cj_iwakura
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The dungeon after Amami is the last one.
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Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers |OT| New World Order, Old World Chaos
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NeonZ
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The final dungeon is fairly small, and after that there are only post game extra dungeons, which are all small too.
Augemitbutter
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You can save him on NG+ by picking a certain choice during the Madam Ginko conversation and staying with him at the base once he's suspected of betraying the group.
buddha0991
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As a big megaten fan, your review was really fair, but it's funny reading the very long comment, when many megaten fans criticized Soul Hackers as being too short
cj_iwakura
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Meguro didn't compose Soul Hackers, it was mostly Tsukasa Masuko.
Meguro contributed along with Toshiko Tasaki.
The sad part is this is Masuko's last work on a megaten. I really miss his electric style :'(
cj_iwakura
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Yep, but Meguro only did a couple tracks, and he often gets credited for the whole thing. My favorite tracks were all Masuko's style.
insignia16
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After putting Soul Hackers on my backlog after much frustration trying to get the final Manji (you all remember, I feel the pain) I finally beat the boss on the standard run. Whelp, time to fuse some final demons and head on over to New Game+.
Maybe its just me but I found Soul Hackers to be much more of a challenge than SMT IV. Never had my heart race so much during a battle.
Maybe its just me but I found Soul Hackers to be much more of a challenge than SMT IV. Never had my heart race so much during a battle.
cj_iwakura
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Soul Hackers sure isn't as easy to break. I can't believe how many bosses have weaknesses in SMT IV.
Also, it's $26.90 at Play-asia this week.
http://www.play-asia.com/shin-megam...rs-comes-with-free-paOS-13-49-en-70-5uov.html
Also, it's $26.90 at Play-asia this week.
http://www.play-asia.com/shin-megam...rs-comes-with-free-paOS-13-49-en-70-5uov.html
insignia16
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Yeah, you have a point there. There's also the fact that you can bypass having to look for weaknesses once you have a team that cam spam almighty attacks and Luster Candy/Debilitate for a quick boss sweep. Made the final dungeons seem like mini bosses with extra health.
Dragon1893
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So amazon.uk says this will release on the 20th but on the eshop it says 25th. Is this normal?
Dragon1893
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Damn you! I just want it asap. Why isn't it on the eshop on the 20th? Might as well wait for amazon.
Augemitbutter
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didn't know it was getting a physical release. nice.
PAL copy arrived this morning, finally got around to playing it.
It's great so far, I love the atmosphere, characters and 90s CG, feels so right.
Never played this before but people said it was close to Strange Journey, can't help but disagree - game feels very close in style to mainline SMT1 & 2, Strange Journey was less story and more dungeon crawling.
I've reached the ice warehouse and my game froze in battle - a quick google tells me it was a common problem even for US release, so at least this isn't a DS:Overclocked repeat. Only potential solution so far seems to be disable battle animations.
It's great so far, I love the atmosphere, characters and 90s CG, feels so right.
Never played this before but people said it was close to Strange Journey, can't help but disagree - game feels very close in style to mainline SMT1 & 2, Strange Journey was less story and more dungeon crawling.
I've reached the ice warehouse and my game froze in battle - a quick google tells me it was a common problem even for US release, so at least this isn't a DS:Overclocked repeat. Only potential solution so far seems to be disable battle animations.
I hope you will enjoy it. It's old but a great game.
Spieler Eins
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Not a single electronic chain that had the game around here (instead, shit tons of little kids circling around GTA5 copies, sigh) but at least some Gamestop got 2 copies. Makes me curious how long they gonna bother bringing superniche games to Europe. Feels bad, man.
Anyway, it's my first MegaTen game, not sure what to expect, I basically picked it up for a ,,fresh'' throwback into the late 90s.
Anyway, it's my first MegaTen game, not sure what to expect, I basically picked it up for a ,,fresh'' throwback into the late 90s.
I think you will definitely get that feeling.
Dragon1893
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Looks like the pal release barely registered in this thread. Was expecting more activity. My copy should arrive tomorrow and I was looking forward to having some gaffers along for the ride.
cj_iwakura
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I know quite a few PAL-lers who bought it(or rented it, hi Dantis).
Hopefully they'll be along, unless a mod would care to update the title.
Dragon1893
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OK, cool.
toastyToast
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Got this as well and played about an hour. Not too much to comment on yet but game's view of the future is hilariously quaint.
SatelliteOfLove
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Enemies focus fire; I kept the slowest demon a heal spell who could mop up and top off.
Micromanagement in Megaten is part and parcel.
Autobattle in Megaten is baiting the game over screen.
It was the right move. I don't want to pay full price for this.
I'm three hours in, and enjoying it. Demon negotiation is total garbage, as with all SMT games that I've played with it in.
Also, it seems that demons don't level up. Is that the case? If it is, I guess I'll have to switch them out a lot faster than I'm used to.
And can I fuse demons that are higher levelled than myself? What happens if I do?
Yeah demons don't level up. Also I don't remember if you can fuse demons higher than yourself. But if you can somehow...go for it. Nothing bad will happen if you do lol.
Some tips: Don't use a full party for dungeon crawling or you'll run out of Magnetite. If you want to max out a demon's loyalty so they always obey you, go to one of the stores that sells sake that turns your demon's personality to Kind. Just use it on any demon and make it keep defending in a battle until its loyalty is maxed out. Also if you fight most/all random battles you'll actually end up overleveled. This is actually a good thing though since eventually you can use Estoma or repulse water to bypass like all random battles. Good for when things get tedious.
- The demon negotiation in Soul Hackers is probably the best you can get. They get over the top with hilariousness in this one. I love it.
- Demons don't level up. I think the first megaten where demons started to level up was Persona.
You can't directly fuse demons with a level higher than yours unless you get a demon through a fusion accident.
Dragon1893
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Can't wait to get started. I really need some SMT in my veins. I'm glad this is coming out now to make the wait for SMTIV less painful.
Glad to hear the game is challenging though that's to be expected.
No demon leveling means constantly upgrading the party with new demons.
Glad to hear the game is challenging though that's to be expected.
No demon leveling means constantly upgrading the party with new demons.
kamikazekoala
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I bought it too last week. Now to have time to play it, Animal Crossing is still taking time...
Challenging? This is actually the easiest SMT I've played lol.
Dragon1893
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Saw some complaints about the difficulty here but if that's the case I guess it's coming from people that aren't used to SMT:
Spieler Eins
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Loved this game so far (first SMT), but I think I've played myself into a corner, lol.
Haven't gotten any healing/defence demons in ages (and can't fuse anything worthwhile afaik), to stand against spell spam from the factory manager. I guess I might go back doing some sidequest or something... And of all the boss fights, this has to be one with an unskippable cutscene load right before battle, lol great
Haven't gotten any healing/defence demons in ages (and can't fuse anything worthwhile afaik), to stand against spell spam from the factory manager. I guess I might go back doing some sidequest or something... And of all the boss fights, this has to be one with an unskippable cutscene load right before battle, lol great
The same thing is said of North America on the back of the box for the NA release. Originally, it would've been localized back during the '90s on the PS1, but SCEA denied Atlus the license.
It's better that it got localised now. The localisation is really good, and it wouldn't have been back then.
Yea I had a feeling it was a quick and dirty replace. But even so it's not true right? I mean there's been no proper English release of 1 or 2 as far as I know.
cj_iwakura
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I'm not sure about that. Soul Hackers was being eyed in the EP era. I think it would have been quite good. DEVIL SUMMONER would have gotten a poor translation, most likely. Revelations era.
The voice-acting probably would've still been iffy if they localized it back then, though (quite a problem with most JRPGs that had it during the PS1 era), even if the rest turned out alright.
Those are still missing, yes. They pretty much said "the" missing entry for their own convenience (going with "a" missing entry probably didn't seem as compelling).
cj_iwakura
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Again, EP era. It had a pretty solid dub. Baofu, Maya, and Ulala notably, the weak point(and I do mean BAD) being Jun's voice.
SatelliteOfLove
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Yeah, it's the second best to SJ's in terms of breadth and balance.
Quite frankly, negotiations when done right give the demons the otherworldly, capricious, and dangerous manner they need, and oppotunities, not guarentees. People forget how to do that.
Zeouterlimits
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Yo folks.
How approachable is the game? Is there a handy introduction for newbiews?
Looking at it on the eShop store (PAL)..
How approachable is the game? Is there a handy introduction for newbiews?
Looking at it on the eShop store (PAL)..
cj_iwakura
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More approachable than SMTIV, but not as easy to break. I'd say it's definitely harder in the long run.
Uh, do you have any SMT experience? Because this is a first person dungeon crawler with negotiations and such.
Zeouterlimits
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Not first hand, no, but I've seen bits of Strange Journey.
cj_iwakura
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It's much easier than SJ. As long as you don't mind FPDCs, you should be fine. The story's great, too.
Zeouterlimits
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Hmm, cool, thanks cj.
It's unlikely SMTIV will be out in Europe before the end of the year, so I think I'll give this a whirl
Spieler Eins
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It's not hard, but you definitely should give the manual a look. Then you'll be alright.
I'm about to enter the final dungeon and I barely even had to engage myself into all these SMT buff/spell titles so far.