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It's nominally larger. The Pro's resolution is 10% higher than the SX whereas the SX's resolution is 18% higher than the PS5's.
DF - Doom Dark Ages PS5/PRO & Series S/X showdown.
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Bojji
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Especially after perfect HDR of Eternal.
"Lazy developers" is not a myth in my opinion, they do bare minimum most of the time and in this case it's: "let's make HDR look good on LCD without local dimming"
It's close to TF difference between SX and PS5. Maybe it's one of those games that really utilizes bigger SX GPU to near 100% (and that is harder vs. smaller but faster GPU) but of course someone can say that game is just not optimized enough for PS5 platforms. Both can be correct.
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Lol. Why they should care. They are not gamers
twilo99
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This simply proves that all of these silly videos comparing different consoles are absolutely pointless because all they are doing is showing the difference in optimization the developer has managed on that particular game for a particular hardware spec.
In other words, a developer can make your favorite console win or loose the DF "breakdown" videos and they u go cry for no reason
In other words, a developer can make your favorite console win or loose the DF "breakdown" videos and they u go cry for no reason
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twilo99
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Yes, can that be true for an XBOX SERIES S ?????
Bojji
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Yes.
Well fps drops are definitely unexplainable on both playstation platforms.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Have the devs responded to any of the complaints regarding the Pro's poor "upgrade" or the broken HDR??
What bothers me is there was specifically a trailer made with the game director hyping up the Pro version of the game. So to release it with barely any improvement over base consoles is just shitty behavior and almost begs the question of whether some bugs are affecting the game ...
What bothers me is there was specifically a trailer made with the game director hyping up the Pro version of the game. So to release it with barely any improvement over base consoles is just shitty behavior and almost begs the question of whether some bugs are affecting the game ...
SKYF@ll
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It appears that some settings are different between the PS5 and Xbox Series X versions.
DF "The biggest difference I noticed came in the sixth level, where most of the trees don't animate with the wind on Series X, but do animate on PS5."
The XBOX version uses HW VRS, while the PS5 version uses the GPU to run SW VRS.
deTECH "No flying debris when giant demons destroy the city. (XSX version) " *Youtube
I checked it on my Xbox Series X and found that deTECH's point was correct.
Pedro Motta
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It appears that some settings are different between the PS5 and Xbox Series X versions.
DF "The biggest difference I noticed came in the sixth level, where most of the trees don't animate with the wind on Series X, but do animate on PS5."
The XBOX version uses HW VRS, while the PS5 version uses the GPU to run SW VRS.
deTECH "No flying debris when giant demons destroy the city. (XSX version) " *Youtube
I checked it on my Xbox Series X and found that deTECH's point was correct.
Shmunter
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It appears that some settings are different between the PS5 and Xbox Series X versions.
DF "The biggest difference I noticed came in the sixth level, where most of the trees don't animate with the wind on Series X, but do animate on PS5."
The XBOX version uses HW VRS, while the PS5 version uses the GPU to run SW VRS.
deTECH "No flying debris when giant demons destroy the city. (XSX version) " *Youtube
I checked it on my Xbox Series X and found that deTECH's point was correct.
There also the pro comparison, use ai dubbing unless you speak Greek….
DenchDeckard
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Physiognomonics
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It's noticeably sharper on Pro. The ground textures probably don't use VRS on Pro and it's quite sharper there. But everything else is also better defined on the Sony console, even sitting far away. No need for zooms.
VRS seems to completely destroy the texture details on Xbox. Awful stuff, really, but expected with that shitty tech.
There is also some aggressive geometry pop in on XSX, not seen on Pro.
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I mean it's a first party MS of course they care more about the xbox platforms performance. Doubt it's just a coincidence.And yet it runs smoother than your beloved PS5...that must sting.
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GHG
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And yet it runs smoother than your beloved PS5...that must sting.
Well good thing I'm not even playing this game on PS5 then huh?
Really starting to lose it at the moment aren't you Dench?
DenchDeckard
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GHG
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Haha, not at all. I know you've moved to PC I just wanted to troll your troll comment. But, in typical GHG style you try and attack the user and not notice your own trolling / trolling in return.
It's all in Jehst!
All this just because you couldn't take a dig against the Series S.
Like I said, you're unravelling, if you want to see that as an "attack" then that's up to you. FYI, I'm playing Doom for free since I will be refunding PC gamepass once I've had my fill, hope that's ok with you.
DenchDeckard
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Unravelling? What the funk is wrong with you dude? How can you act like you know anyone? You are a bit of an odd bod.
I saw the joke in your post and made a joke back. Maybe your unravelling and all this stuff you do is a reflection of your own insecurities.
I dunno.
Glad you've enjoyed doom and want to rip off the industry. Good for you man.
Steve Holt
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why wouldn't he be? misleading marketing is their bread and butter as a whole company
GHG
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I think it sums up the situation at the division. Nobody gets held accountable for anything.
Dude, I made a joke about a console.
Meanwhile you came in here all butthurt and said "your" (which immediately means it refers to me), and even still you got it wrong since it's not the platform I was ever going to play this game on.
But yes, I will enjoy ripping and tearing a certain subsector of the industry.
Skifi28
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That's not how it works though. Neither for Sony nor the users that want to play said games.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It appears that some settings are different between the PS5 and Xbox Series X versions.
DF "The biggest difference I noticed came in the sixth level, where most of the trees don't animate with the wind on Series X, but do animate on PS5."
The XBOX version uses HW VRS, while the PS5 version uses the GPU to run SW VRS.
deTECH "No flying debris when giant demons destroy the city. (XSX version) " *Youtube
I checked it on my Xbox Series X and found that deTECH's point was correct.
That's really... curious.
DenchDeckard
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I think it sums up the situation at the division. Nobody gets held accountable for anything.
Dude, I made a joke about a console.
Meanwhile you came in here all butthurt and said "your" (which immediately means it refers to me), and even still you got it wrong since it's not the platform I was ever going to play this game on.
But yes, I will enjoy ripping and tearing a certain subsector of the industry.
Its all good, bro. I just don't get some of your gaslighting. Comes across as proper harsh, And not when your just communicating with me either.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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Anyone else notice the game looking a lot better now on Pro after today's (or yesterdays) patch? HDR actually looks good now and the game looks sharper to my eyes
SKYF@ll
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"Doom Dark Ages got another patch. Added a toggle to turn off film grain on console and added an enhanced sharpener that actually works this this time. Lol. I played on PS5 Pro but it looks a lot crisper now. Closer to Eternal. For anyone who was waiting for more patches."
It's a post on Facebook.
I would like to see a PSSR toggle option and why not a 120hz mode which uses it. But I doubt will ever happen.
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REDRZA MWS
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I've had the Pro since launch and I'm waiting too. Even the "pro enhanced" games really aren't different themselves much at all.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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I've been saying this for a long time now the "upgrades" we've gotten on this console are so much worse than anyone imagined prior to launch yet someone people act like they're great....yeah, there are a handful of good Pro patches but there are many more that do so little and even some, thanks to early pssr, that have worse iq than base ps5. I'm talking about Silent Hill 2, Dragons Dogma 2, Avatar off the top. There are many games that got pssr only and no other improvements- sometimes pssr actually made a difference but most times it was just a "side grade" where, if you really compare it to whatever upscaling it had before, its basically the same...maybe it'll look a tiny bit more resolved but then have its own artifacting from the crappy, early version of PSSR it used (Alan Wake 2, sw outlaws, gow ragnarok and many more).
Of course people will disagree and attempt to gaslight you for calling a spade a spade which is exactly what happened to me in the PS5 Pro dedicated thread. Pro owners and Sony fanboys would rather pretend that the Pro has delivered what most of us hoped it would than deal with the reality of the actual situation.
There are also a lot of games that never got Pro patches that we should've got like Plague Tale Requiem and Cyberpunk. If Sony cared about the consumer they would've secured these games by any means necessary but that's another topic. It's been such a frustrating console (and generation).
Bojji
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Hope is that the most demanding games in the future will show bigger differences (GTA...). So far many patches are very low effort.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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I wish
Grechy34
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Wish it got a patch for my 3060 laptop on 6GB VRAM. Welp.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yep, disabling grain and a little bit of the sharpness (20, 30%) will definitely make the image look crisper.
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iHaunter
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For 3rd party studios as well? I don't think they can enforce that.
Fake
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And thats the main issue. PRO would end up relying on third party because the lack of first party games this generation.
When even Cyberpunk is getting a NS2 version, but no PS5pro version. I guess Sony should reconsider a more investiment, maybe a reward program to help dev costs with PRO patches.
S0ULZB0URNE
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It's a old game.