Diablo 3 Beta [Beta withdrawal underway!]
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Yeah, I don't really see the problem either. If you want to MF efficiently either find a dedicated party, or just run solo. If you can't solo something, then you don't really deserve the loot so much, so don't cry about not getting it with as high a percentage of MF as you 'could have', because no, you couldn't.
And about the 3 people idling in the town argument - yeah, that makes sense... Now it only takes 4 people to get to 3/4 of decent MF when you kill the 4-people adjusted mobs all by yourself! Outrage! Seriously, why wouldn't you just stack MF and go about your business solo...?
And about the 3 people idling in the town argument - yeah, that makes sense... Now it only takes 4 people to get to 3/4 of decent MF when you kill the 4-people adjusted mobs all by yourself! Outrage! Seriously, why wouldn't you just stack MF and go about your business solo...?
Just played for a bit, impressions;
- Hardcore mode is bugged. I can't create a hardcore character, I receive an error message.
- Wizards were nerfed hard! Especially Arcane powers, which in my opinion, is a good thing.
- Gold drop has increased 10x, crafting is more difficult and getting a rare tooth is much more rare.
- No rings and ammys make me sad.
- Game seems to run a little smoother for me, but I still get massive screen tearing. Though my video card is like 1,400 years old.
- Monsters are much stronger and unique monsters spawn at almost double the rate. They also have a few more modifiers such as "Nightmarish" which causes you to flee when critically hit.
All in all this is a good patch. The difficulty increase is just what the game needed.
- Hardcore mode is bugged. I can't create a hardcore character, I receive an error message.
- Wizards were nerfed hard! Especially Arcane powers, which in my opinion, is a good thing.
- Gold drop has increased 10x, crafting is more difficult and getting a rare tooth is much more rare.
- No rings and ammys make me sad.
- Game seems to run a little smoother for me, but I still get massive screen tearing. Though my video card is like 1,400 years old.
- Monsters are much stronger and unique monsters spawn at almost double the rate. They also have a few more modifiers such as "Nightmarish" which causes you to flee when critically hit.
All in all this is a good patch. The difficulty increase is just what the game needed.
Pretty much.
Honestly, since loot is now worth actual money I think you can expect them to do a lot more to manage the economy and keep people from farming too effectively.
And I really can't say that I mind that. If they succeed, it'll be really interesting to have a game in which there are *genuinely* rare items.
The drag and drop from the hotbar on the field to clear your current skills works and you can go back to normal attack now by clearing your left and right mouse click.
Didn't try the drag skills from UI to hotbar.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Yeah, it seems like the devs figured that with shared MF, there are less possible ways to exploit it than with individual MF.
I still say that gear-centric MF in general causes more problems than positives and introduces the wrong incentives for gameplay.
I still say that gear-centric MF in general causes more problems than positives and introduces the wrong incentives for gameplay.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Oooh, we can use ancient spear now?
With all the skill shuffling going around it seems like they want us to give feedback on skills by making some of them lower level since they can't increase the level cap in the beta.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Hmm, the updater has been stuck at 0% for a long time now....
Barb is awesome, definitely my main in retail. Very cool that you can try out 2 new skills now, got my 6th run planned for the weekend!
Tried closing and starting it back up again? That helped most of the time when it stopped updating for me.
Updated to patch 14, still can't log in. It's been 3 weeks with no proper answer from Blizzard on the subject and a lot of people are affected by it (50+page thread on the bnet forums that got unsticky'd a few days ago with nothing said) grrrr. Come on Blizzard, I want to play for christ sake! 
Demon Hunter got two new abilties to try, Preparation and Smoke Screen, both of which seem pretty worthless at such a low level without any rune effects. They made the bola shot instant explode when firing at environment objects, while it still has a delay for mobs. I get the change, just seems odd from a functionality point of view. I don't guess they care whether it's explainable in game or not. 
Also the "Chain Gang" rune is now available for Entangling Shot.
The change in item lvl requirement is pretty odd. All of my blue crafted pants went to a lvl 14 requirement except one pair I've been using for MF/GF. They went to lvl 28 requirement. I also have a crappy helm with some MF/GF on it that also went to lvl 28. Luckily I still have all of my rings and amulets and I was keeping two white hand xbows that do 16 dps each. It's a good thing too, as all of my other hand xbows are now too high lvl to be wielded.
* - They also added a rune ability to Rapid Fire reducing initial cost to 5 hatred and adding fire damage. This is one is really nice.
Also the "Chain Gang" rune is now available for Entangling Shot.The change in item lvl requirement is pretty odd. All of my blue crafted pants went to a lvl 14 requirement except one pair I've been using for MF/GF. They went to lvl 28 requirement. I also have a crappy helm with some MF/GF on it that also went to lvl 28. Luckily I still have all of my rings and amulets and I was keeping two white hand xbows that do 16 dps each. It's a good thing too, as all of my other hand xbows are now too high lvl to be wielded.
* - They also added a rune ability to Rapid Fire reducing initial cost to 5 hatred and adding fire damage. This is one is really nice.
helloresolven
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Happy to see hardcore mode has been reduced from finished normal to level 10 character.
Means I'll only have to play softcore for 10 levels and then the real Diablo begins!
Means I'll only have to play softcore for 10 levels and then the real Diablo begins!
So... I got to play through the beta at last on a friend's account. I'd seen others play it in our internet cafe, and had clicked around a bit, but actually playing was quite a different experience.
Could be that I'm starved for anything Diablo, but I really liked it. The atmosphere and gameplay were all Diablo, music is nice, sorceress spells looked great. Can't wait for the mythical day to actually come.
Even the floating red orbs I hated seeing on videos were not so distracting while playing.
However, it's really a shame that a company of Blizzard's resources couldn't create a more scale-able engine to take advantage of modern day PCs.
Especially on that scene where the wall breaks and skeletons run out while the camera zooms in... it was worse than WoW, reminded me of Warcraft 3 models, extremely out of place and cartoon like. I hope there are not many such zooms since they opted to go the low-poly, outdated graphics way.
Could be that I'm starved for anything Diablo, but I really liked it. The atmosphere and gameplay were all Diablo, music is nice, sorceress spells looked great. Can't wait for the mythical day to actually come.
Even the floating red orbs I hated seeing on videos were not so distracting while playing.
However, it's really a shame that a company of Blizzard's resources couldn't create a more scale-able engine to take advantage of modern day PCs.
Especially on that scene where the wall breaks and skeletons run out while the camera zooms in... it was worse than WoW, reminded me of Warcraft 3 models, extremely out of place and cartoon like. I hope there are not many such zooms since they opted to go the low-poly, outdated graphics way.
Lazy Jones
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Um, how do you dye armor? Or has it been removed?
You can't in the beta.
As for HC mode, what do they accomplish by making you play for 10 lvls?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I guess it's so that idiots don't accidentally try to do hardcore mode from the beginning.
Honestly, they should just give you the option to choose hardcore from the start. Changing it from "you have to complete normal first" to "you have to complete the first 10 levels first" is pretty ridiculous.
And I was just thinking last night that now everyone is going to bitch about having to level to 10 before you start a HC character. For first timers that may want to play hardcore I really don't think that playing a single character to level 10 and learning a bit about the game mechanics is that big of a deal. For anyone that wants to play hardcore right away and has played Diablo before they are looking at maybe 1.5 to 2 hrs time commitment at the most.
Slides from "The Art of Diablo III" at GDC
http://www.4gamer.net/games/008/G000817/20120309086/
If someone comes across a video please share it.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/008/G000817/20120309086/
If someone comes across a video please share it.
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Use Elective Mode in Gameplay options to get to it.
Game feels a lot better to play imo.
Feels like more mobs, they dealing more damage.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
I already knew Barbarian was going to be beastly in this game but now they have a 30% damage reduction by default as well? Wow. Monk is going to be great too.
PVP cut from initial release will come in a post launch patch http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/4574895
Another thing cut when will it end.
The only positive thing i can see is the release date announcement coming in days not weeks.
Another thing cut when will it end.
The only positive thing i can see is the release date announcement coming in days not weeks.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Okay, now that is really weird. I don't think cutting out PvP from the shipping product signals anything but an extremely troubled development.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Well it means that the game isn't feature complete. Sure, WoW didn't have Battlegrounds until they were patched in, and Arenas weren't introduced until Burning Crusade, but before then at least you had world PvP. And you sort of expect major patches with an MMO, which Diablo is not.
Now, it doesn't seem as if there will be any form of PvP until they patch this in. PvP may not be the main focus of the game, but it's a gaping hole in the feature set.
Subterranean
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That is weird of them to do but if that means I get Diablo 3 faster then so be it. I was going to PvP after I ran all the acts anyway.
maabus1999
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How many promised post launch features for sc2 has blizzard not yet fullfilled ?
MrPing1000
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Let me in the beta please :/
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
PvP not ready yet, huh? If that's what it takes, then go for it.
What the heck have they been doing with their time all this time? Haven't they been content complete for a long time now?
What the heck have they been doing with their time all this time? Haven't they been content complete for a long time now?
maabus1999
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Six years with multiple cuts and signicant system changes at the end makes me agree the development has not gone smoothly at all...I like blizzard games but Im alittle nervous with this one.
maabus1999
Member
According to a Jay Wilson tweet, this patch appears to be the last one and is basically the "release candidate" version of the game.
Means release is soon. Hopefully they get their server issues straightened out.
Means release is soon. Hopefully they get their server issues straightened out.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Anybody up for some 4-player start from scratch ironman within the next hour or so?
Oblivionmancer
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Yeah... I don't want any Blizzard property 'call-of-duty-ized' but 6(?) years is goddamn long enough. At a certain point it stops being about meticulous attention to detail, and becomes about a busted, inefficient development pipeline.
helloresolven
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Blizzard has had long enough.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I can't get the beta to update.
I had that problem too. I opened task manager, force quit the updater, then let it sit for a while. Went back, closed it again, opened it again, and then it started updating. Go figure.
Also you probably want to make sure that your firewall or antivirus or something isn't blocking anything.
I pretty much had to do the same. It sat at 0% the first few times too.
I wonder how close to release close is? Will be nice to actually play it!
Salz01
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I want Activision to step it up a little with Blizzard and this game. It's taking forfuckingever to release. And each post they do, they cut or change something that should have been thought of 2 years ago. Every time Blizzard or Jay posts something about the game, I just groan. The only post or topic they should do from now on is, This is the date we are releasing...have a nice day. Not that I was looking forward to the Pvp, but it's just another thing that's cut or changing this late in development.
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