Diablo 3 Beta [Beta withdrawal underway!]
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Interesting to see that for the crafting recipes each difficulty has it's own 'salvage items'.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/crafting-material/
Like for a level 57 Rare Axe that gives +5 random properties it needs salvaged Hell items (Common, Magical, Rare) + 35,000 gold.
For that +6 Axe you need a ton more salvaged items from INFERNO and pay more gold for just that extra +1 property.
I think this is what they may have meant for end game. Uniques are still great, but trading your crap loot to gamble on crafts might be it?
So if you have a lot of MF you just pile blues and rares and craft those (or sell those to people to gamble to craft).
If DII items are anything to go by, really really good items will become fairly cheap and only the upper 2% of items that are 5% better will be worth anything?
Another question is if random properties can stack twice or more. So you get 2 +35% to Wizard damage modifiers and the item has +70% to Wizard damage.
Really wonder how close it is to Diablo II's item system.
SO EXCITED I WANT IT NOW
*These crafting boots make me sad. Similar level (17/21). +15 to all stats or 10% move speed? :'[
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/crafting-material/
Like for a level 57 Rare Axe that gives +5 random properties it needs salvaged Hell items (Common, Magical, Rare) + 35,000 gold.
For that +6 Axe you need a ton more salvaged items from INFERNO and pay more gold for just that extra +1 property.
I think this is what they may have meant for end game. Uniques are still great, but trading your crap loot to gamble on crafts might be it?
So if you have a lot of MF you just pile blues and rares and craft those (or sell those to people to gamble to craft).
If DII items are anything to go by, really really good items will become fairly cheap and only the upper 2% of items that are 5% better will be worth anything?
Another question is if random properties can stack twice or more. So you get 2 +35% to Wizard damage modifiers and the item has +70% to Wizard damage.
Really wonder how close it is to Diablo II's item system.
SO EXCITED I WANT IT NOW
*These crafting boots make me sad. Similar level (17/21). +15 to all stats or 10% move speed? :'[
CarbonatedFalcon
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Also some weapons named after games.
Sickle called Harvest Moon, and a sword called Monster Hunter that I've seen so far.
Sickle called Harvest Moon, and a sword called Monster Hunter that I've seen so far.
Setreal said:The real currency returns.
So many items are returning in some form or another. Just glancing through they have Tal Rasha's set, Oculus, Mara's and many many others (only really looking for Wizard / Sorc stuff at this point).
Edit:
Hilarious, Oculus ring is also making an appearance.
.CarbonatedFalcon
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Also The Murlocket.
picklecannon
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Hazaro said:
All the good old school items are going to wizards =(. I want my nostalgia maras on my WD.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/innas-justice
Increases Spirit regeneration by 540-1020 per minute (Monk Only)
If you get a good roll that is more than 15 a second.
Oh man Inferno is gonna be crazy.
Increases Spirit regeneration by 540-1020 per minute (Monk Only)
If you get a good roll that is more than 15 a second.
Oh man Inferno is gonna be crazy.
Those are impossible gems. You need like 20,000* of the gems that drop to get those. With 1% bonuses per level I think most people will just socket the 10-15% stuff.squidyj said:
Sockets on legendary/set items seem be 1 open socket on some items (mostly helms). No idea on socket item drops. Extra exp seems pretty nice.
picklecannon
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squidyj said:
The mf bonus is in helmets whereas precision is other. Also as already stated the radiant gems are going to be extremely expensive. Only up to flawless drop and the rest have to be transmuted.
picklecannon said:
They won't be that expensive. they are 100% chance to get the next level of gem every 3 gems of current level. It's pretty easy from there. All you need is 729 flawless drops to get a radiant star. That's not so much.
Okay so I thought followers were supposed to be obsolete after normal difficulty. If that's the case why do they have special items that require levels up to 50?
cheesetom said:Gull dagger is now garbage
+5-9% MF? really?! It used to be +100%
And there seems to be a lot less items than there were in D2
I guarantee you this isn't every item in the game, Blizzard wouldn't be stupid to A. give us so few and B. show us every item in the game.
Doesn't seem to be too far off from the Elite item system and such with different ranks per weapon. Cept for weapons directed at expansion characters and others that were patched in as the game went on.cheesetom said:Gull dagger is now garbage
+5-9% MF? really?! It used to be +100%
And there seems to be a lot less items than there were in D2
They have to keep us on the crack somehow.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Hazaro said:
Where did you see that?
And it certainly isn't showing every item in the game, I can confirm that. There are some small buff potions in the beta that I've seen people use, and they are nowhere to be found in the consumables section.
Of course there has to be some super rare stuff that they just won't list there either, especially if it's spoilerish.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/golden-animaCarbonatedFalcon said:
Also Potions that restore 8000HP instantly...
Seriously.Jira said:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/exalted-grand-oni-blade
60k gold per attempt. Gold is definitely going to be worth something, considering you have a chance at getting something better than a legendary when you try.
Correct. If the old system they had (3 gems to get the next tier) stays, it's around 19k or so flawless drops to get a radiant star. They said they might switch to 2 gems to get the next tier (only for higher level gems that is), which would drastically reduce that amount, possibly around 1000.Hazaro said:
The point of gems, if I recall correctly, was to really reward long time players, and give them something to work toward once they exhaust all the content in the game.
Hazaro said:
Okay I've read around a little bit and I don't think gems are consumed the same way they are in diablo 2, so 20k gems to max an emerald sort of makes sense now. You pay gold to unsocket the gem and then you can upgrade it some more. Eventually you will make it to Radiant Star but yeah, they will definitely be valuable
CarbonatedFalcon
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Hazaro said:
How did you get to that page though? I can't find a way to navigate it without using your link.
From here http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/crafting-material/, I don't see any way to get to where you got.
It's hidden from view normally, as far as I can tell.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/valuable-componentCarbonatedFalcon said:
Right side on crafting stuff.
krameriffic
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syko de4d said:
We wouldn't want items like HOTO, Enigma and Insight. They clearly break the balance vision Blizzard has for the game.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Hazaro said:
Ah. So it is still hidden though - the only way to get to the anima pages is to click on Valuable Component, Reusable Part, Assorted Fragment, or Common Scrap, and then look at that little list on the right. It's not browsable by default.
For those Demon Hunter fans out there.. check out the DH skill calculator. They're already showing the updated DH skills.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter
Hatred skills now come in two flavors: Hatred Generators and Hatred Spenders. So it works a bit like the Monk now where you use some damaging skills to add hatred and some to spend.
Looks like they still have some re-working to do on the runes as of this time though...some of them now don't make sense with the updates.
Also, new DH Beta skill unlock order:
1. Impale
2. Caltrops
2. Hungering Arrow
3. Evasive Fire
4. Bola Shot
5. Rapid Fire
6. Vault
7. Chakram
8. Entangling Shot
9. Elemental Arrow
11. Grenades
12. Shadow Power
So we'll see some new powers if we can assume these get patched into beta soon.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter
Hatred skills now come in two flavors: Hatred Generators and Hatred Spenders. So it works a bit like the Monk now where you use some damaging skills to add hatred and some to spend.
Looks like they still have some re-working to do on the runes as of this time though...some of them now don't make sense with the updates.
Also, new DH Beta skill unlock order:
1. Impale
2. Caltrops
2. Hungering Arrow
3. Evasive Fire
4. Bola Shot
5. Rapid Fire
6. Vault
7. Chakram
8. Entangling Shot
9. Elemental Arrow
11. Grenades
12. Shadow Power
So we'll see some new powers if we can assume these get patched into beta soon.
Some of the skills are changed too. Fan of Knives seems to have gotten a huge buff. ForceSC2 complained that it didn't do weapon damage and now it does over 200% o_o. And I suspect impale will be one of the hardest hitting abilities in the game if it crits.Artadius said:
Overall the class seems much more solid now.
carbonbased
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there's a difference between having interesting modifiers and granting obscenely powerful skills that are normally reserved for a single class. i have been playing the beta and love what i have seen so far, but i would be lying if i said that item database wasn't a big letdown.krameriffic said:
keltickennedy
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Just saw a email from Blizzard Entertainment in my inbox. Turns out it was just and update for a stupid deathwing raid. Fucking almost shit a brick, thinking i got into the beta.......kill me.
yeahe the item properties looks so WoW´ish. Only more Damage, Life, Crit or Defense. And no items thats looks like they made for special builds. Every Witch Item has +xx% Witch damage but i would prefer items with xx% Cold/Fire/Poisen etc. Damage.warbegins said:
With the items right now there are many best in slot items for almost every Build. There are not really many properties which focus on one Build.
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