Damn, that's just scary
Hackers are a persistent bunch, or he must have some really good stuff in his account.
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Damn, that's just scary
Hackers are a persistent bunch, or he must have some really good stuff in his account.
Yeah, log in is through email+pass+authenticator
I think the battletag is just a unique name identifier so you don't have to give out any specific information. Unlike character specific friends ships It's an account friendship.
ThatStupidLion
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disappointingly I plan to play DH first, but I kinda don't want to due to it's popularity now...:-/
i fear all multiplayer games will be chock full of DH
I never had an authenticator attached to my account until a few weeks ago and I have never been compromised. The only reason I did it is because I'm on a 2-step authentication spree with Gmail, my bank, etc. That's all the way since Vanilla WoW, though B.NET accounts didn't exist until 2008(?).
You definitely always have a chance without one but I think ultimately it's mostly people falling for phishing and other things. With that said, if you have a smart phone there is absolutely no reason not to use it.
It's an insane cash cow If you set up gold farms... and accounts are expensive so farmers just hack them and use them until they get banned. Then they hack more accounts.
RepairmanJack
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Damn, that's just scary
Hackers are a persistent bunch, or he must have some really good stuff in his account.
I don't know what it is or how they would do it, but it really seems like there is some kind of system to know when people take authenticators off. So many stories I hear of people getting hacked are always soon after removing an authenticator for some reason.
It's probably blizzard to scare people into getting them.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
If your battle.net account doesn't look like this, what are you even doing in this thread !?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
The match-making will find diversity in classes. The plan is to never group anyone with the same class in the same server.
SteveWinwood
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Yeah but why are they so vulnerable is what he's saying. I don't fear my online banking is going to get hacked or my cc login.
I get why people *want* to, what I don't get is why it's so *vulnerable* that people feel the need to use something that used to be the domain of only the security departments of large corporations.
Ie. why is having a decently strong password not good enough.
Keylogging is the major issue. People have easy ways of finding players that are connecting to the WoW servers, then they keylog them.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I would love to know this as-well... is hacking a common this on Steam?
I'd imagine it's mostly just from scam e-mails and other phishing things. The occasional WoW-centric virus or exploit kind of thing. I'd imagine proper password security and reasonable intelligence about scams will be good enough 99% of the time.
perryfarrell
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As I said, B.net accounts are not the same as Battle tags. I wasn't sure whether multiple tags could be associated with one and the same account.
But, as others have said, the answer's no. Which makes me a happy camper, being able to cross-game chat, etc.
SteveWinwood
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You can set up two step authentication on steam as well. I've only heard of a few hacking issues with steam vs the tons I hear about with wow.
RepairmanJack
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I've actually never had my WoW account hacked but I have had steam hacked. Not sure how it even happend, but it was fixed pretty quickly. Luckily my payment info wasn't saved. Also I've had an authenticator on my bilzzard account for a long while so that helps.
Steam has a system inplace that won't let you log on unless you enter a code that's sent to your email.
As for why it's easy for hackers on WoW, I assume just brute fucking force. As well as social engineering, and plain ole compromised machines.
I've had quite a few guild members hacked. And atleast one that was hacked when he took of his authenticator for like a day.
My friend's girlfriend had her account hacked. He couldn't even figure out how. She had a really secure password (he's system admin/programmer, so he forces it on her), he searched her machine for any keyloggers and what not... found nothing. Not sure what happened to this day.
There isn't much money to made off of steam accounts (at least not in the same manner as WoW), unless you sell their TF2 hats. Encouraging the 2-step authentication with Steam Guard probably helps a ton as well.
Keyloggers basically don't care how strong a pw is - that's the problem.
You know, if you have a keylogger on your machine you probably have bigger problems than your wow account getting hacked.
OTP just seems like such a ridiculously heavy-handed solution to this problem.
Based off my spam e-mails, my WoW account is royally fucked seventeen times over.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Oh my :lol
Ploid 3.0
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arts&crafts
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Well Steam does the email code every time you switch computers so they would need your email aswell. Also WoW they can just vendor all your items / trade them to their character within minutes while in Steam they could just play your games?
ThatStupidLion
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From Blizzcon 2011...so this might have been posted before, but for anyone interested in seeing the "making of" d3 cinematic, check it out. its about 1 hr in length.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-gNsbL6BmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-gNsbL6BmA
You heard it here, better get those Authenticators
And Steam uses Steam Guard which not only identifies connections from different IP's, It uses a unique identification number that is associated with your computer's processor. Every time you log in from a new location your are emailed an access code that allows your account to be log into from that location. Blizzard should use this IMO.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Hahahaha
I'm officially on my weekend. Let the boredom and rabid posting commence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzFl6sWHmXI&feature=related
Persona 4 OST to help me push out all this hype energy.
Hah, this has to happen.
Probably is a bit excessive. I didn't really follow the authenticator business when it released so I can only guess but I wager there were just a lot of complaints about hacked accounts due to scams and other silly things. OTP is most likely overkill but it's peace of mind and gives Blizzard a, "Hacked account? No Authenticator? Sorry," response they can use.
Plus, $6.50 for the keyfob is mad merchandising money. $$.
I have never shared my account info with anyone. I never do in mmo's, never in the 12 years I've been playing them. In WoW, I rarely even grouped, and didn't even join a guild. I'm pretty paranoid when it comes to online stuff, so I've always had nod32 up to date, and have always ran spybot and ad-aware regularly, even going to the trouble of doing it in safe mode.
I let my WoW account lapse last year, and two months later I get hacked. I re-upped it a few months ago, Blizzard had returned all my gold and items but all my gear was broken.
I have no idea how it happened. By all accounts, it shouldn't have.
For the people who have an authenticator, dont remove it... EVER. I scan every pc/laptop I log into WoW, SC2 or just the battle.net site regularly. One day I removed it for a couple of hours, and bam! hacked!
Right after that they managed to get into my live account and purchased about 3000 points.
Lucky enough I was at work and I saw my email account getting the notifications that I purchases so many points, so I managed to contact every party involved and resolved the issue. The attacks on my accounts lasted for several days though, I think the person/program gave up like a week ago now.
Right after that they managed to get into my live account and purchased about 3000 points.
Lucky enough I was at work and I saw my email account getting the notifications that I purchases so many points, so I managed to contact every party involved and resolved the issue. The attacks on my accounts lasted for several days though, I think the person/program gave up like a week ago now.
Winnie the Pimp
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i AM convinced to get an authenticator now but come on guys, some of you make it sound like if you do NOT have one you WILL get hacked as soon as you set up an account!
I mean it may be bad but THAT bad?
My gf and I played Wow for YEARS without getting hacked so it can't be THAT extreme hmm
I mean it may be bad but THAT bad?
My gf and I played Wow for YEARS without getting hacked so it can't be THAT extreme hmm
That's true, I suppose. And based off some of these reports, maybe there's just some other security flaw involved.
Honestly, it's a small amount of time to utilize it. It may be excessive but oh well. Plus, swag.
Just get the dial in one and you're good to go.
arts&crafts
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Does this mean I can only read the thread if I listen to "Math Rock"?
No, it's not that bad but you do run the gamble without one.
Basically it comes down to this:
1. If you have IOS/android, get it. It's free, no reason not to. Entering the damn number takes... 10 seconds.
2. If you need to purchase the physical device, you need to weigh the potential of being hacked and losing items, and having your account locked up for X amount of days is worth 6 bucks.
ThatStupidLion
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Heckmanimation Likes this.
do anyone think or has blizzard alluded to bringing any of the other classes in expansions? or are they trying to go all new you think?
Yeah, anyone can use the dial-in version even without a smartphone. Blizzard just wants you account secure, and they don't want to waste money on all the recovery operations.
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