First party games like Ratchet & Clank or Demon`s Souls have been using the ability to drop and repopulate the RAM near instantaneously all the time but you choose to base your opinion solely on a single multiplat engine.....
because meanwhile the ps5 i/o subsystem is absolutely great ..It is highly tied to GPU performance and to be honest I don't see how the GPU can gain 20% or 30% extra to make the I / O and its throughput a differentiating factor from a graphical point of view. What if Sony simply wanted the console to load all games or whatever faster than any other?
so instant loading ? ok
You should spend a few more words to save confusion. Regardless there is no strawman. People said that.
Now why the fuck would I care enough about internet video game arguments to save quotes for a later date? Just implying that I would do that I consider a far greater insult then dick head.
What’s denoising? Haven’t heard that before.
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don’t see any of this on his XSX though, I literally see it everywhere. Could some console setting remove it? System resolution, hdr, Dolby vision etc etc 
Sidestepping and downplaying instead of answering is one way to admit to not actually having facts to base an opinion on.
Read the thread. Most people understood it as "even high-end PCs can't run this because their I/O is too slow". That's what Sweeney was selling. And it not only turned out to be bullshit, it wasn't even close. Ten year old SSDs have enough bandwidth to run UE5 stuff, at least at 30 fps.
What else a faster I/O system and SSD supposed to do instead of "instant loading"? Water my plants?
What’s denoising? Haven’t heard that before.
It’s really odd anyhow, only shows when you look through a window. I don’t understand how
"it will load more and more polygons into the scene and games will look lots better than any other slower i/o" .....this was pretty much what the promoters of all of this said ..... obviously excluding the 100% most important GPU from the equation. Many have tried to explain to these people how things would have turned out instead ..... and now that we have tangible proofs .... what I hear from these people is ... "maybe optimizing" "then you will see the first party" "it's still too early in the gen to show the true power of streaming more data". Now by the way ... I completely agree that an I / O subsystem that has double the performance than another, if matched by a GPU with double the performance will obviously stream and render more stuff. But this is clearly not the case
I see it clearly on mine too. It seems just like its some bug.What’s denoising? Haven’t heard that before.
It’s really odd anyhow, only shows when you look through a window. I don’t understand how
www.eurogamer.net
is a free demo from epic .....you will not find any console advantage here
I never put much stock into the idea that UE5 was THE streaming engine that's going to push the limits of the PS5. Sony's best graphical showpieces in the past were done using their own, in-house engines and I imagine that the opinions of those developers who designed those engines carried a lot of weight with the design decisions behind the PS5.
Ahh nuts. Still waiting, I guess.
I think it depends how a scene is built, if more objects can be brought in fast enough while others are moved you essentially have more memory available to display objects at a given time... Or save on LODs with high performance culling.close , seem to have imaginary details advantage and an i/o so fast that draw triangles directly into the display even before the gpu think them
That was my first thought, but then I remembered that he only has a series X.
we already saw what type of differece that GPU diff give ...till now has been mostly resolution it will be the same for ue5 i suspect
Did I watch another video? It says they helped to get better performance on Xbox consoles. How on earth and why would they know about PS5 development? They don’t have any expertise on it.
With more memory you can have an increased quality or variety of animations as well.
I literally posted pictures.....What’s denoising? Haven’t heard that before.
It’s really odd anyhow, only shows when you look through a window. I don’t understand how
You can have a billion triangles with one item repeated a million times or a million items repeated 1000 times.
These?
They show no noise at all. I’m just trying to figure out why there is nothing at your end but me and others are seeing exactly what the biased guy showed.
I took these from the XSX version, its seems they dont have noise shown in your video. Perhaps hes using the series S version.
Yeah maybe you can show the map. But I’ll restart the game and console first just to rule out simple things, I’ve had it on quick resume and it is a demo after all.
I have tried. It seems to happen in some interiors and not in others.
Yup! I just got rid of the noise, restarted the console and game. Gone! Then it came back when I went into the menu, clicked to go back to main menu and then explore city. Going through the Matrix intro again right now to see if it’s the transition from intro to explore that fix it and the quick play to explore that trigger it.
DF won't want to show any of those differences. They already decided both versions were virtually identical except "denoising" difference. You won't get anything more from them.
Glad to see your comment Snake. It's all really been the reality of the situation I've argued. It's really simple if one can understand the graphics pipeline and how it works.
you dont have tangible proof. you have a few cross gen titles. You know how this goes, it happens every gen.
The black noise is a bug, confirmed.
The only thing I’ve done here is going back to the main menu and choosing explore city.
That triggers the black noise.
If you go back to the main menu and go through the intro with the shooting it’ll be gone.
I’m guessing it’s that denoiser thing that don’t get set up properly when you choose explore city, a messed up settings file or something.
Edit: Only show how easy it is for misinformation the spread when the consoles are this close, a bug is all it takes for videos and picture comparisons to flood the discussions and give birth to all kinds of tech explanations.
I’ve edited my previous posts. I’ll look into the other differences now.
The black noise is a bug, confirmed.
The only thing I’ve done here is going back to the main menu and choosing explore city.
That triggers the black noise.
If you go back to the main menu and go through the intro with the shooting it’ll be gone.
I’m guessing it’s that denoiser thing that don’t get set up properly when you choose explore city, a messed up settings file or something.
Edit: Only show how easy it is for misinformation the spread when the consoles are this close, a bug is all it takes for videos and picture comparisons to flood the discussions and give birth to all kinds of tech explanations.
I’ve edited my previous posts. I’ll look into the other differences now.
If you go through the intro sequence, do car windows have proper RT reflections or are they still stuck with screen space only?
You are somewhat confused about data management and rendering. The PS5 I/O system doesn't help in any way to improve rendering (which is entirely done by the GPU). What it allows is fast movement of the highest detail assets possible. Look, it's simple to understand: just imagine the best possible graphic quality the PS5 could render, in most detailed, closed space, on rail game possible (so, all the GPU resources used to render the maximum level assets with the most possible quality). Now, in the past generations, the weight of the most detailed assets would be too high to be possibly used in an open world, because they fill RAM with only few detailed assets and the streaming capabilities of the previous generation cannot load those assets quickly enough to move in an open world at a reasonable speed.
