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Devil May Cry 4 |OT| of daring to defy your savior
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siamesedreamer
Banned
Never played a DMC...what things do I need to focus on leveling up? I'm on the 4th level and haven't done anything yet.
MickeyKnox
Member
ROFL I just connected my PS3 to my new router, and it's not picking up any of the data from my save. I cleared all of DH while offline, but it shows up as not being done and my having 0 points.
Whatever.
Whatever.
ToyMachine228
Member
Just finished the game. Pretty decent. It'll be interesting to see where they take the series from here. I definitely think both Nero and Dante have a place in the series as playable characters going forward. Enjoyed playing them both. As far as pure action gaming goes I think Nero's arm is definitely a big addition making it easier to string together long and devastating combos.
Other than that though I'm pleased and I'm definitely going to play through again. Probably on Son of Sparda. I'll probably dabble in the other modes as well. Gotta play some Rez first!
I find it kind of odd however that they never come right out and talk about Nero's connection to Virgil. The fact that Virgil is empowering Nero through Devil Trigger, and using Yamato. Fans know it, but I thought they would have talked about it and explained it.
Other than that though I'm pleased and I'm definitely going to play through again. Probably on Son of Sparda. I'll probably dabble in the other modes as well. Gotta play some Rez first!
Bebpo said:
i'll add ya after i get back home from work. My DMD scores suck, i really hated that mode, i mostly just run and holy water most of my fights haha. The most annoying boss fight for me was Sanctus in stage 11, after i got him down to 10% health (which took bout 4-5mins) i could not touch him for a good 30mins lol damn old fart.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vDoaP8sybbo
Holy shit....that DT move was fucking insane. I think I bought it and forgot to ever try it.
Holy shit....that DT move was fucking insane. I think I bought it and forgot to ever try it.
ToyMachine228 said:
Well, other than
Vergil being there empowering him, no other connection is explained. Everyone keeps saying Nero posesses the blood of Sparda, but uhhh how?
C- Warrior
Banned
Draft said:
Perform the buster attack the moment he pivots his hips to throw/release it as if he was a baseball pitcher.
If that seems to early, wait a few milliseconds after such.
And I'm surprised nobody is commenting on the secret ending. That was badass.
XHitoshuraX
Banned
The battle with Credo is essentially one of the greatest fights I have ever experienced in an action game.
C- Warrior
Banned
XHitoshuraX said:
Agreed. Especially on SoS (still haven't touched DMD yet).
He goes ape-shit crazy and starts busting out these attacks I've never seen before on Devil Hunter. I was like "hooly shit..."
AgentOtaku
Member
need to stop fucking peeking in this thread as I keep spoiling shit (>__<)
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
So I finally beat it. Boy did I almost screw up the VERY last part of the final boss fight. Kept trying to snatch instead of buster...
Future PhaZe
Member
So I just beat the game on DH. Great game. So do difficulty levels effect your ranking online? Like getting more stylish points on DmD, or are there separate boards for certain difficulties?
dirtmonkey37
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Okay, either I'm missing a large portion of my brain or there's something wrong with the game's story: I'm not understanding much of it and I'm on Mission 17.
Am I getting this?
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Okay, so there's this group called the Order of such and such, and they worship the demon-slaying God Sparda (who is Dante's father; was spoken about in DMC1, 2, 3, etc). Then, the leaders of this Sparda-worshipping group decide, with the help of a giant, dark-skinned scientist to harness demonic power by "isolating and binding it." Using demonic power which they extract from _____, they turn themselves into Angel-creatures, hoping to kill everything in the world and start anew?
Am I getting this?
I don't understand the whole flying-statue-of-Sparda thing either
C- Warrior
Banned
The statue is merely a built vessel to harness the power of the yamato and sparda's blood.
This will give in-turn great demonic power. Which sanctus wants.
This was what Arkham was doing in DMC3. Using the Yamato to gain the power of Sparda.
However, the game tries to elicit the point that dante, sparda, trish, the order is all a side story, and the real story is nero trying to save kyrie. That's meant to be the whole driving force. As you can tell, Nero doesn't give a shit what's going on. He just wants to save Kyrie.
Dante is there to stop the order.
This will give in-turn great demonic power. Which sanctus wants.
This was what Arkham was doing in DMC3. Using the Yamato to gain the power of Sparda.
However, the game tries to elicit the point that dante, sparda, trish, the order is all a side story, and the real story is nero trying to save kyrie. That's meant to be the whole driving force. As you can tell, Nero doesn't give a shit what's going on. He just wants to save Kyrie.
Dante is there to stop the order.
interesting fact:
Nero, in DT mode, when you shot you'll see blades attacking for extra damage, now when you grab a boss while he/she is stunned, you can actually hit the shoot button, since you can't shoot while in the grabbing animation, you can still produce those blades, they'll hit your target causing more damage. Charge shoots produce 6 blades while normal shoots just produce 1-2 blades per fire.
Nero, in DT mode, when you shot you'll see blades attacking for extra damage, now when you grab a boss while he/she is stunned, you can actually hit the shoot button, since you can't shoot while in the grabbing animation, you can still produce those blades, they'll hit your target causing more damage. Charge shoots produce 6 blades while normal shoots just produce 1-2 blades per fire.
C- Warrior said:
The more I've thought about it, the more I've liked this. Its neat watching Dante at work from the outside looking in for a change.
hteng said:
I'd noticed that. You can do some crazy stuff with the 6 blade charge shot but there's a delay before it takes off one blade at a time
dirtmonkey37
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C- Warrior said:
Hehe, that's right! All he wants to do is save that girl. No wonder all his comments were so....eh.
So are Sanctus and co. demons? Or are they angels? God, it's so confusing, especially after Agnus referred to the "armors" as angels earlier on. And why does Sanctus want the demonic power to begin with? He clearly doens't want to destroy humanity as evidenced by when he killed all the demons in the Fortuna-town with his statue to protect the people, telling them (paraphrased) a "new way of life has begun." Arrgh.
Toonami 99
Member
I finished DH and human earlier today
I found mission 18 more annoying then 19 (the dice game was easy)
Also I need some tips for the final boss.
All boss battles were great BTW except mission 18.
I found mission 18 more annoying then 19 (the dice game was easy)
Also I need some tips for the final boss.
I know that you can use the devil bringer to stop hip from charging with the sword, but completely breaking his shield and wings is becoming tedious.
Story was ok, but with no origin for Nero it leaves me disappointed. For all we know Capcom can pull a switch and have nero not related to vergil.
Dante was a little disappointing, switching through all 6 weapons left me confused when I wanted to mix it up. Most of his weapons dont really have easy croud control compaired to Nero, and without snatch, I hated chasing after an enemy after a stinger. His swords left me a little more to be desired too, Gill. is powerful but too slow for me, plus his jump kick doesnt connect when you are locked on. Pandora's Box was ok, but what is up with the commands? why not tap the stick twice instead of three times and for revenge why not just one 360 instead of two. I hate the fact that there wasnt a weapon faster than rebellion but weaker in damage.
no extra costumes, no unlockable characters, no extra weapons, this doesnt sound like capcom to not leave out this stuff.
Story was ok, but with no origin for Nero it leaves me disappointed. For all we know Capcom can pull a switch and have nero not related to vergil.
Dante was a little disappointing, switching through all 6 weapons left me confused when I wanted to mix it up. Most of his weapons dont really have easy croud control compaired to Nero, and without snatch, I hated chasing after an enemy after a stinger. His swords left me a little more to be desired too, Gill. is powerful but too slow for me, plus his jump kick doesnt connect when you are locked on. Pandora's Box was ok, but what is up with the commands? why not tap the stick twice instead of three times and for revenge why not just one 360 instead of two. I hate the fact that there wasnt a weapon faster than rebellion but weaker in damage.
no extra costumes, no unlockable characters, no extra weapons, this doesnt sound like capcom to not leave out this stuff.
All boss battles were great BTW except mission 18.
Mefisutoferesu
Member
Toonami 99 said:
It's pretty clear that this is Nero's game and that the environments (big for the sake of DB) and enemies were tuned to his combat style, Dante's an after thought, and feels like it too, unfortunately.
dirtmonkey37 said:
It was a little muddy, but Sanctus had Angus summon the demons to both attack the town and use them to empower their Order. After creating an enemy and bringing the town to the brink of destruction, Sanctus swoops in and saves everyone with a grand show of "godly" force. He gains the loyalty of the people and rules over the remnants.
What I want to know is how
Sanctus got his hands on the Sparda sword, since it's shown in Dante's flashback cutscene on the wall in his office. Maybe Trish gave it to the Order to gain their loyalty?
ScissorHands
Member
Man, Dante's Cutsecenes are so much better :lol. The action is just awesom and his lol attitude makes you lol too.
btw Mission 18 "Ugly Hair" Boss is really lame. This + the forest are were the gameplay is at its lowest. Thankfully everything else is perfect/great.
btw Mission 18 "Ugly Hair" Boss is really lame. This + the forest are were the gameplay is at its lowest. Thankfully everything else is perfect/great.
Just beat the game a few minutes ago. A tad short, and there were a couple times when I was pulling my hair out in frustration (not so much because of the difficulty - more because of the camera or just the stupid design choice), but overall, I really liked it. It was my first Devil May Cry, so I suppose now I understand what all the hullaballoo is about.
CrushDance
Banned
Can someone hook me up with all these hot DMC4 wallpapers/artwork? I especially want the one where Nero is facing forward and Dante has his back to the camera and they're on stairs. There's a smaller version of it on the Devil May Cry official site as the first screen you see.
Thanks!
Thanks!
dirtmonkey37
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Zabka said:
Oh okay. Cool.
But then another question: Agnus mentions that to "conquer the world" (which is what the leader of the Order wants to do), he opened a Hellgate (not the real "Gate", but a "Hellgate") to release the demons. Nero fights these demons and Kyrie happened to be by his side at the time and she fell into a situation of great danger. Nero relinquished his humanity to become a demon for power to pull Kyrie out of that sticky situation. Meanwhile, Agnus is using the power of these demons (how?; that's my question) to turn "His Holiness", Credo, and himself into "Angels" (Am I right so far?). As Angels and with the power of the Yamato/Demon Blood infused with the Sparda vessel/statue, they can conquer this new "world" of theirs. Correct?
But then another question: Agnus mentions that to "conquer the world" (which is what the leader of the Order wants to do), he opened a Hellgate (not the real "Gate", but a "Hellgate") to release the demons. Nero fights these demons and Kyrie happened to be by his side at the time and she fell into a situation of great danger. Nero relinquished his humanity to become a demon for power to pull Kyrie out of that sticky situation. Meanwhile, Agnus is using the power of these demons (how?; that's my question) to turn "His Holiness", Credo, and himself into "Angels" (Am I right so far?). As Angels and with the power of the Yamato/Demon Blood infused with the Sparda vessel/statue, they can conquer this new "world" of theirs. Correct?
Mefisutoferesu
Member
Dahbomb said:
You should change your avatar.
Why? I refuse to.Mefisutoferesu said:
He will fucking return. I will wear it until DMC5 god damn it!
Has anyone tried HOH mode yet? Is there any difference to the game aside from you die in one hit and enemies have DMD-like health and AI? I heard something about you need high styles to kill enemies, is that true?
MiamiWesker
Member
Finally got passed Berial in Bloody Palace with Dante (Trickster for the win). The 20's are crazy, stupid Blitz, I did managed to get all the way to level 30 in good health but then a freaking army of enemies came out and its tough to manage that many enemies with Dante, so they destroyed me. I guess its much easier with Nero and his throw move, just spam that and the fight should be easy.
XHitoshuraX
Banned
How do you use the shield? And is it worth it lol
MiamiWesker
Member
XHitoshuraX said:
For nero right? I have never used it, only for a secret mission. Is it really useful in any way?
Future PhaZe
Member
Did Bloody Palace late at night for the first time after beating the game. Chose Nero, got to Berial and died =(. I'll try again in the morning with Dante and try to get to him with full health.
You mean the Aegis Shield?XHitoshuraX said:
You just perform its input (which is Buster and hold O down) and it holds up an enemy like you are performing Buster. You can use it to raise style by blocking enemy attacks with it but it's biggest usage is excluding enemies from combos. Like say you start a combo on an enemy and you want to finish it last but you are surrounded by enemies. You would initiate Aegis Shield on the enemy that is in front of you, then you would proceed to do R1+Forward+Attack button which would result in a Streak (EX Streak if you have gauges filled). The enemy that is in the Grab while be suspended in mid-air over you while you proceed to slash the other enemies. Once the attack finishes, you can finish off the opponent that is in your grab.
It appears to be a ghetto Buster cancel of some sort as well, like a "fake Buster". I am still trying to experiment with its capabilities.
MickeyKnox
Member
I've decided that there still isn't a moment in DMC3/4 that gives off the same ofmg awesome pump up vibe that the end of the original DMC demo/1st Nero Agelo fight gives. Although 2nd Virgil fight in DMC3 is kinda close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFu_Zmfd47U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFu_Zmfd47U
Everdred
Member
I got this game from gamefly yesterday, sent it back today. I played it for about 2.5 hours and I thought the combat was far too button mashy. The plot/cinematics, which I was really excited about, were a let down. However I did enjoy the graphics and art style. It seems to be very well liked, so it must not be a game for me (I loved DMC1 and I love NG games). It seems like the game hasn't changed much from the first, which was totally awesome for its time.