Burger
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You could try bootcamp (as I am with similar specs) but the final build is supposed to perform better than the beta).
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You could try bootcamp (as I am with similar specs) but the final build is supposed to perform better than the beta).
BackdoorBeauty
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This article doesn't take into account the full Diablo 3 stat system, actually. It doesn't mention Nephalem Valor, which creates the incentive to stick with a particular build, rather than re-stat constantly after level 60,
See here: http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2012/5/3/diablo-3s-ability-system.html
That Kotaku article gets 2/10 for effort.. guest editorial? Eyeroll.gif
Loving the backlash in the comments though.
That's basically the reaction I'd expect if someone was told "There are no skill trees" and that was it.
Quality Kotaku article. A+. Would read again.
Mine is slightly better, guess I can't be too pretentious and I can bare with it for some days (new rig not coming in time for DIII's release is such a letdown, but meh).
fizzelopeguss
Banned
Still no change from tesco (awaiting despatch) i've got a horrible feeling i'm not gonna get it early or even launch day.
BackdoorBeauty
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I couldn't help myself, so I watched a CE unboxing video.
Quick question: Are guest passes the same thing as the starter edition on battle.net? If they're an unlimited pass to play the game for a set amount of hours or something, that could solve my problems quite nicely.
If it's the same as the starter edition...meh.
Nope. Nope nope nope.
Quick question: Are guest passes the same thing as the starter edition on battle.net? If they're an unlimited pass to play the game for a set amount of hours or something, that could solve my problems quite nicely.
If it's the same as the starter edition...meh.
Nope. Nope nope nope.
I've seen more compelling arguments in the Blizzard forums. How are people like this employed? Or are they just purposely trolling for the hits (ala Jim Sterling)?
But without Kotaku articles like that, I can't feel smugly superior to the idiots!
So, someone who did not play the Beta nd has not kept up to date with what D3 is doing, sits down to write an article. Thanks!
If it's guest pass like SC2 had, it gave you access to the whole game, but once you used up the time, you were locked out of all of it.
BackdoorBeauty
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witchedwiz
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Soon,soooooo soon
Bootcamp that, it will run just fine.
If it's the same as SC2, I hereby pledge every last one of my guest passes to GAF if someone that got delivery of the CE early is willing to give me a guest pass.
I'm googling in search of answers, but I can't find any. Are there any pictures of those guest passes up on any of the spoiler filled sites I refuse to visit?
I should've been more obvious; there are a bunch of people who probably do think along the lines of that article. At most, I understand people not liking the removal of the planning of builds and, as a heavy min/maxer, I do sympathize on that since that's some of the great fun of building characters for me. That said, having _more options_ that I can go through is even more fun than that. No long-term planning and hoping things pan out but more short-term thorough min/maxing. It's like a win/win to me.
UnluckyKate
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I really can't bootcamp : Diablo 3 will already take too much place.
I trust blizzard : Diablo is running worse than SC2 for now but the later drop insanely fast. And they did increase perf for mac after SC2 release.
So maybe it's worse now but I feel that it will be more stable
Fairly certain normal editions come with passes too. SC2 did anyway. Had guest passes for SC2 and WoW inside.
CadetMahoney
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGTewKFM8PA
hmmm how does a youtube video have 302 views but 402 likes?
Guess it must be that server update difference.
UnluckyKate
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Youtube as a common bug that freeze view counter at 302 for video getting popular really fast
fluffydelusions
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YES! Yogscast CE unboxing...hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oymrqt3KKmk&feature=g-all-u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oymrqt3KKmk&feature=g-all-u
CadetMahoney
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small mice > big mice
Basically everything. Well, sort of. I mean, yes, stats are automatically distributed on level-up and there are no skill trees. This doesn't somehow shatter build variation or anything of the sort. It essentially moves "planning a character build" from the front-end to over the course of your character. That is, you don't need to know precisely what you want to make at the start of the character. You can adjust on the fly as your playstyle changes or "shit, that ability is actually pretty cool." It's more freedom in the build design process.
The mouse I took a shot of is smaller than my palm. I fucking dwarf that thing. I have the weirdest claw grip for it just so I can actually use it lol.
I'm quickly learning that it's impossible to get any answers to important questions on the blizzard forums.
Runes. You switch abilities/runes and your build completely changes.
Runes. You switch abilities/runes and your build completely changes.
CadetMahoney
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian
should be obvious, no? I mean, I was pretty down on D3 and I hadn't followed its development at all, but when I saw the skill calculator and started playing around with it, my hype went through the roof. It's . . . elegant. It rewards experimentation. And the Valor buff at sixty means it also rewards people for locking down a build they find comfortable.
Hmmm, and you keep just finding better ones over the course of the game? Or level up their abilities automatically? Somehow missed that part entirely.
You have six categories of skills that you can freely swap out (with Elective Mode, the "category" part is thrown out so it's any six skills you want to use). Each skill has six runes that change how they function. You're free to just change them as you see fit.
Stats are automagically allocated, sure, but you're still gear dependent. That'll be the majority of your everything you get. Honestly, Diablo 2's stat system was essentially "STR to meet min req, DEX to meet min req, VIT otherwise, lol Energy." Somehow that translates to meaningful decisions, I guess.
For Inferno difficulty, you're rewarded for sticking to a build via the Nephalem Valor system. There's still something in there for finding the "right" build rather than having a bunch of situation-based right builds.
MichaelEM3
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So even if I pre-ordered a physical copy (Collector's Edition, if that matters) I can download the US client in the opening and be good to go? I'll just need the disk to verify proof of purchase? I won't have to install anything come May 15th?
Sorry if this has been asked 666 times.
Sorry if this has been asked 666 times.
You don't find them, they just unlock as you level. When you count how many abilities there are, and then multiply by how many runes there are per ability, it's a pretty staggeringly high number.
When you level, you don't get to put points into anything.
No, not without the key. Hence my issue that I've been
Edit: re-reading, if you don't mean to actually play the game at midnight, then yes, you don't have to install anything from the discs. Also, a key verifies the purchase, not the discs.
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Ah alright. And I guess you find better runes, which then make your skills better?
Also: How does the valor system work?
MichaelEM3
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Yeah, I'm fine with waiting until UPS drops off my package. I just don't want to have to wait on the install once it finally does arrive.
Sweet. Going to install the game right now.
I assume it'll ask for a product key (included in the box/on the disc?) when it's done installing, right?
Different is a better descriptor to be honest, they change the affect (e.g. One might add damage, the other knockback, the other a heal) and you can tailor them to the way you play (or tailor the way you play to the rune).
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4241234476
You can download the client right now (7.6gb or so), but you can't install it. It won't let you install until the 14th at 8am (thanks Valnen).
You'll enter the key on battle.net I think. I'm not sure if the client itself will ask for a key.
I would be wary if if my computer only ran the game at <30fps playable on low settings in the beta. Judging by the gameplay clips we've seen, later acts and difficulties start getting pretty insane with the number of enemies and effects on screen.
If possible it might be worth upgrading video cards, I think.
If possible it might be worth upgrading video cards, I think.
8 AM PDT.
So you'll still find the same runes 20 hours into the game? The one rune adding heal 20 hours into the game wont make your skill better than the one you found 1 hour into the game?
MichaelEM3
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I don't think we have exacts (e.g., numbers) but Nephalem Valor is a stacking buff you get for killing Champions, Uniques, Bosses, etc. enemies. This bonus is lost if you leave the game or if you change your current skills (e.g., swap out a skill for another or select a different rune).
Edit: Forgot to actually say the "what" it does. It increases your Magic Find% and Gold Find% so you get better items and more gold when you kill things. It also just gives you more loot period.
Basically, the system is that all level 60 characters of a certain class will have the same stats and toolbox. Your diversity is in your equipment (which will be 90%+ of your "stats" anyway) and your skills you're using. The skill combinations are somewhere in the upper millions, I believe. Essentially, Blizzard moved your final build planning from the start of the game to the end of the game. It's no longer front-loaded.
I just checked the who posted list and Yoshi has 300 more posts than the 2nd poster on the list..
Jesus O-O
You don't find the runes. They automatically show up on the skill selection page when you level up. Everyone gets the same ones at the same level (if they are the same class).
The server will kick you for inactivity eventually. I'm not sure, but I'd assume the buff goes away when you get kicked.
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