DF UPDATE BACKTRACK Street Fighter 6 on Switch 2 appears to be using DLSS to upscale from 540p to 1080p with "remarkably" clean image quality

Bojji said:
I wonder why Sony gaf is so obsessed with Switch 2. PS5 and switch are not even competing with themselves, Nintendo and Sony mostly have different kind of audience.

With rumored PS6 handheld this will change but we don't even know if this will happen. Yet some are going batshit crazy here lol.
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Just standard toys wars thing, at least I've seen the discussion less aggressive since some users got temp banned
 
ryan90k said:
well at 6:39 he's talking about them using DLSS to get from 540p to 1080p and then TAA to get 4k. Last i checked you can't use TAAU to upscale a already reconstructed DLSS image?. Surely it would have to be FSR1 or much more likely nvidia NIS (nvidia image scaling)
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it really can not be said enough how much of an incompetent idiot SMD64 is. his entire content is grifting DF haters by talking complete nonsese while convincing his gullible viewers he knows stuff.

you are correct, it's not possible to do that.
anything applied after DLSS is either a straight upscale (bilinear, bicubic, nearest neighbour) or an upscale like FSR1 that tries to do edge detection stuff.

DLSS is a form of TAA. you can't stack another TAA pass ontop of an already rendered image unless you want serious ghosting issues... purely from a technical perspective you could do that, but it would essentially turn the game into a psychedelic LSD simulator with excessive ghosting.

for TAA to be effective it needs more information than a moving flat image.
what happens without that information can be seen in Forza Horizon 5's livery editor. TAA was added after the game was already out, so the engine wasn't fully prepared for it. the 2D texture elements in the livery editor don't give the TAA any motion vector information, which means as you move shapes around they are ghosting like crazy.

in some games you can see the same issue on animated textures like TV screens that play a video file, as a video file can not be properly treated by TAA. Alan Wake 2 had issues like that in some scenes.
 
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kevboard said:
unless you want serious ghosting issues...
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Wouldn't be the first time a nintendo console had those

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Just checked out the Nintendo switch and capcom sites and by looks of it the switch yr 1+2 edition of this game includes all characters and stages, but only includes costume 1 with all the colours, leaving you to unlock costume 2 or buy costumes 2+3 with money. Wondered why capcom charging £49.99 for this yet the full season 2 dlc is £49.99, which yet again costing a future on price of tickets to buy outfits as not playing through the whole campaign again to unlock outfits 2 it was a bore first time
 
Yeah will be funny when you can buy sf6 yr 1+2 for £49.99 for 26 charachters and 20 stages, then a few weeks later capcom will announce season 3 pass at £49.99 for 4 charachters and 2 stages more
 
kevboard said:
it really can not be said enough how much of an incompetent idiot SMD64 is. his entire content is grifting DF haters by talking complete nonsese while convincing his gullible viewers he knows stuff.

you are correct, it's not possible to do that.
anything applied after DLSS is either a straight upscale (bilinear, bicubic, nearest neighbour) or an upscale like FSR1 that tries to do edge detection stuff.

DLSS is a form of TAA. you can't stack another TAA pass ontop of an already rendered image unless you want serious ghosting issues... purely from a technical perspective you could do that, but it would essentially turn the game into a psychedelic LSD simulator with excessive ghosting.

for TAA to be effective it needs more information than a moving flat image.
what happens without that information can be seen in Forza Horizon 5's livery editor. TAA was added after the game was already out, so the engine wasn't fully prepared for it. the 2D texture elements in the livery editor don't give the TAA any motion vector information, which means as you move shapes around they are ghosting like crazy.

in some games you can see the same issue on animated textures like TV screens that play a video file, as a video file can not be properly treated by TAA. Alan Wake 2 had issues like that in some scenes.
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Yeah i've noticed youtube has so many grifters. People posting videos with clickbait titles with no real information and then saying all sorts of nonsense to pad out there video length and get ad money. Don't get me wrong DF posts a weekly 2 hour long podcast that has a lot of regurgitated questions but at least you know what your getting and there main tech analysis videos can be very good. I tried manually pixel counting Kirby after someone else on here did on another post on here and got the same 1080p resolution so I do think DF are right about that one for what it's worth.
 
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Bojji said:
I wonder why Sony gaf is so obsessed with Switch 2. PS5 and switch are not even competing with themselves, Nintendo and Sony mostly have different kind of audience.

With rumored PS6 handheld this will change but we don't even know if this will happen. Yet some are going batshit crazy here lol.
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Bojji said:
I wonder why Sony gaf is so obsessed with Switch 2. PS5 and switch are not even competing with themselves, Nintendo and Sony mostly have different kind of audience.

With rumored PS6 handheld this will change but we don't even know if this will happen. Yet some are going batshit crazy here lol.
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NS1 and PS4 had an unprecedented number of games shared between the two platforms' library.
The level of software cross sharing between Nintendo and PlayStation is destined to be even higher with next cycle (NS2/PS5).

The situation is so paradoxical that the latest Everybody's Golf is a multiplatform release on NS1, PS5 and PC.
Whoever follow PlayStation since the beginning, with a particular watch on the japanese side, knows why this is so surprising (or another sign of the changing times).
 
Because I've been playing this game a lot lately I just wanted to add how great the single player " adventure " mode is. It's not just a lengthy one off they have been updating it and adding content everyone a new character is announced they add them into it some how. Terry and Mai festivals were great additions. 🫶
 
NOWS CAN SIT ON FAT ASS PLAY GAMES PORTIMBLE WITHOUT HAVING TO TONKER ROUND WITH SETTINGS LOOK CLOSE ENOGH GREWED UP PLAYSING PERFECT DARK 12 FPS DONT EVEN CARE BOUT NO CRUD BOOKMARKED
 
Can't find any gameplay footage on portable mode.
But if the docked mode already missing some objects on the background i.e. people, sakura... And need to upscale from 540 to 1080. Wonder the resolution will the portable mode be. And i heard that SF6 and monster hunter wilds both run on the re engine. The chance to able to have the MHW on switch 2 is not that high then.
 
yuchai417 said:
Can't find any gameplay footage on portable mode.
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Do you mean direct footage ? Cause it's locked by default from Nintendo, there are only 2 ways to capture portable mode videos on the Switch 1 which was the capture button, or a modded Switch that allows direct capture from it.
 
Baemono said:
Do you mean direct footage ? Cause it's locked by default from Nintendo, there are only 2 ways to capture portable mode videos on the Switch 1 which was the capture button, or a modded Switch that allows direct capture from it.
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Footage which gameplay on portal mode but not the one showing in Switch 2 Direct / SF 6 announcement trailer
 
GigaBowser said:
NOWS CAN SIT ON FAT ASS PLAY GAMES PORTIMBLE WITHOUT HAVING TO TONKER ROUND WITH SETTINGS LOOK CLOSE ENOGH GREWED UP PLAYSING PERFECT DARK 12 FPS DONT EVEN CARE BOUT NO CRUD BOOKMARKED
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What Are You Saying Season 1 GIF by SHOWTIME

You type like my daughter spoke when she was 4 and had no impulse control.
 
Buying a Switch 2 myself, not because I wanted to buy my og Switch broke the weekend before preorders. But I wouldn't ever bother with 3rd party on Nintendo unless they're exclusive. These games will look and run like trash every time.
 
DryvBy said:
Buying a Switch 2 myself, not because I wanted to buy my og Switch broke the weekend before preorders. But I wouldn't ever bother with 3rd party on Nintendo unless they're exclusive. These games will look and run like trash every time.
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Well, they're not running like or looking like that at all, maybe IF PS6 has a substantial tech upgrade that can't run on it, compared to how RT only games can't run on PS4, but I don't think that's gonna be the case
 
DeafTourette said:
He explained it before. ARBD.

Having Tourette has made me more sensitive to outright misinformation about someone's struggles with an illness/condition
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most forum KNOW annnnd support me vote poster of the year we will survive conditons my friend i sends energiy
 
DeafTourette said:
He explained it before. ARBD.

Having Tourette has made me more sensitive to outright misinformation about someone's struggles with an illness/condition
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I didn't know that, that's sad. I still think he's far too combative with many posters and he comes off as a jerk sometimes, but I was unaware of his condition, so I feel for him. I'm unaware of how conditions like that would affect my personality, so I'll try to be less judgemental in the future.
 
cireza said:
Guy looks like an inflated balloon with a tiny head. WTF happened to Capcom since SF IV ? Awful, awful art direction.
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Based purely on those pics, the PS5 OG looks the best. And the PS4 Pro pic text is all reversed.

And yes, Switch 2 does look better than PS4 Pro.
 
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poodaddy said:
I didn't know that, that's sad. I still think he's far too combative with many posters and he comes off as a jerk sometimes, but I was unaware of his condition, so I feel for him. I'm unaware of how conditions like that would affect my personality, so I'll try to be less judgemental in the future.
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whhhhhaaaatt?? ahahah I never say bad stuff bout nobody show me one times just talks about games wife says im gentled spirit
 
GigaBowser said:
whhhhhaaaatt?? ahahah I never say bad stuff bout nobody show me one times just talks about games wife says im gentled spirit
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Ya kinda just proved my point right there, that obnoxious laugh shit you do on pretty much every response you make where you disagree with someone. Makes you seem like a jackass.

I'm sure you're not, I'll take your wife's word for it that you're a gentle spirit, (I don't find that hard to believe as most people who come off as blowhards on the Internet are definitely "gentle spirits", such is why they like to behave like asses on the Internet; they're too cowardly to do it in real life as they know there'd be consequences....not referring to you here obviously), so consider this just a kind FYI from your friendly neighborhood Poodaddy.
:D
 
poodaddy said:
Ya kinda just proved my point right there, that obnoxious laugh shit you do on pretty much every response you make where you disagree with someone. Makes you seem like a jackass.

I'm sure you're not, I'll take your wife's word for it that you're a gentle spirit, (I don't find that hard to believe as most people who come off as blowhards on the Internet are definitely "gentle spirits", such is why they like to behave like asses on the Internet; they're too cowardly to do it in real life as they know there'd be consequences....not referring to you here obviously), so consider this just a kind FYI from your friendly neighborhood Poodaddy.
:D
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ahahahahahaha what?? doctor tolds me good for me to laugh oohoohoohohhohoo
Closer said:
Avatar doesn't look too gentle
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wife thinks its funny

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paolo11 said:
So what's the resolution on handheld mode? 360p?
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Here are the benchmarks:
XBO: 0 pixels 0 fps
PS4: 0 pixels 0 fps
XSS: 0 pixels 0 fps
XSX: 0 pixels 0 fps
PS5: 0 pixels 0 fps
PS5pro: 0 pixels 0 fps
NS2: undetermined resolution 60fps

Somehow most consoles really underperform in handheld mode in all games
 
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Hyet said:
Here are the benchmarks:
XBO: 0 pixels 0 fps
PS4: 0 pixels 0 fps
XSS: 0 pixels 0 fps
XSX: 0 pixels 0 fps
PS5: 0 pixels 0 fps
PS5pro: 0 pixels 0 fps
NS2: undetermined resolution 60fps

Somehow most consoles really underperform in handheld mode in all games
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You about to trigger some people! Popcorn is ready!
 
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