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Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers |OT| New World Order, Old World Chaos
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cj_iwakura
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I'm guessing he's familiar with them at very least. I'm confused why he's hating on the script of all things.
Also the whole embargo breaking thing is a little concerning.
exmachina64
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NeoGAF would be so much more fun if we added Japanese honorifics.
MarcoZombieCannon
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That could be a fun filter to toss onto everyone when the next April Fool's rolls around.
Playing it now (Jp version) and I've cleared the first 3 dungeons.
It's pretty good, but I won't comment much as it's just the beginning. No real challenge for now but I guess that will change soon.
There's one thing I'm wondering, though, concerning SMT in general.
I must confess that while I've played many games in the series, I always feel overwhelmed and confused by the number of demons/races and the fusion system. I recruit and fuse without planing anything at all for the most part and generally end up with a bunch of worthless demons dealing far less damage than the MC and dying in 2 or 3 hits =(
So, how do you choose which demons you're going to use?
Do you go with a theme (light-chaos, heavy-hitters, angels, dragons, etc.)? Do you choose primarily based on parameters and skills, planing everything in order to create the perfect party? Is there any particular skill/demon you always make sure to have? Do you follow recommendations/FAQs for each game?
It's pretty good, but I won't comment much as it's just the beginning. No real challenge for now but I guess that will change soon.
There's one thing I'm wondering, though, concerning SMT in general.
I must confess that while I've played many games in the series, I always feel overwhelmed and confused by the number of demons/races and the fusion system. I recruit and fuse without planing anything at all for the most part and generally end up with a bunch of worthless demons dealing far less damage than the MC and dying in 2 or 3 hits =(
So, how do you choose which demons you're going to use?
Do you go with a theme (light-chaos, heavy-hitters, angels, dragons, etc.)? Do you choose primarily based on parameters and skills, planing everything in order to create the perfect party? Is there any particular skill/demon you always make sure to have? Do you follow recommendations/FAQs for each game?
buddha0991
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You are all cheapasses, cheapass-kun.
You could make it anytime someone uses an honorific in Persona Community, it goes away lol
You could make it anytime someone uses an honorific in Persona Community, it goes away lol
Deified Data
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I think the idea of ancient demons using modern slang is awesome and totally appropriate for this game's setting.
cj_iwakura
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It really depends on the game. In Persona and core SMT, you always want to have all the elemental bases covered, since the games rely on extra turns(and damage) from exploiting weaknesses.
Soul Hackers is more about physical and magic, elements aren't as crucial.
What is broken as hell are buffs/debuffs. So I never went anywhere without at least a Tarukaja/nda & Rakukaja/nda demon.
GeekyDad
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But experience with the series, or even the genre for that matter, doesn't mean a reviewer can't offer something of value to readers. Oftentimes it's the newcomers that offer the most fresh take on a game, especially when it's part of a venerated series.
That being said, I love the quips you get from demons in these games. Not everyone's into that I guess. Overall, though, the review seemed very fair and comprehensive.
As an aside, I remember reading some scathing reviews from Mark Bozon years ago that only piqued my interest more about those games. It wasn't because he was ragging on the games and I wanted to prove to myself he was wrong; it was the details about those games that just appealed to me. One man's trash and all that...
One easy thing to remember about fusion is to try and only use Light or Neutral affinity demons (which is separate from Law-Neutral-Chaos alignment). They generally have better skills and are more useful. Demons of the Deity, Megami, Kishin, Fury, Dragon, Fairy, Genma, etc. are almost always useful, and they can, for the most part, be only made with Light and Neutral ingredients. There are exceptions, but it's easier just to remember this. Dark-affinity races like Wilders and Raptors will just lead you around in unfuseable circles. Playing the Japanese version of Soul Hackers, 80% of my compendium near the end was either Light or Neutral, so I had a lot of Dark fusion to do to complete it.
Keep that in mind and keep your demons to your level and you should do fine.
SpaceBridge
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I bought a demon with loads of buff spells but he won't obey me. What do I do?
cj_iwakura
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Stuff him full of liquor.
TurnipFritters
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Is it Goblin? Go to the liquor store at the shopping center and buy the item that'll reassign his type to "kind."
Thanks for the hints. I'll try and do that.
If possible, I'll give the important buff spells to my zouma so that I don't lose them with fusions.
You should first raise his trust meter by choosing the GO command or giving orders that match his personality.
EDIT: or give him liquor, yeah, I forgot that.
MarcoZombieCannon
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True Goddess Reincarnation, IIRC.
TurnipFritters
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It is an ancient proverb. You are probably more familiar with the English translation:
buddha0991
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It is an ancient proverb. You are probably more familiar with the English translation:
I had the displeasure/pleasure of actually watching that ova
Goddess Reincarnation being the title of the novel which served as a basis to the very first game and True being added after the team left Namco to form Atlus.
bestpersonevar
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When will this be available on the e-shop?
cj_iwakura
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Welcome home.
buddha0991
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MarcoZombieCannon
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:O Jealous!
Welcome home.
I was just wondering if he's played some of the other ones so he could compare the translation in SH to the others (particularly the ones with demon negotiation as he didn't like the translation for one of the demons' lines). Like, the translation could be similar to the other SMTs, and nobody would have a problem, but he does for whatever reason (personal quirk?).
I think outside of that kinda weird complaint, his actual review is good.
cj_iwakura
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Well that's interesting. Auto-scrolling dialogue, it's like I'm playing a VN.
(It can be turned off, but I didn't think the option was for that.)
VA is substantial for sure.
I laughed at the name they delete from the system in the very first scene. Watch carefully.
(It can be turned off, but I didn't think the option was for that.)
VA is substantial for sure.
I laughed at the name they delete from the system in the very first scene. Watch carefully.
Kazuma Kaneko
cj_iwakura
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The VA for main's father, oh wow.
The translation is fantastic so far, NPC dialogue has just as much flavor as I hoped.
And as for honorifics?
Yes for shopkeep VA. Artist = best
Ragna. No doubt about it, that's Patrick Seitz. 
The translation is fantastic so far, NPC dialogue has just as much flavor as I hoped.
And as for honorifics?
Nope!
Yes for shopkeep VA. Artist = best
exmachina64
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My life would be much poorer if they hadn't.
Worthintendo
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out of interest is this up on the eShop yet?
TurnipFritters
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My Little Sister Can't Possibly Galactic Punt
cj_iwakura
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kunonabi
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Every now and then life is truly worth living.
Pierre Levegh
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Acquired. Is there a canonical name for the main character?
Keiji Minegishi is his name in the novel. Not really 'canon' though.
Therealbeatris
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I'm waiting on eshop too, is there any streetpass elements?