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Devil May Cry 4 |OT| of daring to defy your savior
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Spirit of Jazz
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MechaX said:
Okay, that sounds beyond awesome. Can't wait to get to him on the harder difficulties now given I've been really disappointed with the bosses on DH.
memecomplex
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Double post sorry!
memecomplex
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Draft said:
If anyone missed my post, DMC4 of X360 is even better with a wired controller! The extra lightness (not to mention the lack of button input lag compared to a wireless) makes it that much better for long playing sessions.
Hey Draft, I experimented with having charge on LB but it interfered with insta-revs too much. In my experience it's actually a lot better on RB with lock on on the right trigger.
C- Warrior
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The Wispy Scoundrel said:
When you play a devil may cry game, you play it for the long haul. Devil Hunter, SoS, DMD -- new A.I, new enemies, new stategies etc.
It'll probably take roughly 40 hours to see and experience everything. A Heavenly Sword weekend rental this is not.
Future PhaZe
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memecomplex said:
Wtf? Button input lag?
C- Warrior
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dralla said:
Charge shot. It shuts em' up real quick.
Then squeeze a quick snatch to buster and back away.
C- Warrior
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Anyway, can somebody confirm this.
A friend of mine started a new game on automatic. He isn't so much into doing his own combos, he just would rather attain entertainment from visually seeing them with minor control on his part.
He got up to mission 3 last night, shut it off - and then loaded his file today.
And he called me and said the automatic feature isn't doing what it did yesterday?
A friend of mine started a new game on automatic. He isn't so much into doing his own combos, he just would rather attain entertainment from visually seeing them with minor control on his part.
He got up to mission 3 last night, shut it off - and then loaded his file today.
And he called me and said the automatic feature isn't doing what it did yesterday?
MiamiWesker
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Bebpo said:
Same here, is there something I am doing wrong cause Bloody Palace is way harder than anything in the game. I cant get past the 20's.
C- Warrior
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Sectus said:
So it does reset back to auto off. I just did a mock mission 1 run as if I started a new game on auto on, and each time you go to the mission menu to load up, or continue -- it defaults automatic back to off.
I agree with everything in this post, except for item cheesing. I would never use an item in my DMC even if my life depended upon it. It's like cutting off your e-penis.Draft said:
That shit is for the WEAKSAUCE.
The only problem with the Dante fight is that there is this REALLY EASY AI hole in it that unless you take advantage of you really cannot own him that easily without some serious skill. I am talking about the "keep shoot walking toward him and then Buster him and corner him.... repeat". I used this hole once but will never do it again.... it's like Godhand all over again with the damn exploits. I am too honorable for this shit.
fistfulofmetal
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Using Bloody Palace to get good at DMC4 Dante.
I think my Sixaxis is fucked. I'll be running around and then Dante will either start to slowly walk, or stop walking all together. And changing styles isn't is screwy too, I'll hit right and somehow have Gunslinger.
I want a DS3 but I'm not paying that much to import
I think my Sixaxis is fucked. I'll be running around and then Dante will either start to slowly walk, or stop walking all together. And changing styles isn't is screwy too, I'll hit right and somehow have Gunslinger.
I want a DS3 but I'm not paying that much to import
It's on the first page, just scroll down some but it's just for people who are new to DMC/Nero (I wrote it for the demo). When I complete the game on DMD then I will post a REAL indepth combat write up for the game... and from the looks of it I have my work cut out for me. :lolbiggkidd32 said:Dahbomb, what post number was your in-depth combat write-up? Any plans for faqs?
Also WTF @ Automatic charging guns for you. This is new to the series and is really LAME IMO but it gives the Automatic people unfair advantage over the people who are actually PLAYING the game. And there is the whole "random just rev" bull shit...
PepsimanVsJoe
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I'm really surprised that using automatic doesn't penalize you in the rankings.
I tried it out on mission 17th on Human for lolz and got an S-rank.
I tried it out on mission 17th on Human for lolz and got an S-rank.
Dave1988
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KolosLazar16
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Just finished mission 8 on SoS, good progress today, went from start of 14 in DH to end of 8 on SoS
Finished DMD. Once I finish the last 4 secret missions I need I think I'll be about done and ready to move on.
DMD was fun with Nero and NOT FUN AT ALL WITH DANTE. With Nero I really felt in control of the situation and on offense. With Dante it was like jumping around a lot and downward kicking/slashing hoping to not get hit while you have 5-10 DT'd enemies flying around on the ground ready to murder you in 1 sec. With Nero I didn't need to use any items but with Dante...holy shit I burned through items so fast I wasn't sure if I'd even make it back to Nero. Also I HATE that when you die in a secret mission you restart from the last checkpoint. I tried doing the royal guard one in the jungle and I died and it started me 3 INSANELY HARD FIGHTS BACK including Blitz fights.
Blitz on DMD is NOT FUN. I swear he takes like 10 rockets+ with Pandora to get his electricity off and even DT'd I couldn't do enough damage to get him into the red so he just went back into yellow and I had to get him down again and then do red dodging. Meanwhile he can kill you so fast if you get touched. Fights were annoying everytime with him. The only enemies I found fun to fight with Dante were Knights and Mephistos. The rest of the enemies seem made for Nero like the Frosts, which aren't fun when you can't buster them up or explode them or the SEWER FISH THINGS which SUCK with Dante and are awkward getting them out.
The helldogs in DT mode are SCARY. Until now they were easy enemies to play around with, but here they'll jump up and shoot you in the face while you're in the air dodging. >_<
I still think outside of Dante, Berial is the toughest boss in the game. In the gauntlet he's the only one that took me multiple continues still. The one move that he does where he swings the sword upwards and spins around and the uppercut attack are still really hard for me to dodge correctly. At least if I keep my distance I can take him down pretty well since his medium-range attacks are easy to dodge.
I gotta say I really like the final boss. He's a completely different type of boss gameplay than Vergil who was smart and random. I like that this guy follows patterns like a robot and once you get them down you can beat him on DMD without taking a hit. The correct strategy for beating all of his options is pretty fun and smart and it's great when it all clicks. Definitely one of my favorite bosses from a gameplay-perspective.
I'm still 60k away from Nero/Dante's last skill >_< Maybe I'll run through Human mode with the super characters and grab the last SMs I need :lol
DMD was fun with Nero and NOT FUN AT ALL WITH DANTE. With Nero I really felt in control of the situation and on offense. With Dante it was like jumping around a lot and downward kicking/slashing hoping to not get hit while you have 5-10 DT'd enemies flying around on the ground ready to murder you in 1 sec. With Nero I didn't need to use any items but with Dante...holy shit I burned through items so fast I wasn't sure if I'd even make it back to Nero. Also I HATE that when you die in a secret mission you restart from the last checkpoint. I tried doing the royal guard one in the jungle and I died and it started me 3 INSANELY HARD FIGHTS BACK including Blitz fights.
Blitz on DMD is NOT FUN. I swear he takes like 10 rockets+ with Pandora to get his electricity off and even DT'd I couldn't do enough damage to get him into the red so he just went back into yellow and I had to get him down again and then do red dodging. Meanwhile he can kill you so fast if you get touched. Fights were annoying everytime with him. The only enemies I found fun to fight with Dante were Knights and Mephistos. The rest of the enemies seem made for Nero like the Frosts, which aren't fun when you can't buster them up or explode them or the SEWER FISH THINGS which SUCK with Dante and are awkward getting them out.
The helldogs in DT mode are SCARY. Until now they were easy enemies to play around with, but here they'll jump up and shoot you in the face while you're in the air dodging. >_<
I still think outside of Dante, Berial is the toughest boss in the game. In the gauntlet he's the only one that took me multiple continues still. The one move that he does where he swings the sword upwards and spins around and the uppercut attack are still really hard for me to dodge correctly. At least if I keep my distance I can take him down pretty well since his medium-range attacks are easy to dodge.
I gotta say I really like the final boss. He's a completely different type of boss gameplay than Vergil who was smart and random. I like that this guy follows patterns like a robot and once you get them down you can beat him on DMD without taking a hit. The correct strategy for beating all of his options is pretty fun and smart and it's great when it all clicks. Definitely one of my favorite bosses from a gameplay-perspective.
I'm still 60k away from Nero/Dante's last skill >_< Maybe I'll run through Human mode with the super characters and grab the last SMs I need :lol
I knew as soon as they announced Dreadnaught that it was going to have some crazy glitches. I am surprised people haven't found broken tactics with it already. It basically is like having an Untouchable item with you at all times.Dave1988 said:
It sounds to me like DMD mode is actually doable with Nero making it not really that hard but with Dante it really is what DMD is all about.
I find it funny that the mode is called "Dante Must Die" and not "Nero Must Die" but now it actually makes sense... it is clearly much harder for Dante than it is for Nero. :lol
Attack You
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Bebpo said:
Personally, I don't see the point of running through Secret Missions on harder difficulties -- unless it can affect your rankings, in which case I must admit I haven't been paying attention in this regard.
Ok I consider myself a proficient gamer when it comes to fighters, action games and the like....
How the hell are you supposed to perform Max Act in a consistent manner? It reminds me of those Just Frame moves in Tekken/VF where in Practice mode you would try to do it like 50 times and only activate it like 5 out of those 50 times. In actual combat it's even more difficult to get it off. I hope someone can figure out the exact frames so that I can get consistent with it like I did for the EWGFs in Tekken.
For the newbies: Max Act is one of the final upgrades of Nero where if you perform a Just Rev at precisely the correct frame you get 3 whole bars of Exceed filled up instantly. From its description it appears that its only three times as hard as doing the normal IR charge but it's actually more like 30 times harder. :lol
Even Just Releases aren't this hard to do. This reminds me of those mysterious and unattainable "Perfect Just Releases" in DMC3 that most people thought were a myth but they ended up being true.
How the hell are you supposed to perform Max Act in a consistent manner? It reminds me of those Just Frame moves in Tekken/VF where in Practice mode you would try to do it like 50 times and only activate it like 5 out of those 50 times. In actual combat it's even more difficult to get it off. I hope someone can figure out the exact frames so that I can get consistent with it like I did for the EWGFs in Tekken.
For the newbies: Max Act is one of the final upgrades of Nero where if you perform a Just Rev at precisely the correct frame you get 3 whole bars of Exceed filled up instantly. From its description it appears that its only three times as hard as doing the normal IR charge but it's actually more like 30 times harder. :lol
Even Just Releases aren't this hard to do. This reminds me of those mysterious and unattainable "Perfect Just Releases" in DMC3 that most people thought were a myth but they ended up being true.
Zzoram said:
they are probably DH difficulty, the scrawcrows don't die in one buster and the damage you receive is fairly moderate. Anyway, the secret missions was difficult as hell. I hated the royal guard SM too, waste alot of time there
Zzoram said:
its worth it, even if you can't do revs consistently, but when you get lucky and got a full gauge it's fucking spectacular. They raise your style points alot too. Better buy it as soon as possible, you don't wanna leave it until the last upgrade coz that's gonna cost you like... 101k proud souls.
KolosLazar16
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How do you get Dreadnaught? Thanks.
I can pull off the normal one consistently but this one is in another league entirely, even for me who is a hardcore DMC player. I saw some people playing on DMD on videos but even they can't get Max Act down (meaning they do it at random times not most of the time).Zzoram said:
Lv.4 Royal Guard move for Dante. Just Devil Trigger while in the Royal Guard style. It makes your invincible but it drains your DT faster.chaoticprout said:
KolosLazar16
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Yeah you need to buy it, because when it DOES happen it's awesome.
Dahbomb said:
As someone else said early in the thread, just think of it as a random perk that sometimes instead of a 1 bar attack you bust out a 3 bar one.
Personally I just do a 1-bar IR and then manually rev to 3 bars before entering a new battle/boss so at least I can start with a 3-bar attack. I get Max IR like 1/20 times when actually playing.