploded for no reason

YES :lol :lol

But what got me *late game spoiler

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Dante slicing a building in half with Yamato, from about a mile away. A BUILDING. IN HALF. A MILE AWAY

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

Check this.

wow, Capcom failed the SD test again...

 

[Narag]

wow, Capcom failed the SD test again...

The instructions weren't particularly clear to begin with.

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The mistress of this forest is preventing your passage. Find her and kill her.

or something equally stupid.

 

[Darkpen]

I just finished, and oh my god that was hard

Such annoying bosses, and HOW the hell was I supposed to figure out that you're supposed to use your

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devilbringer against his SWINGING arm???

Also: omfg Gloria is wearing NOTHING down there o_o

o_o

omg wow

Also, my collector's tin had a broken manual clip thingy inside I asked for an exchange at the store, and the exchanged copy ALSO had a broken manual clip, so I was like fuck it.



Was this the case for anyone else here?

 

[Mefisutoferesu]

I just finished, and oh my god that was hard

Such annoying bosses, and HOW the hell was I supposed to figure out that you're supposed to use your devilbringer against his SWINGING arm???

Also: omfg Gloria is wearing NOTHING down there o_o

o_o

omg wow

Also, my collector's tin had a broken manual clip thingy inside I asked for an exchange at the story, and the exchanged copy ALSO had a broken manual clip, so I was like fuck it.



Was this the case for anyone else here?

Yeah, me too. The paint on my case is scratched and the manual is ripped too. :\

 

[Narag]

Be kind and spoiler the boss part.

 

[Darkpen]

The instructions weren't particularly clear to begin with.

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The mistress of this forest is preventing your passage. Find her and kill her.

or something equally stupid.

if anything, that part of the game was some serious RPG bullshit puzzle right there, lol.

I mean, seriously, I would be less surprised if they made DMC4 a JRPG, and had that same puzzle (as well as the dice bullshit)

 

[brandonh83]

Darkpen, I think they tried to stuff too much shit into the CE, causing some of the clips to snap. Mine was okay but as soon as I opened it I took out the bonus DVD case to give everything some more room.

 

[Narag]

if anything, that part of the game was some serious RPG bullshit puzzle right there, lol.

I mean, seriously, I would be less surprised if they made DMC4 an JRPG, and had that same puzzle (as well as the dice bullshit)

Hardly. After figuring out the first half, the second has been repeated already. The dice game is entirely abusable too. The problem with the first part, as much as it pains me to say, was the fixed camera angles. There's only a finite set of paths to be taken there.

 

[brandonh83]

Guess I'm one of the few who weren't bothered by the dice parts. I got past them relatively quickly and actually somewhat enjoyed the second part 0_o

 

[Darkpen]

so I guess I'll might as well link this, though I'm sure you guys see it in the thread list:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9670718

Guess I'm one of the few who weren't bothered by the dice parts. I got past them relatively quickly and actually somewhat enjoyed the second part 0_o

were you playing human or demon hunter?

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fighting the bosses a third time was annoying, especially the toad and the stuttering guy.

Speaking of annoying bosses, was

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Dante

a bitch to kill or what I mean, really.

 

[Narag]

Yeah they're easy if you know what they were doing. I guess I should count myself lucky I figured out the trick first thing.

 

[Synless]

Finally beat it, I have to say I love this series, it's crazy and this one didn't disappoint. WTF at that retarded dice game, someone needs to shoot the stupid asshole who came up with that idea.

 

[brandonh83]

were you playing human or demon hunter?

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fighting the bosses a third time was annoying, especially the toad and the stuttering guy.

Devil Hunter... and I dunno, I really like the bosses in this game so I didn't have a problem with fighting them again.

 

[ezekial45]

Devil Hunter... and I dunno, I really like the bosses in this game so I didn't have a problem with fighting them again.

Lets see how like them on the harder difficulties. :lol

 

[brandonh83]

Lets see how like them on the harder difficulties. :lol

Believe me I can't wait.

 

[kiryogi]

Anyone know if L'arc en Ciel's "Drink it Down" is in the domestic version of DMC4?

 

[Darkpen]

Anyone know if L'arc en Ciel's "Drink it Down" is in the domestic version of DMC4?

nope, no where, thank GOD

jrock in my dmc? No thanks. It was one thing with Gackt in Dirge, but really? no thanks.

 

[Defuser]

Dude, I've been trying for almost 30 mins now. Probably 30+ retries. I can't even get him below 50% life.

If I roll or jump away when he moves for an attack, 1/4th the time his attack will hit me at the end of my roll or while I'm in the air jumping.

My biggest problem is that he keeps doing that explosion thing ALL THE TIME and half the time I jump away, jump away and it's not far enough and it hits me and does almost 50% DAMAGE IN 1 HIT.

I'm about to call it quits and go back to bloody palace and just stick to Son of Sparda replays.

*edit* final did it. WTF PURPLE MODE. I'm still done with DMD though. Stage was fine, but if all the bosses are like that, it's above my level.

At least you have fun , if only you have dante and his pandora box in mission 2.....

 

[brandonh83]

By the way the music on the mission 20 complete stat screen is pretty much great.

 

[Kittonwy]

No matter how hard I try I can rarely get IR to work =[

Don't try, just let it flow, you'll get the rhythm naturally.

 

[Darkpen]

Don't try, just let it flow, you'll get the rhythm naturally.

I wish someone would make a tutorial for IR Seriously, I don't even bother with it unless I'm on a time limit, and even then I just spazz it.

 

[Narag]

Don't try, just let it flow, you'll get the rhythm naturally.

Listen to this. A nice place to practice is the torture chamber as stuff respawns when you fall back in. Nero is extremely satisfying once you start nailing the revving, even moreso with the max rev.

I wish someone would make a tutorial for IR Seriously, I don't even bother with it unless I'm on a time limit, and even then I just spazz it.

Here.

 

[Darkpen]

Here.

I mean, like a video, with synced controller footage/gamefootage PIP editing and decent video quality, with a narrator and segments for beginnner, intermediate, and advanced techniques.

Even some suggestions for button remapping.

 

[SlaughterX]

Did anyone here get an autographed copy of the CE?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Goddamn this game is so awesome. I'm still not far, but I had a blast on stage 4. It took me a few tries, but when I finally took down that

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frog boss

the feeling of accomplishment was immense. I really like how this game forces you to get better and better at it yet still remains a challenge. I went back to the 2nd level after beating stage 4 to farm some orbs and I was able to totally destroy everything and kill Belias almost without getting hurt.

I need to go back and give DMC3 (SE next time) another chance after I finish this game.

 

[Toonami 99]

Is it just me or has the timing to rev streak changed since the demo. I find it harder to get it, than the ex-streak.

 

[BlacKMaRK]

Is it just me or has the timing to rev streak changed since the demo. I find it harder to get it, than the ex-streak.

ive noticed that too.

btw can anyone help me out, i just bought the move that lets you streak in the air(forgot the name=/) but i can seem to pull it off. any help?

 

[Kyoufu]

ive noticed that too.

btw can anyone help me out, i just bought the move that lets you streak in the air(forgot the name=/) but i can seem to pull it off. any help?

You mean back, forward, melee in the air?

 

[Desi]

Why Proud Souls? Wish I could just use Red Orbs for everything. The text style in a lot of the menus look really bland, what is up with that.

 

[Yo Gotti]

The text style in a lot of the menus look really bland, what is up with that.

we aint here to look @ pretty pictures, motherfucker

 

[Darkpen]

Why Proud Souls? Wish I could just use Red Orbs for everything. The text style in a lot of the menus look really bland, what is up with that.

eh, dmc3 looked about the same. I mean, considering that DMC was an RE spinoff, I'd say its come a long way D:

 

[Darkpen]

we aint here to look @ pretty pictures, motherfucker

yes we are D:

boobies ftw! :lol :lol

 

[ScissorHands]

BTW I don't want to start any major arguments so I am going to say this as precisely as possible.

DMC4 makes Heavenly Sword look like the mediocre action game it really is. Even just with Nero's aspect of the combat. I can't believe I thought that game was like a solid action game once...

Agreed. The combat in DMC4 is truly amazing, but I have too admit that the story and art of HS are way better. Art as well.

*runs*

 

[drohne]

alright, i'm liking this much better having just finished level 7 -- the early levels and evilore's impressions had me really worried. the balance has thankfully shifted away from traversal and towards combat -- which combat gets more enjoyable as stronger enemies appear. and the bosses are getting closer to dmc3 quality. the

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credo

fight in particular was excellent -- took me a few tries to develop an efficient strategy, and then it was really satisfying to put him down with close to a full life bar. i've been playing without continues or recovery items, which helps give it that dmc3 feel.

i didn't notice much slowdown in the forest, btw -- 360 version here. maybe that's another version difference, or maybe i'm just not as framerate sensitive as other players

ive noticed that too.

btw can anyone help me out, i just bought the move that lets you streak in the air(forgot the name=/) but i can seem to pull it off. any help?

i find it easier to do if i throw in a couple gunshots first...it is a bit touchy

 

[ElyrionX]

alright, i'm liking this much better having just finished level 7 -- the early levels and evilore's impressions had me really worried. the balance has thankfully shifted away from traversal and towards combat -- which combat gets more enjoyable as stronger enemies appear. and the bosses are getting closer to dmc3 quality. the

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credo

fight in particular was excellent -- took me a few tries to develop an efficient strategy, and then it was really satisfying to put him down with close to a full life bar. i've been playing without continues or recovery items, which helps give it that dmc3 feel.

i didn't notice much slowdown in the forest, btw -- 360 version here. maybe that's another version difference, or maybe i'm just not as framerate sensitive as other players



i find it easier to do if i throw in a couple gunshots first...it is a bit touchy

Not really. Wait till you get to Dante.

Also, I didn't notice any slowdown at the forest area until I got there with Dante.

 

[thetrin]

nope, no where, thank GOD

jrock in my dmc? No thanks. It was one thing with Gackt in Dirge, but really? no thanks.

They took it out? Wow, glad I have the JP version. The L'arc song fits the game sooo well.

I'm just about to start Mission 13 tonight. I thought I'd be be relieved to have Dante back, but the more I use him, the more I miss the Devil Bringer. I really loved the dimension the Buster and Grim Grasp added to fights. I also found it hugely satisfying to use the custom grabs on bosses.

 

[EviLore]

Despite how I felt about the game on my Devil Hunter run, I'm already itching to start SoS. Maybe because I know the puzzle/platforming and frequently getting lost crap won't bother me nearly as much on another playthrough (since I know exactly where to go and what to do) and I'm itching for some real hardcore DMC3 style challenge. Oh, and skipping the cutscenes will probably improve matters.

KYYYYYYYYYRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[thetrin]

Despite how I felt about the game on my Devil Hunter run, I'm already itching to start SoS. Maybe because I know the puzzle/platforming and frequently getting lost crap won't bother me nearly as much on another playthrough (since I know exactly where to go and what to do) and I'm itching for some real hardcore DMC3 style challenge. Oh, and skipping the cutscenes will probably improve matters.

KYYYYYYYYYRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see nothing wrong with inserting a genuine character like Nero into the story. It's not Bill Shakespeare, but it's not certainly not SHIT.

I dunno, don't think I'll ever understand why people hate emo characters so much.

 

[Teknoman]

Wow the forest level actually seems more like a jungle. We're probably going to see alot of the stuff used in those missions in RE5. The whole dynamic weather thing (really a nice touch both in and outside the boss battle). Also this game finally made me realize that games have taken a decent stride towards making a realistically bright environment.

Though the boss's entrance could've been abit better compared to the last two demons.

Also i've always wondered where the term emo short for emotional? Isnt every single person on earth emo then? Also I really dont think Nero counts as emo in the standard sense of the word.

 

[kiryogi]

They took it out? Wow, glad I have the JP version. The L'arc song fits the game sooo well.

I'm just about to start Mission 13 tonight. I thought I'd be be relieved to have Dante back, but the more I use him, the more I miss the Devil Bringer. I really loved the dimension the Buster and Grim Grasp added to fights. I also found it hugely satisfying to use the custom grabs on bosses.

Trin: When is it used in the JP ver?

 

[Darkpen]

They took it out? Wow, glad I have the JP version. The L'arc song fits the game sooo well.

Eww, where did they put that song in the JP version? ED credits, or lyrics-less bgm during cutscenes/combat? Or lyrics bgm during combat? Or what?

I'm just about to start Mission 13 tonight. I thought I'd be be relieved to have Dante back, but the more I use him, the more I miss the Devil Bringer. I really loved the dimension the Buster and Grim Grasp added to fights. I also found it hugely satisfying to use the custom grabs on bosses.

Oh gawd, yeah, I was TOTALLY missing the devil bringer when I got a hold of dante. I have to admit that I love trying to pull off the custom animations w/ devil trigger on and using buster.

Its stuff like that that makes me rethink about GoW's contribution to the action scene, with Ninja Gaiden 2 doing some funky stuff, Assassin's Creed's counter animations, as well as DMC4's custom buster animations. Sure, they're not doing QTEs (thank god), but the custom animation stuff would've never happened otherwise, I think.

Which reminds me, how many people noticed that there's a special camera sequence in mission 20 for when you

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use buster on the first boss fight (old man w/ sparda sword) when he has one bar of health left

?

 

[thetrin]

Eww, where did they put that song in the JP version? ED credits, or lyrics-less bgm during cutscenes/combat? Or lyrics bgm during combat? Or what?

The L'arc song shows up in the opening attract screen movie. I haven't seen it anywhere else, yet (I'm on mission 13...so I dunno about the end)

Btw, did anyone else really like the "follow the light" puzzle in the forest? I thought it was an effective use of next gen effects, and the hints were subtle enough that it took me a second to realize where the light was.

 

[Darkpen]

I see nothing wrong with inserting a genuine character like Nero into the story. It's not Bill Shakespeare, but it's not certainly not SHIT.

I dunno, don't think I'll ever understand why people hate emo characters so much.

Hating emos is a cultural fad, just like how complaining about Cloud and Squall "whining" is such a throwaway comment.

As for Nero, he has as much significance as any other character, but if there's anything that's terrible about the cutscenes, its the awkward dialogue, lol. I don't know if its just me, but sometimes what they say don't really match up with the scene, or make any real english-speaking sense (i.e. the

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theater cutscene with agnus and dante

, though that might be something entirely different). But awkwardness aside, when the cheesy one-liners start pouring in, I can't help but smile.

 

[Danielsan]

I'm at mission 13 but my concensus thusfar is DMC1>DMC3>DMC4.
DMC1 remains number 1 for me due to the shit ton of atmosphere, music, badass Dante, fantastic enemies and bosses. DMC3 is close behind with it's amazing boss battles, fantastic deep gameplay and genuine interesting and well told story.

DMC4 is like a mix of both yet it doesn't quite manage to hit the highpoints of the other games. The story is a big chaotic mess. The leveldesign is pretty but often anyoing and nowhere near DMC1. The bosses are great but again I'd give DMC1 and especially DMC3 the upperhand. The enemies look fantastic but there are a lot of annoying enemies among them, it's definitely better than DMC3 in that regard though.