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Devil May Cry 4 |OT| of daring to defy your savior
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Zombie James
Banned
I didn't say they were hard to beat, i said they were annoying. So fucking tedious, really pisses me off at the Bloody Palace.
a Master Ninja
Member
I second this.Narag said:
figuring out that you can buster about half of the incoming major attacks in this game is freaking awesome, lol, ESPECIALLYa Master Ninja said:
countering sanctus's sparda thrusts in the second to last fight. It seems you can't buster the first one, but you can buster the ones after that.
C- Warrior
Banned
dralla said:
Really? WTF. That's awesome. So many nifty little tricks in this game. It's a damn shame so many won't even notice them.
Anyway, does it have to be a counter?
C- Warrior
Banned
X26 said:
Total opposite. Nero is just so fun with his DB and I promise you don't even know have the things he can do with his DB on bosses (well, most of them involves countering but there is a lot more to Nero than meets the eye).
Charged shot level 3, snatch, high roller IR, two IR slashes, pause, roulette, air hike to match the height, repeat, snatch to buster, grab another one and do the same without even touching teh ground.
it's like damn dude.
Dante really is for the hardcore dmc3 fans, more than anything else. Nero definitely brings back the feeling of basic combat that DMC1 did, and then some.Chamber said:I think I might be in the Nero > Dante camp right now. It's amazing how something as simple as charge shot completely changes the gameplay.
C- Warrior said:
I dunno, maybe I'll like him a bit more in future playthroughs, but to me there was jsut such a costrast between the two characters in Dante's favor that it makes Nero look pretty lame
I'll admit that I defidentely don't know all the in's and out's of Nero (never even bothered with charged shot for one thing), so that might be a factor as well.
C- Warrior
Banned
Darkpen said:
Wait? I thought it was mandatory against the final fight? No other way seems to damage him on his last little sliver of life when he goes into "sparda-stinger' mode.
Granted, I just used a holy water since I couldn't figure it out first time I played.
Also, however -- you can counter buster him at any time when he begins his sparda attack sequence. I did it on his first lunge.
I think Nero's gameplay has a sense of purity about it; there are a limited number of tools at your disposal, but each one has a depth and utility which give combat scenarios flexibility and excitement.
Dante is more dog-gone crazy, and is still VERY fun, but as posters above have stated, Nero's gameplay is reminiscent of the uncluttered DMC1 gameplay which I so adore.
While I never want to see Dante gone, I really hope Nero's gameplay mechanics are the future standard for the series. Devil May Cry 4 brings it back to DMC1 quality for me, even though DMC3 was in its own right a very good game.
I must say, though, that the music of DMC1 has never been bettered in the series. Do any of the tracks in DMC4 compare to the Nelo Angelo battle theme? If i'm not mistaken, the Angelo Credo fight sounds a little familiar at some points, but hey, could just be me.
Speaking of Angelo Credo, BEST BOSS BATTLE since Nelo Angelo, IMO. has that awesome one-on-one feeling, great setting, great character design, tough, but not ridiculous (like Dante), just great stuff. BUT HOW IRONIC IS IT that he is the only boss that YOU FIGHT ONCE.
Lol, it's the only battle I would have liked repeated
Dante is more dog-gone crazy, and is still VERY fun, but as posters above have stated, Nero's gameplay is reminiscent of the uncluttered DMC1 gameplay which I so adore.
While I never want to see Dante gone, I really hope Nero's gameplay mechanics are the future standard for the series. Devil May Cry 4 brings it back to DMC1 quality for me, even though DMC3 was in its own right a very good game.
I must say, though, that the music of DMC1 has never been bettered in the series. Do any of the tracks in DMC4 compare to the Nelo Angelo battle theme? If i'm not mistaken, the Angelo Credo fight sounds a little familiar at some points, but hey, could just be me.
Speaking of Angelo Credo, BEST BOSS BATTLE since Nelo Angelo, IMO. has that awesome one-on-one feeling, great setting, great character design, tough, but not ridiculous (like Dante), just great stuff. BUT HOW IRONIC IS IT that he is the only boss that YOU FIGHT ONCE.
Lol, it's the only battle I would have liked repeated
C- Warrior
Banned
X26 said:
Yeah, charged level 3 is cool. You don't need to be walking to charge it either, just press X (or square) and hold, and you can still tap the melee button by shifting your thumb to the Y (or /\ button) -- some just altogether map shoot to L1 though.
When you play on harder modes, you'll find that snatch and bustering to be a god-send. When you're fighting 2 frosts on DMD, and their dodging your snatches and you finally latch on to them via a devil triggered snatch/buster and start going apeshit and ultimately save your ass -- then you'll know...
Narag said:
Haha, that's the one I was missing, thanks. :lol
It even shows it in the cutscene, but I guess the air slowly killing you made me just run forward without thinking.
C- Warrior said:
If you roll out of the way on all of his attacks miss he's open for a counterattack afterwards. It's a small window and you may not be able to stun him on higher difficulties so it's probably best to not do it this way.
Danne-Danger
Member
First thing that went through my mind there was "fuck that" before I jumped back to fight them on solid ground. Luckily the platforms come back to a reasonable jump distance after a while.X26 said:
Well, after getting past Mission 5 on DMD mode (Frosts + Reapers = Not fun), I think I might have hit my limit for a little while on Mission 6 DMD Mode.
Naturally, I didn't take the stories seriously that foreshadowed exactly how DMD effected the Board Game. Here I was, one step away from the exit. I'm used to other playthroughs where I could simply hit any number on the Dice and land on the exit.
Oh, NO. That would be way too simple for Capcom.
I land a five or a six, hit the exit space, go backwards, land on a red space, and I'm promptly taken to a boss battle with Bael (Who swallowed Nero and killed him within seconds of the fight starting). Red Spaces = Bosses now?
Fuck you Dice Game. Fuck you, Capcom.
Naturally, I didn't take the stories seriously that foreshadowed exactly how DMD effected the Board Game. Here I was, one step away from the exit. I'm used to other playthroughs where I could simply hit any number on the Dice and land on the exit.
Oh, NO. That would be way too simple for Capcom.
I land a five or a six, hit the exit space, go backwards, land on a red space, and I'm promptly taken to a boss battle with Bael (Who swallowed Nero and killed him within seconds of the fight starting). Red Spaces = Bosses now?
Fuck you Dice Game. Fuck you, Capcom.
a Master Ninja
Member
I just love the Devil Bringer.Chamber said:I think I might be in the Nero > Dante camp right now. It's amazing how something as simple as charge shot completely changes the gameplay.
i think it's this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1S_VatHSsbMburgerdog said:
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
WTFFFFFFFFFFF i dont believeYasser said:
Dahbomb said:Anyone got a full list of where to find all the Secret Missions? I have some of them but I want to get them all in preparation for DMD mode.
And those vids are SICK! Dante for life!
http://guides.ign.com/guides/894664/page_4.html
Courtesy of Dralla a long time ago in this thread.
C- Warrior
Banned
pj325is said:
Ugh, there is a lot of things Capcom could have put in.
Cerberus, Agni and Rudra, Nevan, Ifrit etc. -- the animations in the previous DMC games are good enough, just re-texture them and make them ready to go in HD. In considering they'd be bonus -easter egg- weapons, I don't think people would be too critical of them if they aren't graphically as pretty as pandora or something.
And also, why not have previous bosses from previous DMC games come in. Again, it's just uprez. the textures. Animations, A.I, everything should be a go.
Why no Vergil?
Why no Boss Rush Mode?
Why no DMC1 costume Dante?
Why can't I record clips of me playing and host them online via Halo? DMC4 is made for that shit.
And damn, I understand not having co-op for the main story since the game's enemies and environments are designed for single player, but why not bloody palace co-op? It's a large, clean, circular environment...they can do the online code (they've demonstrated it well with Lost Planet) they also hvae done it before (see DMC3 SE vergil final mission)
Capcom -is so- doing a special edition
pretty much. according to Malcom90k from gfaqs:Defuser said:
"I've noticed something interesting the last few times I've used Real Impact. It seemed common sense to DT before using it, to add a bit more damage to it, but I think I've found a way to stack some extra hits on it. Perform the Real Impact, non-DT'd, then the second it connects, DT, then on the very last hit, Deactivate-DT. It sounds weird, but every time you change, it seems to add another "flash" (where you see the flash of light and the motion freezes) of damage. I haven't tested this to verify 100%, but it seemed to work on Fausts. Normally I hit Fausts with one stinger, one Full house, Real Impact, then another Full House, and maybe kick 13 if theyre still alive. When I tried this on one of them, they died instantly, didn't need any of those extra moves.
If you watch this video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1S_VatHSsbM
You can see the player deactivate DT on the last hit of his Real Impact, and it adds another flash of damage. He's skipping the first part what I'm doing (not DTing before using the move, but rather right when it connects). If this works, it could be a nice way to add more power to an already awesome move. Just thought I'd share it with you guys. "
Rocky_Balboa
Member
You can control the dice.Narag said:
C- Warrior
Banned
This is bullshit.
I have all blue orbs and secret missions done except for one, piece of shit blue orb FRAGMENT.
I get all the ones in the mine shaft in mission 3, and I really do think have all the other ones (i was checking out mycheats at 1up, and it seems I have all of them).
I know there is one with Dante, mission 17 in the streets next to fortuna inn.
Are there any combo adjudicators that are hidden? I got the one in the forest w/ dante that's behind the glass/window.
I have all blue orbs and secret missions done except for one, piece of shit blue orb FRAGMENT.
I get all the ones in the mine shaft in mission 3, and I really do think have all the other ones (i was checking out mycheats at 1up, and it seems I have all of them).
I know there is one with Dante, mission 17 in the streets next to fortuna inn.
Are there any combo adjudicators that are hidden? I got the one in the forest w/ dante that's behind the glass/window.
C- Warrior said:
I had this problem earlier, there's a combo adjudicator right at the start of mission 15 that you may have passed because of the gas that drains your health. There's also another on Mission 12 after you defeat the knights, take the stairs on the right instead of leaving and keep going up until you find a combo adjudicator.
Rocky_Balboa
Member
Did you get the one for Dante which is in the "escape in 10 minutes"-mission?C- Warrior said:
more berial rapage, this time by nero. i didn't know you could avoid his huge blast like this! http://youtube.com/watch?v=0BO1bXBFGnI&feature=related
akachan ningen
Member
Yasser said:
That's cool. I wonder if the backstep move with gilgamesh also has that kind of invincibility.
Yeah, Nero's shuffle move is dirty.
I've managed to get myself out of many a sticky situation using that against Mephisto's red nail attacks, white knight charges and even against Blitz. The only thing I had trouble against was projectiles but I may have timed it wrong.
There was a one or two attacks against the Viper boss that shuffle didnt seem to go through either, i'll have to have a think.
Against lower grunts it helps if you have Snatch 3 as you can yank their ass back down.
I've managed to get myself out of many a sticky situation using that against Mephisto's red nail attacks, white knight charges and even against Blitz. The only thing I had trouble against was projectiles but I may have timed it wrong.
There was a one or two attacks against the Viper boss that shuffle didnt seem to go through either, i'll have to have a think.
Against lower grunts it helps if you have Snatch 3 as you can yank their ass back down.
