I would say that giving Nemissa agility is more vital than giving her intelligence. Nemissa with a decent agility stat can nuke enemies before they can even act, and she can help out in a pinch with quick healing spells if something goes wrong.
Yeah, but it's easier for her to wrack up extra Agility points with equipment since she doesn't really need to keep her gear upgraded as much as the Hero does (The Nyan Claw and Foot Escape can be accessed relatively early for an extra four points to agility, then later in the game you can trade up for Roller Blades for another agility point).
Yeah, but it's easier for her to wrack up extra Agility points with equipment since she doesn't really need to keep her gear upgraded as much as the Hero does (The Nyan Claw and Foot Escape can be accessed relatively early for an extra four points to agility, then later in the game you can trade up for Roller Blades for another agility point).
Thanks, one more thing I'm confused about. When I run out of Mag and experience green flashes, what exactly is happening? Health seems to stay the same. I probably have too many monsters in my stock, so I run around and have to refill it with monster fights. Issue is if I get unlucky I go a few steps(with 0 M) before getting to a fight.
Thanks, one more thing I'm confused about. When I run out of Mag and experience green flashes, what exactly is happening? Health seems to stay the same. I probably have too many monsters in my stock, so I run around and have to refill it with monster fights. Issue is if I get unlucky I go a few steps(with 0 M) before getting to a fight.
Are you traveling with a full party? I usually keep just me and Nemissa and two other demons until bosses, and I can't give Mag away I've got so much of the stuff. Sold about 200k worth just a short while ago. Not sure how you're running out so fast.
Thanks, one more thing I'm confused about. When I run out of Mag and experience green flashes, what exactly is happening? Health seems to stay the same. I probably have too many monsters in my stock, so I run around and have to refill it with monster fights. Issue is if I get unlucky I go a few steps(with 0 M) before getting to a fight.
I have no idea if this has been mentioned before in the thread (when I try to search it I get timeouts, sorry!) but while playing the game just hard crashed my 3DS. I was in the
museum
, during a battle. I think one of my demons was about to cast Bufu?
Anyway, I had to hold power on my 3DS, because not even the Home button was responsive...
I have no idea if this has been mentioned before in the thread (when I try to search it I get timeouts, sorry!) but while playing the game just hard crashed my 3DS. I was in the
museum
, during a battle. I think one of my demons was about to cast Bufu?
Anyway, I had to hold power on my 3DS, because not even the Home button was responsive...
Yeah, it's come up. It seems to only happen during spell effects. I had it happen twice in the planetarium, then I turned off the battle effects and have had no problems since.
Yeah, it's come up. It seems to only happen during spell effects. I had it happen twice in the planetarium, then I turned off the battle effects and have had no problems since.
Are you traveling with a full party? I usually keep just me and Nemissa and two other demons until bosses, and I can't give Mag away I've got so much of the stuff. Sold about 200k worth just a short while ago. Not sure how you're running out so fast.
Still early on in the game so I was probably just overusing by having a full party as you said. Is there a place that shows exactly how much each demon will use with every step?
Edit: Main reason I was using a full party was to spread the damage around so no one ever got hit too bad. Also still getting used to the fact that demons don't level up.
Edit 2: Just experienced by first freeze by bufu. God damn it, was this in the orignal Japanese 3DS release? First time I've had to power down a 3DS all the way since the system released :/
So I've made it there, and I got stuck so I turned the full map hack on, and I see in each music box room that there is a room that I can't get into, and I see that there are warps in the basement that lead to places where I have not been.
I went up staircase and opened the chests along the way and on the top floor there is a staircase that I cannot access.
Did I miss a piece of dialogue or something? What am I supposed to be doing?
The "CP" value in the demon's status gives you that information (it's right above the personality listing). If a demon has a CP of 5, for example, it'll consume 5 MAG with each step.
Maybe the period between the story access to Yurashima and the plant blocks you then, cause I wasn't able to get into it.
So I just reloaded the file before your avatar and just beat the highway boss, so not sure what could've been done afterwards.
The "CP" value in the demon's status gives you that information (it's right above the personality listing). If a demon has a CP of 5, for example, it'll consume 5 MAG with each step.
Thanks! One more question, is there a way to increase the amount of demons your comp can hold in reserve at once? Like to keep some ready for fusion purposes but the amount of space is rather limited.
This, along with the other SMT games make me wish all games used FFIV's map system where you got a reward upon filling every inch. I always do it anyway ;-;
Grinding when you are level 80 is so slow. Enemy always seem to give 150XP unless the encounters gets a second wave or you meet a rare monster in the post game dungeon. At least I have mags to burn to try to make the high level demons. I have over 350k mags right now and 600k yen by selling the drops from the area w/ finders keepers. Is it worth it to buy the megido fire? It's been added to the store and it's like a whopping million yen.
Edit: Main reason I was using a full party was to spread the damage around so no one ever got hit too bad. Also still getting used to the fact that demons don't level up.
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about demons getting K.O.ed or anything. It's pretty cheap to revive/heal if you use one of the Healing Stations inside a dungeon (don't go to the overpriced shop to heal).
But so long as you keep your party to a max of four outside boss battles, you should start to accumulate copious amounts of mag, which in turn will give you ample Yen as well.
I really enjoy the fact that demons don't level up in this game. It really drives the need to continuously recruit/fuse new demons.
Oh man, I literally stumbled onto the final boss and defeated it.
I guess this is another thing about the modern MegaTen games that have spoiled me; they really make it obvious when a boss is coming up even by how the room preceding the boss looks like.
Personally, it wasn't too bad (at least not as annoying as the high encounter-rate in the dungeon).
I killed Apsu, so I got the physical final boss. Hell, the boss's first form was more annoying when it started to spam Ultimate Laser; after fully buffing/debuffing, the final boss couldn't do much. Even my physical attacks were doing 1,000-ish damage. And outside of an annoying attack where he randomly banishes demons back to the comp, he could barely scratch my front row of strike-resistant demons.
In all, I thought the game was pretty cool. Dunno if I'm going to hit the post-game right now
And I think I'll hold off a bit for the second playthrough to get the new ending and fight the Raidous.
It sure did show what worked and what didn't work (I am personally not that bothered by the loss of MAG) for the series going forward. Although, I am slightly bothered that I am going to see a lot of these demon sprites in SMT IV.
It displays the equipment you have on the bottom screen and the stats on it. The stats of the thing you're highlighting in the store is at the top of the top screen. You have to do a little math, but it's there.
Ugh that demon took forever to obtain and it's not really good
Demon Spoiler
Frost Five isn't a very good demon. I get the fact that it repels everything except almighty but his skill set and stats are terrible. The only good thing about it is the conversation with Victor at the Goumaden when they ask him to fuse them and he tell them that the power of the hearts is enough to fuse them together. I was surprised the convo was voiced. All these requests and fusions for something that disappointing :S
It's also really expensive mags wise to fuse the high level demons. To make the last General or Hero your Zoma must be level 80 or higher and the only way to level it up at the end is to fuse it with high level demons you summon using the compendium.
Ugh that demon took forever to obtain and it's not really good
Demon Spoiler
Frost Five isn't a very good demon. I get the fact that it repels everything except almighty but his skill set and stats are terrible. The only good thing about it is the conversation with Victor at the Goumaden when they ask him to fuse them and he tell them that the power of the hearts is enough to fuse them together. I was surprised the convo was voiced. All these requests and fusions for something that disappointing :S
It's also really expensive mags wise to fuse the high level demons. To make the last General or Hero your Zoma must be level 80 or higher and the only way to level it up at the end is to fuse it with high level demons you summon using the compendium.
Amami Monolith, I'm trying to enter in the second passwords now
, but it's dragging on seemingly endlessly. It's the least fun I've had in the game so far, not because it's terribly difficult but that it feels longer probably because of the encounter rate. I suppose I should get a demon with Estoma.
Overall I'm still very much enjoying the game. And if I understand correctly I only have one more dungeon to go? If so I hope it's better than this one. A part of me is sad that I'm almost finished with the game, but it's been one hell of a ride and I can't wait to start a NG+.
Amami Monolith, I'm trying to enter in the second passwords now
, but it's dragging on seemingly endlessly. It's the least fun I've had in the game so far, not because it's terribly difficult but that it feels longer probably because of the encounter rate. I suppose I should get a demon with Estoma.
Overall I'm still very much enjoying the game. And if I understand correctly I only have one more dungeon to go? If so I hope it's better than this one. A part of me is sad that I'm almost finished with the game, but it's been one hell of a ride and I can't wait to start a NG+.
My finally copy finally came in today! I probably won't start it anytime soon, since I'm still playing Fire Emblem, but I figured I'd save myself the trouble if the game becomes rare later. Plus the first print coming with the slip case and arrange cd was an incentive, too lol. I'm slightly disappointed that Atlus went with fold out instructions instead of a traditional instruction manual like Code of Princess received, though.
Ugh you can't save in the extra game. It took forever to beat all the rooms and puzzle and I just can't beat
Raidou and company
. I die in 1-2 hit :S. The boss just before that was really annoying too. Had to cheese it with attack and magical mirror. Time to fuse the mitama that increase agility with all demons.
Well guys, sight unseen and knowing nothing about it other than it was a SMT game and a first-person dungeon crawler I ordered this today based purely on the absolute blast I had playing Persona 3 back in the day. Also, mixing tech and the occult is just about the most badass thing ever.
It was a dead heat between this, Fire Emblem, and Etrian Odyssey 4 and considering that I'll eventually buy them all but I can assume that the two Atlus games will likely explode in price before long and FE is definitely on the E-shop and will never increase in price I chose one of the Atlus games.
I've gotta say I'm pretty stoked to receive it in the mail after reading the excellent Destructoid review. It's been a long while since I've played an old-school dungeon crawler, and this one looks damned fine.
Solo. I ain't hidin' behind no woman! *slicks back hair*
Currently grinding for MAG at the Sea Ark. I'm finally to a point that fighting every battle doesn't give me enough MAG to break even. Once I think I have enough I'll actually start Algon Microelectronics. (I may or may not get addicted to the casino in the mean-time.)
Solo. I ain't hidin' behind no woman! *slicks back hair*
Currently grinding for MAG at the Sea Ark. I'm finally to a point that fighting every battle doesn't give me enough MAG to break even. Once I think I have enough I'll actually start Algon Microelectronics. (I may or may not get addicted to the casino in the mean-time.)
Are demons dead for good if they get killed in battle? They were out of my party after they died early in the game. Whats the difference between Swords and Guns? From my experience for SMT games its better to use your demons since they have more options and can exploit more weaknesses.
Are demons dead for good if they get killed in battle? They were out of my party after they died early in the game. Whats the difference between Swords and Guns? From my experience for SMT games its better to use your demons since they have more options and can exploit more weaknesses.
Does this game also have that thing like in the main SMT and Persona games where if you exploit weaknesses you can get free hits and vice versa with enemys as well?
Does this game also have that thing like in the main SMT and Persona games where if you exploit weaknesses you can get free hits and vice versa with enemys as well?
Nope, you just do extra damage. For demons who have a calm personality and act "wisely" in this way, you will also gain loyalty. Instead of gaining turns, battles are more about developing loyalty. Exploiting weaknesses does make battles go much quicker though... the extra damage is usually pretty considerable. And in the case of demons weak against death spells, they seem to work more often than they did in Nocturne. Can't comment on old mainline SMT games, since I've only really tipped my toes in the water as far as those are concerned. I just don't like playing old console games on computers these days, so that's my main barrier of entry. Hopefully they release SMT 1 and 2 in english one day as some kind of dual release, but I kinda doubt it
I watched a video on Nico Nico about that battle. It was like I suspected the guy doing it have all of his demons with maxed stats with 30 and 40 and place the MC in the backrow while guarding most of the time. I will need a lot of mitamas
Also the number next to your money that depletes as you walk , what exactly is it for? The manual doesn't really explain it enough other than you use it for summoning demons and you can also sell it for money.What happens if you run out of it?
Also the number next to your money that depletes as you walk , what exactly is it for? The manual doesn't really explain it enough other than you use it for summoning demons and you can also sell it for money.What happens if you run out of it?
That's magnetite. That's basically demon currency. The more demons you have in your party, the more that currency depletes per step in a dungeon. The stronger the demon, the more it depletes per step as well. You get magnetite from battles mainly, but also from negotiation, chests, and from exchanging yen for magnetite in the shopping district (but really, you should be exchanging magnetite for yen generally). When your magnetite depletes to zero, your demons begin taking damage every step. So always go into a dungeon with at least 1000 magnetite. You may also consider avoiding a full six party team as well. If you can fuse one or two awesome demons while having just one mediocre demon leftover... that' not necessarily bad. You won't have a full party, but you'll have a stronger party and you might burn through less of that currency.
You can also use magnetite to give out when negotiating with demons. I think the amount necessary is some multiple of their level, but I'm not sure (maybe 100?? I dunno). Just be wary of the above when giving it out in negotiations.
That's magnetite. That's basically demon currency. The more demons you have in your party, the more that currency depletes per step in a dungeon. The stronger the demon, the more it depletes per step as well. You get magnetite from battles mainly, but also from negotiation, chests, and from exchanging yen for magnetite in the shopping district (but really, you should be exchanging magnetite for yen generally). When your magnetite depletes to zero, your demons begin taking damage every step. So always go into a dungeon with at least 1000 magnetite. You may also consider avoiding a full six party team as well. If you can fuse one or two awesome demons while having just one mediocre demon leftover... that' not necessarily bad. You won't have a full party, but you'll have a stronger party and you might burn through less of that currency.
Damn thats a lot of micro management! I hope the game isn't too hard to play through , I've only beat SMT Nocturne on Normal and Persona 3 and 4 as far as the SMT family of games goes. How does this one compare?
