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[SatelliteOfLove]

Will I change my avatar? Hrm...Kaneko Goodness™ is awful hard to resist.

Mem Aleph, mang. Mem Aleph.

All in all she's just a...nother brick in The Wall.

Edit. NYOINK. Thanks man.

 

[cj_iwakura]

That LP probably wasn't very good anyway so I would feel bad about reading it too.

It was pretty great! I'd have never cleared the Saturn version(or learned how to read Recarm and other stuff) without it.

 

[Tyrant Rave]

That LP probably wasn't very good anyway so I would feel bad about reading it too.

Poor BandyAid... Would've been nice to dive into this without knowing the twists.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Poor BandyAid... Would've been nice to dive into this without knowing the twists.

You're in the same boat as me, but look at it this way, now we get the entire trip and not just the highlights.

 

[CSX]

Found out theres a demon called Strawberry Frost...


endgame demon right?!!!

and I found a track of the arranged soundtrack called

Spoiler

Naomi Battle

. After reading the OP, does that imply a special boss battle ?

 

[Eirikr]

Mem Aleph, mang. Mem Aleph.

Well, I found an easy way around her if you want to go that route. (SJ final boss massacre spoilers)

You're gonna need a bunch of coins. Get shakin~

Do we know how the StreetPassing stuff was changed for the US release? In the Japanese version, just buying D-Soul with play coins didn't work towards evolving Nemechi. It took nearly 120 tags to fully evolve along one path.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Found out theres a demon called Strawberry Frost...


endgame demon right?!!!

and I found a track of the arranged soundtrack called

Spoiler

Naomi Battle

. After reading the OP, does that imply a special boss battle ?

It's not as bad as you're fearing.

Spoiler

It's the battle theme when you PLAY as her.

 

[Just take it with you.]

I also read the LP, but it was so long ago that I barely remember anything from it. Then again, spoilers tend not to bother me.

Also, listening to some of the tunes for this game makes me miss Toshiko Tasaki. I love her style.

 

[Effect]

Looking forward to this as I've never played this series before. However I'm not sure what I'm getting it. Were the visual simply cleaned up or redone? I really can't tell from the video or screen shots that are on the 3DS eShop. Is there going to be a 3D effect? Overall how many hours should one be able to get out of the game? New Game+?

 

[cj_iwakura]

Looking forward to this as I've never played this series before. However I'm not sure what I'm getting it. Were the visual simply cleaned up or redone? Is there going to be a 3D effect? Overall how many hours should one be able to get out of the game? New Game+?

The character portraits are higher res and they sped up the gameplay. A 3D effect seems a given, but I'm not sure to be honest.

And I'd say 30-40+, easy.

 

[Soriku]

Found out theres a demon called Strawberry Frost...


endgame demon right?!!!

Looked this up, had no idea there was a Strawberry Frost. He's lvl 40 according to SMT wiki.

There's also Lucifrost (Lucifroz?)! Lvl 81 demon.

And Snappy the angelic dolphin, lol:

 

[Eirikr]

The character portraits are higher res and they sped up the gameplay. A 3D effect seems a given, but I'm not sure to be honest.

And I'd say 30-40+, easy.

The 3D gives the type of depth of field you'd expect in dungeons, but inessential considering nothing will be directly in front of you most of the time. It's more noticeable in menus and battle (looks okay with sprites), but I honestly had it turned off the majority of my playthrough--though let's be honest, 3D is not what you're here for.

 

[Effect]

Still wish I knew what I was going to be getting visually though.

 

[KarmaCow]

Still wish I knew what I was going to be getting visually though.

Well there is this 10min gameplay video.

This is more of a port with new anime sequences than a remake.

 

[Eirikr]

Still wish I knew what I was going to be getting visually though.

Frankly, the most noticeable change between SAT/PS1 and 3DS are that the menus and IU got a slight touchup, I guess mostly to take advantage of the wider screen. The textures in the dungeons look pretty smeary, but anything 2D--being sprites or prerendered backgrounds--still holds up. Plus lots of original 32-bit era FMVs. This is definitely like playing a Saturn game on your 3DS.

 

[Man God]

Yup, its around 1.8GB which is roughly 1.5x bigger than FE, I guess SMTIV will be the same. Thank god for cheap SD Cards, I bought a 32GB for this. I also hope Nintendo updates this in future to show actually memory instead of blocks.

Divide by 8. Bam, you now have it in MegaBytes instead of Megabits.

 

[jello44]

Oh wow, totally missed this thread...

I'll be playing whenever Best Buy sends it and UPS drops it off. Hopefully it's not too long after release. ;p

 

[Effect]

Frankly, the most noticeable change between SAT/PS1 and 3DS are that the menus and IU got a slight touchup, I guess mostly to take advantage of the wider screen. The textures in the dungeons look pretty smeary, but anything 2D--being sprites or prerendered backgrounds--still holds up. Plus lots of original 32-bit era FMVs. This is definitely like playing a Saturn game on your 3DS.

Thanks. This makes things clearer. I've been trying to decide between this and Etrian Odyssey 4. I'm really interested in the scifi setting and that it's an RPG but that it seems to simply be a port with just a handful of things that have improved the game visually is giving me some pause.

 

[Varna]

I know this is a port basically... but it just seems like so little effort was put into it. The last few Megaten games all have animated sprites. Just seems like a huge step back.

I've had this pre-ordered since it first went up. Been looking forward to this for 10 years.

 

[Soriku]

I know this is a port basically... but it just seems like so little effort was put into it. The last few Megaten games all have animated sprites. Just seems like a huge step back.

But this game does have animated sprites. Stop watching videos of the Saturn version lolz.

 

[TurnipFritters]

I know this is a port basically... but it just seems like so little effort was put into it. The last few Megaten games all have animated sprites. Just seems like a huge step back.

Isn't Strange Journey the only one in recent history that's had animated sprites? I guess Survivor had the map sprites, but the battle ones were even more static than Soul Hackers'

But this game does have animated sprites. Stop watching videos of the Saturn version lolz.

There is no difference in animation between the Saturn and 3DS versions.

 

[Varna]

But this game does have animated sprites. Stop watching videos of the Saturn version lolz.

No idea what you are talking about. Some sprites move around and have some effects. Nothing like Strange Journey.

Isn't Strange Journey the only one in recent history that's had animated sprites? I guess Survivor had the map sprites, but the battle ones were even more static than Soul Hackers'

Ah. For some reason I thought Devil Survivor had animated sprites. It's not even close to being a deal breaker. But it is a bit disappointing.

 

[Soriku]

Saturn SH had similarly animated sprites? My bad, then. I haven't seen videos of that version in a while and assumed they were static.

 

[Basileus777]

Have any of the SMT up-ports had any significant visual improvements?

 

[Varna]

Have any of the SMT up-ports had any significant visual improvements?

PSX Version of SMT I, II and If... had smooth scrolling text!

EDIT: I see your point though. I just figured they might have started laying the ground work for SMT4 with this game.

 

[Pierre Levegh]

Day 1 for me. I've had on pre-order for a couple of months. I remember when the original Devil Summoner(?) was profiled in Gamefan years ago. I never thought I would get to play it in English!

 

[EDarkness]

Had to choose between Soul Hackers and Pandora's Tower.

Spoiler

...PT won

I'll pick this up eventually...

Same here. Next month.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Ah. For some reason I thought Devil Survivor had animated sprites. It's not even close to being a deal breaker. But it is a bit disappointing.

idk Break Record might since they could just pull them from SMT4 and so far they haven't shown off any in-battle stuff, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

 

[Marche90]

Looked this up, had no idea there was a Strawberry Frost. He's lvl 40 according to SMT wiki.

There's also Lucifrost (Lucifroz?)! Lvl 81 demon.

And Snappy the angelic dolphin, lol:

That little guy really can pull off every costume.
With that said, if I don't see a SMTIVMC version of Jack Frost, I'll be disappointed. Raihou and Demonee-ho FTW!

and the second one is... uh... certainly interesting :lol

 

[Effect]

So if it's a straight port with no significant improvements why the full price? Just because it's never been released?

 

[Eirikr]

That little guy really can pull off every costume.
With that said, if I don't see a SMTIVMC version of Jack Frost, I'll be disappointed. Raihou and Demonee-ho FTW!

Well, there never was a Heetoshura/Demi-feend, but you could probably make an easy argument that Black Frost filled that gap.

And if Snappy somehow makes it into SMT IV, I'll be beside myself.

 

[Varna]

So if it's a straight port with significant improvements why the full price? Just because it's never been released?

I'm sure it's a pretty big localization effort.

I don't mind to be honest.

 

[TurnipFritters]

So if it's a straight port with significant improvements why the full price? Just because it's never been released?

Because the vast majority of the dialogue is voiced and that does not come cheap.

 

[Soriku]

So if it's a straight port with significant improvements why the full price? Just because it's never been released?

Well...it's fully voiced. It also has like 30 new demons and a few new optional bosses.

 

[Man God]

Also it's completely fair in my book to release an improved up port of a game that's now three generations old that never came out before in a region at full price.

 

[SpaceBridge]

Is the gameplay on top screen? If so, how's the 3D?

 

[Varna]

Also it's completely fair in my book to release an improved up port of a game that's now three generations old that never came out before in a region at full price.

I give them lots of credit for this one. I'm sure they will try and market this to the Persona crowd but this game is very likely to bomb. Basically this seems like an effort to right the wrong and just localize something the fans of the mainline series will enjoy.

 

[ohlawd]

I give them lots of credit for this one. I'm sure they will try and market this to the Persona crowd but this game is very likely to bomb. Basically this seems like an effort to right the wrong and just localize something the fans of the mainline series will enjoy.

How? I believe there are no waifus in this game so the Persona fans won't like it.

 

[cj_iwakura]

How? I believe there are no waifus in this game so the Persona fans won't like it.

It has a fantastic story, and if nothing else, Persona fans appreciate that much about the series, so hopefully they make the jump.

 

[Man God]

It has a fantastic story, and if nothing else, Persona fans appreciate that much about the series, so hopefully they make the jump.

Persona 2: Innocent Sin PSP has a good story and they really cared about that.

 

[Error]

How? I believe there are no waifus in this game so the Persona fans won't like it.

I'm pretty sure Nemissa will qualify as a waifu to a lot of people.

 

[jello44]

Persona 2: Innocent Sin PSP has a good story and they really cared about that.

Well, I did MY part and bought it day 1. *shrug*

 

[cj_iwakura]

Persona 2: Innocent Sin PSP has a good story and they really cared about that.

Ouch.

Yeah, not good.


But, uh, this is on the 3DS and cyberpunk?

 

[1emons]

Looked this up, had no idea there was a Strawberry Frost. He's lvl 40 according to SMT wiki.

There's also Lucifrost (Lucifroz?)! Lvl 81 demon.

Oh my god. The Frost family is a gift of the universe.

 

[jello44]

Ouch.

Yeah, not good.


But, uh, this is on the 3DS and cyberpunk?

You had me at cyberpunk.

 

[Man God]

Ouch.

Yeah, not good.


But, uh, this is on the 3DS and cyberpunk?

It's got a slightly better story and is dropping when 3DS has a hot JRPG hand going, it hopefully will do OK.

 

[Young Magus]

Nice work on the OT cj, Day 1 for sure.

Now to decide on the method for getting the game, eShop or Physical copy? Decisions Decisions help me GAF!!!!

Oh and I'am taking this

 

[Varna]

Ouch.

Yeah, not good.


But, uh, this is on the 3DS and cyberpunk?

And that game had Persona in the title! You would think many people would have bought in on impulse and been disappointed afterwards... then we might have had a shot at P2EP PSP!

There really isn't much hope for this one sales wise. From the impressions of people who have played the original it's not even that good of a dungeon crawler. :/

 

[Man God]

Worst part about IS failing to sell well over in the west is that it ruined a perfectly good plan for trying to sell this and SMT IV on the 3DS; rename them Persona.

 

[jello44]

Nice work on the OT cj, Day 1 for sure.

Now to decide on the method for getting the game, eShop or Physical copy? Decisions Decisions help me GAF!!!!

I always go physical if I can help it, in case the off chance you don't like it, you can re-sell it.