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Diablo 3 Beta [Beta withdrawal underway!]
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DieH@rd said:
Yeah, it does seem that you spec is interchangeable and its the Runestones that make you for talent tree.
As far as I am aware, you can swap out Runestones for your skills. I am not sure if there is a cooldown on swapping them, or at least being out of combat.
On a side note, since you can swap skills when you need, are they going to add the ability to have a default one? So I can press 1 button and it loads all my skill setups and Runestones, or am I going to have to alter everything by hand?
DieH@rd said:
In some interview Wilson said you can remove runes from spells but lets say you have runed a crimson rune to your WD's Summon Dogs. You can remove it but the rune will always be only for WD's Dog spell. So spells should be changable at will but you can't just switch the rune to another spell.
Edit: How in the hell not more people are interested in WD? His spells are awesome.
PaleFolklore
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I am blown away by how much depth there is in the skill calculator. I've spent over an hour messing around on the Witch Doctor page trying to figure out what would be the best build for a support character that would go best with my buddy's Barb. I was on the fence for pre-ordering this but now I'm convinced this is going to be incredible.
Sorry for doubting you Blizzard.
Sorry for doubting you Blizzard.
Castor Krieg
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#bSjZYc!dbZ!Ybbacc
Going to boost my damage and put runes on abilities which will allow me to get my mana back. Paying 50% of mana cost as life sounds tempting, but will probably fail on higher difficulties.
Going to boost my damage and put runes on abilities which will allow me to get my mana back. Paying 50% of mana cost as life sounds tempting, but will probably fail on higher difficulties.
Bloodsent
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Forgive me for being uninformed here, but do all of the skills unlock by level 30 and you choose what you want to be "Active", or do you choose what to unlock and there could be skills you don't get? Just trying to understand the skill calculator, and if the unlocks at level 1, 6, 12, 18, 24 are the slots that you can map a skill to.
MrKnives said:
WTF, I just looked, Witch Doctor has some stupidly crazy awesome rune combos man. 4 sec cooldown 8 second duration Mass Confusion (a skill that makes the enemies fight FOR you instead of against you) with no Mana cost doesnt even make sense.
No Im serious, think about that, does the cooldown not actually start until the effect ends? Or what?
Then theres stuff like 32.5% of your pets damage is converted into HP for you, 65% of your pets damage heals the pet, or a Ghetto Soul Link, where 70% of the damage you take is absorbed by your pets....
The crimson rune for Mass confusion makes all enemies in the area take 80% more damage for 8 seconds, absurd. Theres to much there to comment on. It seems like you can just really design the class to be an absolute beast. Damn shame I really dont wanna play the class, but they certainly made the options pretty badass.
I see five: http://us.blizzard.com/diablo3/world/systems/runestones.xml but yeah five types, seven levelsMrKnives said:
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The freedom of combining how you like is very satisfying. You don't have to calculate with skill points or choose something you might not want to get something you do want with skill trees.
The new skill systems seems very well crafted. You are given so many options it would be a shame to make you commit to them permanently. It's fun to constantly adjust your character on the fly, and even approach a certain game with a different build because of tactical advantages (group play, specific bosses, Arena, Inferno, etc.).
Yes, free respeccing takes away your reason to make another Wizard, but it will take a ton of time to make your character really shiny and there are 4 others classes to play.
The gameplay also seems much better balanced in Diablo 3, so switching from one elemental damage to another does not give you a huge advantage like in Diablo 2.
Blizzard will serve a huge round of crow in the end. Game of the Year 2011.
The new skill systems seems very well crafted. You are given so many options it would be a shame to make you commit to them permanently. It's fun to constantly adjust your character on the fly, and even approach a certain game with a different build because of tactical advantages (group play, specific bosses, Arena, Inferno, etc.).
Yes, free respeccing takes away your reason to make another Wizard, but it will take a ton of time to make your character really shiny and there are 4 others classes to play.
The gameplay also seems much better balanced in Diablo 3, so switching from one elemental damage to another does not give you a huge advantage like in Diablo 2.
Blizzard will serve a huge round of crow in the end. Game of the Year 2011.
Another quick derail (sorry!). I only have vanilla D2 at the moment (installed last night, it's patched to 1.12) - would I get a benefit from picking up LOD and installing that before I play, or can I happily just play it as is?
I should really start a LTTP thread I guess, although I'm sure there's been a few of those over the last year or so already!
I should really start a LTTP thread I guess, although I'm sure there's been a few of those over the last year or so already!
la flama blanca
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my witch doctor build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#aeZkhY!bce!bbZcZb
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#aeZkhY!bce!bbZcZb
Big Papa Husker
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Yes! Get LOD, its so worth it.Number45 said:
Made a Rocket/Grenade build for Demon Hunter. Runestoned in a lot of rocket abilities, then added the increased rocket damage passive. The grenade runestone reduces the hatred cost to 12.5 then the Grenadier passive reduces grenades and cluster arrow hatred costs by 15, so does that mean free grenade spam?
I'm working on a Shadow Power build now, focusing on a quick regen of Discipline to keep the buff up as much as possible.
I think vault with the tumbler runestone effect will find its way into a lot of builds. It really increases the number of vaults you'll be able to use back to back. As of now at default you can do 3 before you deplete your discipline.
I'm working on a Shadow Power build now, focusing on a quick regen of Discipline to keep the buff up as much as possible.
I think vault with the tumbler runestone effect will find its way into a lot of builds. It really increases the number of vaults you'll be able to use back to back. As of now at default you can do 3 before you deplete your discipline.
Would it be okay to assume that runes work a bit like glyphs in WoW?
I don't necessarily mean how they affect spells but more as in how (easily) they're acquired and redistributed.
In a PvP perspective it seems best (to me) to have quick acces to high lvl glyphs once you're at the appropriate level. Having gear + glyphs as empowering factors over less lucky people seems a bit much.
I don't necessarily mean how they affect spells but more as in how (easily) they're acquired and redistributed.
In a PvP perspective it seems best (to me) to have quick acces to high lvl glyphs once you're at the appropriate level. Having gear + glyphs as empowering factors over less lucky people seems a bit much.
And here is my Shadow Power Regen Build. The basic idea is to keep Shadow Power up as much as possible and this build will be a total wash if Blizzard has a cooldown on it.
Anyhow, Hit Shadow Power for >attack speed bonus then Preparation to start regen on Discipline then spam the fuck outta Multi which is also regen Disc. I've runestoned Shadow Power to regen Hatred on top of a bat companion for hatred regen and any orbs I pick up will regen hatred along with my basic attack. Couple that with reduced Disc costs and I'm hoping you can keep spamming shadow power and multishot for quite a while.
Should be fun to muck around with anyways!
I've read that they are thinking about destroying runestones when changing them out. Not to mention you have to build them up from low to high level, so I think this is where they will prevent ppl from just swapping shit out without any consequences.
Anyhow, Hit Shadow Power for >attack speed bonus then Preparation to start regen on Discipline then spam the fuck outta Multi which is also regen Disc. I've runestoned Shadow Power to regen Hatred on top of a bat companion for hatred regen and any orbs I pick up will regen hatred along with my basic attack. Couple that with reduced Disc costs and I'm hoping you can keep spamming shadow power and multishot for quite a while.
Should be fun to muck around with anyways!
Fonds said:
I've read that they are thinking about destroying runestones when changing them out. Not to mention you have to build them up from low to high level, so I think this is where they will prevent ppl from just swapping shit out without any consequences.
Well if you can get them easily then you don't really get affected too much by destroying them. I'm guessing they will be rare to acquire and destroyed when you place a new stone into an ability.
I'm just hoping that when you swap out abilities they retain their runestones and are only destroyed when you actually swap the stones themselves.
I'm just hoping that when you swap out abilities they retain their runestones and are only destroyed when you actually swap the stones themselves.
picklecannon
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That's my WD build. Basically tons of AoE abilities with the most tanky pets I could get. No mana regen runes because I don't think It'll be a problem, but just in case I took the zombie dog heal and health to use spells. Haunt and locust swarm to jump around while I rain of toad and then spam aoe spirit barrage. Also all of my spells do different types of damage so immune monsters will never be a problem.
That's my WD build. Basically tons of AoE abilities with the most tanky pets I could get. No mana regen runes because I don't think It'll be a problem, but just in case I took the zombie dog heal and health to use spells. Haunt and locust swarm to jump around while I rain of toad and then spam aoe spirit barrage. Also all of my spells do different types of damage so immune monsters will never be a problem.
meh. The only information it shows is level requirement. Since The damage dealt is also based on char level, they need to make swappable levels. (right now it's almost always showing 30)Aesthet1c said:
what exactly does it "calculate?". This looks more like "Hey show me your skills!" table.
but if they showed me STR,VIT,DEX,MANA and added the weapon I wield and the armor I wear - that would be so much more compelling.
CarbonatedFalcon
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TylerD said:
Maybe as a joke post for a couple hours before the full glory is edited in.
:O
Here's my barb build idea:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#cdebYU!agf!aaYZZY
Leap attack > ground stomp initiate to draw all the enemies close, then battle rage to increase my damage and cleave to deal the aoe damage. Hammer for finisher/vs bosses. Revenge because it's free damage and sustainability.
Would probably actually end up going with the flat damage increase runestone for cleave, but the rupture sounds like fun.
Passive skills all sustainability/survivability.
Cleave spam main damage source, hammer for rage dumps, try to keep battle rage up 100% for damage bonus. Seems doable, it will depend on fury generation though, may have to change one of my passives to one of the fury generating ones.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#cdebYU!agf!aaYZZY
Leap attack > ground stomp initiate to draw all the enemies close, then battle rage to increase my damage and cleave to deal the aoe damage. Hammer for finisher/vs bosses. Revenge because it's free damage and sustainability.
Would probably actually end up going with the flat damage increase runestone for cleave, but the rupture sounds like fun.
Passive skills all sustainability/survivability.
Cleave spam main damage source, hammer for rage dumps, try to keep battle rage up 100% for damage bonus. Seems doable, it will depend on fury generation though, may have to change one of my passives to one of the fury generating ones.
CarbonatedFalcon said:
I want a big and beautiful first post.
Corky said:
Bah, you are behind me by a couple of weeks. Installed D2 + LOD and then bought Torchlight. My brother and I have been building up a Sorc (him) and Assassin (me) from drops only found within our games. The drops have not been very good at all.
raphier said:
The calculated amount is probably based on a lvl 30 character with just raw stats. (i.e. no gear.) I think its just an early Talent Checker to see the skills, so I expect them to expand on it when we actually have players to check. When you log into Battle.net, you select your character, so it "should" use that for stats.
Based upon WoW, I expect Blizzard to have an Armoury for Diablo 3 where players can check out their stats and gear, plus check out other players from the same guild etc.
Corky said:
*shakes head*
*quietly minimizes D2*
Shared Stash Information:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/3435570
This is fucking awful, this that famous 'almost unlimited amount of slots for items' stash? Havent they learnt anything from Diablo 2?
350 slots, jesus christ, what a letdown.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/3435570
This is fucking awful, this that famous 'almost unlimited amount of slots for items' stash? Havent they learnt anything from Diablo 2?
350 slots, jesus christ, what a letdown.
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