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[M1chl]

It's an odd yet consistent trend we are seeing. XSX running at a higher resolution at the expense of a smoother performance.

It was like that with previous generation too. Was one of the reason why we opted for non-DRS solution and rather tweak the lods and details which appears on the screen. To keep the consistent framerate.

 

[MaKTaiL]

Xbox looks totally washed out. I like the PS5 image much more.

 

[Larvana]

So basically if series x ran at the same resolution has PS5, it would have a way more better fps than PS5 all together.

 

[Tripolygon]

Check Dirt 5 review for example.
Not that PS5 is winning many comparisons lately anyway.

I would call maintaining a smoother FPS a win. Wouldn't you?

 

[Leyasu]

I'm console warring because I said Alex trird to put the Xbox in the best light possible at every face off? You see how hypocrite you are? People like you are really the worst with their supposed higher morality when make constantly console war against the supposed fanboy.

Nothing to do with your comment about Alex. Anyway, I'll leave you to it. You're going to be busy patrolling this thread and me quoting you you again and again will just distract you from the task at hand...

 

[assurdum]

Check Dirt 5 review for example.
Not that PS5 is winning many comparisons lately anyway.

If for you it's winning have worst performance with DRS as happened lately anyway it's not about winning. I just stated how the DF narrative it's always manipulative and you see just looking to the other posters who said another win for Xbox. It was exactly that the purpose to spot the higher resolution in DRS. I found literally ridiculous his comments about the more softer IQ clearly apparent. Clearly. Lol.

 

[Larvana]

However, even though I own a series x, I would still prefer to play the PS5 version. Why is that? Ah, that's right, because the series x can't keep a steady frame rate and all 'real' gamers want better FPS, no?

Funny considering series X would have a more better fps all together, but obviously like previous they're going for the resolution.

 

[Dr Bass]

Interesting. As everyone (with a head on their shoulders) predicted before the systems came out they are really close.

I don't see how any side "won" though ...

How can you tout a slighter higher resolution when you have a slightly lower frame rate? Seems like a wash.

 

[jeffyjaixx]

So basically:

 

[FatKingBallman]

20% highter resolution average for Xbox Series X

A bit smoother FPS experience on PS5

Same graphical presets for both.

As expected. SeriesX is more powerful machine, but PS5 is competitive.

another win for XSX.
ps5 is about 80% res of what XSX can do.

Another big win for xbox!!!

LOL. Up to 20% higher resolution and this your almost 2TF advantage and higher bandwidth for XSX??

A cut and dried Xbox Series X advantage is mitigated a little when it comes to the matter of performance, where I generally found PlayStation 5 to have a significant advantage in locking to 60 frames per second. Sony's new console delivers a Metro Exodus experience that's super-smooth in combat, and equally robust in traversing the open world. Similar to Xbox Series X, there can be the odd one-frame drop, but where I found PS5 smoother is in areas where I saw some significant stutter on the Microsoft machine.

But higher CU's on XSX GPU means significant performance with RT. So, i guess not.

 

[sinnergy]

XSX loads faster ?

 

[longdi]

However, even though I own a series x, I would still prefer to play the PS5 version. Why is that? Ah, that's right, because the series x can't keep a steady frame rate and all 'real' gamers want better FPS, no?

just do VRR. the sharper image and variable refresh feels better to the eyes.

 

[Mr Moose]

XSX loads faster ?

Roughly the same.

 

[carloseduardocd]

They said it avg about 200p difference. So some quick math on the low end.

1300p x 100 = 13000/1500p = 8.6 %

He mentioned 2 frame examples

XSX 1134p - PS5 1015p - 11,72%
XSX 1512p - PS5 1350p - 12%

And of course, both are reconstructed to 4k using their temporal upscaling system. It's not a huge difference. But it's noticeable in some situations.

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

OK OK so both are comparable, bbbbuuuuuutttt we need a winner..so…..how quickly does each one boot into the game!?

 

[Insane Metal]

Img quality: XSX > PS5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XSS
Colors: PS5 > XSX/XSS
Framerate: PS5 > XSX

PS5 wins

 

[assurdum]

Interesting. As everyone (with a head on their shoulders) predicted before the systems came out they are really close.

I don't see how any side "won" though ...

How can you tout a slighter higher resolution when you have a slightly lower frame rate? Seems like a wash.

Eh.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Of course with Xbox fans empathy emoji. :/

just do VRR. the sharper image and variable refresh feels better to the eyes.

LOL. VRR excuse when XSX can't outperfom PS5

 

[FatKingBallman]

Img quality: XSX > PS5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XSS
Colors: PS5 > XSX/XSS
Framerate: PS5 > XSX

PS5 wins

Don't forget stuttering mess on Xbox consoles.

 

[assurdum]

He mentioned 2 frame examples

XSX 1134p - PS5 1015p - 11,72%
XSX 1512p - PS5 1350p - 12%

And of course, both are reconstructed to 4k using their temporal upscaling system. It's not a huge difference. But it's noticeable in some situations.

It's far from noticeable such difference in DRS setup. But it's DF, they have to rebalance.

 

[Arias05]

Win for XSX

ps5 up to 80% of XSX res, drops FPS in some areas XSX holds 60 (top of crane), dips below 1080p, black crush, no VRR, no quick resume

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

Personally I think the PS5 version looks better. Blacks should be black, not gray.
This is something that bothers me, this lack of contrast.

That aside, it's exactly like I predicted months before (and it should be obvious). RT heavy games will be the ones to show the SeX TFlops advantage. There's no way around it, more Flops, more Rays.

 

[octiny]

Another one.

XSX is a beast.

PS5 dropping below 1080P at times, ooof.

 

[01011001]

so 10-20% resolution advantage on SX
0-2% performance advantage on PS5

I would recommend SX + VRR TV in that case.

 

[Arias05]

However, even though I own a series x, I would still prefer to play the PS5 version. Why is that? Ah, that's right, because the series x can't keep a steady frame rate and all 'real' gamers want better FPS, no?

They both drop FPS and very minor at that 57-60fps. Some areas ps5 holds and other XSX holds better. I'll take the higher res, VRR, and no black crush

 

[assurdum]

Win for XSX

ps5 up to 80% of XSX res, drops FPS in some areas XSX holds 60 (top of crane), dips below 1080p, black crush, no VRR, no quick resume

It's not up. 80% of resolution his the worst scenario.

 

[JLB]

If for you it's winning have worst performance with DRS as happened lately anyway it's not about winning. I just stated how the DF narrative it's always manipulative and you see just looking to the other posters who said another win for Xbox. It was exactly that the purpose to spot the higher resolution in DRS. I found literally ridiculous his comments about the more softer IQ clearly apparent. Clearly. Lol.

Sure dude. Richard The Zionist Lizard and his Evil Squad.

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

I would bet my balls Alex would have found a way to exalt the average higher resolution on series X in DRS over the better performance on ps5. Jeez how much predictable is him and I found a spot where series X runs better "you see it depends to the area". Good Lord this guy.

Be a man of word, because you lost your balls.

 

[Markio128]

just do VRR. the sharper image and variable refresh feels better to the eyes.

I don't have a VRR TV unfortunately. Fortunately, it looks like the PS5 version doesn't need it.

 

[sinnergy]

Another one.

XSX is a beast.

PS5 dropping below 1080P at times, ooof.

Not enough CUs is probably the blame .. will only get worse over time when engines become fully async .

 

[M1chl]

Dropping below 1080p? whatYearItIs.jpg

amirite?

 

[ultrazilla]

 

[assurdum]

Sure dude. Richard The Zionist Lizard and his Evil Squad.

Just look at the thread. They feed console war repeatedly with their argumentation.

 

[sinnergy]

Roughly the same.

How is this possible ?

 

[Chukhopops]

He mentioned 2 frame examples

XSX 1134p - PS5 1015p - 11,72%
XSX 1512p - PS5 1350p - 12%

And of course, both are reconstructed to 4k using their temporal upscaling system. It's not a huge difference. But it's noticeable in some situations.

If you look at the minimum resolutions mentioned and assuming there is no other form of drs:

PS5: 1296p = 2304x1296 resolution = 2,985,984 pixels
XSX: 1512p = 2688x1512 resolution = 4,064,256 pixels

That's a 36.1% difference in pixels. We are getting close to the actual "absolute win goalpost".

PS5 dropping to 1296p (and apparently even lower) this early in the first year of the gen is really a matter of grave concern imo.

Edit: XSX will win this one unless their average framerate is lower than 60 * (1/1.36) = 44.08 fps

 

[01011001]

intersting for some too, you can't use your PS4 save on PS5

but you can use your Xbox One save on SX

 

[carloseduardocd]

XSX loads faster ?

In his 2 examples, the first was faster on XSX, the second was faster on PS5.

But... 40 second loading times? Of course this i/o is not optimized for next-gen machines.

 

[Mr Moose]

How is this possible ?

It's not taking advantage of either of the SSDs.

 

[M1chl]

intersting for some too, you can't use your PS4 save on PS5

but you can use your Xbox One save on SX

Well to an extent, the checkpoint does not work, only capitols. So basically you are starting at the beginning of that level you were on X1...

It's not taking advantage of either of the SSDs.

It's probably doing some CPU intensive workload, like generating stuff like enemies and stuff like that, I wouldn't say that SSD do much in here. Hopefully they will do it on the fly in their next game.

 

[pasterpl]

Another one.

XSX is a beast.

PS5 dropping below 1080P at times, ooof.

It's Nintendo switch territory/s

 

[Riky]

just do VRR. the sharper image and variable refresh feels better to the eyes.

Exactly.

You want the best image quality and the smoothest gameplay on console, so you want an Xbox Series X.

 

[01011001]

How is this possible ?

the loading is mostly CPU bound here, hence the Xbox loading faster in some instances, since it has the better CPU

 

[assurdum]

Be a man of word, because you lost your balls.

?

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Not enough CUs is probably the blame .. will only get worse over time when engines become fully async .

no, 20% compute advantage of xsx will not magically increase over a time, from interview with metro exodus Chief Technical Officer Oleksandr Shyshkovtsov:

Our current frames are only about 10% raster and 90% compute on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X

so hard to imagine more compute heavy game

 

[DenchDeckard]

Ps5 below 1080p? No way.

Not watched it yet.

 

[Denton]

I just stated how the DF narrative it's always manipulative

And you are full of shit, figuratively and possibly literally

 

[01011001]

Exactly.

You want the best image quality and the smoothest gameplay on console, so you want an Xbox Series X.

*and a good TV

remember there are still people on here rocking 1080p TVs from 2012... so yeah. VRR and everything is fine

 

[JLB]

Just look at the thread. They feed console war repeatedly with their argumentation.

By people like you.
Entire DF roasted Xbox for years during the last generation. And well deserved.
No need to bring conspiracy tales. Move on.

 

[FatKingBallman]

If you look at the minimum resolutions mentioned and assuming there is no other form of drs:

PS5: 1296p = 2304x1296 resolution = 2,985,984 pixels
XSX: 1512p = 2688x1512 resolution = 4,064,256 pixels

That's a 36.1% difference in pixels. We are getting close to the actual "absolute win goalpost".

PS5 dropping to 1296p (and apparently even lower) this early in the first year of the gen is really a matter of grave concern imo.

Edit: XSX will win this one unless their average framerate is lower than 60 * (1/1.36) = 44.08 fps

Are you ignoring XSX drops to 1080p too?

 

[assurdum]

If you look at the minimum resolutions mentioned and assuming there is no other form of drs:

PS5: 1296p = 2304x1296 resolution = 2,985,984 pixels
XSX: 1512p = 2688x1512 resolution = 4,064,256 pixels

That's a 36.1% difference in pixels. We are getting close to the actual "absolute win goalpost".

PS5 dropping to 1296p (and apparently even lower) this early in the first year of the gen is really a matter of grave concern imo.

Edit: XSX will win this one unless their average framerate is lower than 60 * (1/1.36) = 44.08 fps

You can't be serious.