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nah, waiting for your UPS delivery on tuesday as everyone else plays is worse imo
You raise a good point. I will pray to the UPS gods on your behalf.
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Barack Lesnar
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It is really a genius mechanic that solves a big issue with the genre. When people want to discuss new innovations in the genre Neph Valor should be one of the things brought up for sure. D2's end game was just killing the bosses over and over, joining baal run-47 or chaos run-43 or solo'ing bosses repeatedly. That was the entire end game of Diablo 2. You didn't explore the world and different areas, you just rushed to the bosses and killed them. Neph Valor has completely changed that.
mysocksarepink
Banned
I'm so happy
I'm playing the outlander class in torchlight 2... and he's DEATHLY familiar to the demon hunter gettin me ready!!
I'm playing the outlander class in torchlight 2... and he's DEATHLY familiar to the demon hunter
gettin me ready!!.. Or people will find a way to game it just like they do everything else. I'm not sure why the length of the boss-run makes a difference to the fact that it's a boss-run.
Ofc that too. But you know how people are.
Yes! I just hope that they don't make it really weak because user-friendliness/casuals.
The bigger thing is that it promotes killing things between waypoint and boss rather than just getting to the boss.
Boss runs wont be the best and only way to get drops ot seems. Hunting down packs of elites will be rewarding, this will also be more fun then only doing 5 min runs in the same area I think.
But youre right that people will find some optimum place to farm anyhoo.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
How will they game it?
The length includes exploring areas to kill champs and elites for drops. Having the end result still be a boss kill doesn't negate the fact that the process to get there is different and adds much needed variety to your item finding.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
The only way to game it is to use it as intended. You only get the buff by killing random elite mobs.
Raijin_Cain
Member
I should be playing Pth of Exile but now Im watching Kripp videos.
Ok, now I stop. xD
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Killing Mephisto in D2 entailed:
1) taking the waypoint to Durance of Hate level 2
2) teleporting/running as fast as you can past all the monsters to find the entrance to level 3
3) teleporting/running past the travincal elites at entrance to level 3
4) killing mephisto
5) repeat
With Neph Valor there's actual incentive to explore the levels and kill other mobs rather than just rushing to the boss and ignoring everything else. Such a big addition to the game, kudos to whoever thought of it. This will help with the repetitiveness of end game greatly.
1) taking the waypoint to Durance of Hate level 2
2) teleporting/running as fast as you can past all the monsters to find the entrance to level 3
3) teleporting/running past the travincal elites at entrance to level 3
4) killing mephisto
5) repeat
With Neph Valor there's actual incentive to explore the levels and kill other mobs rather than just rushing to the boss and ignoring everything else. Such a big addition to the game, kudos to whoever thought of it. This will help with the repetitiveness of end game greatly.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Good man
I got that mail, and the URL seems to match was Blizz is providing on their site.
But yeah, this:
I feel like this is one of those things that's going to be great for the first couple months...but the 500th time you're running each of these areas you're going to miss just being able to rush to the boss.
Lion Heart
Banned
El Diablo!
aliencowz7
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It's going to turn into where can you find 5 packs of elites most commonly closest together and then a boss, its inevitable in these kinds of games.
What's going to happen is probably finding the first Champion/Unique, killing it, and then rushing the boss. Or just rushing the boss and dealing with it.
Edit: Or just dealing with longer runs for better loot chances rather than shorter runs with worse loot chances.
I got an email just over a week ago claiming to be an invite to the Mists of Pandaria beta. Every link in it was legitimate except for the one asking me to enter my info on. It's kinda sad, but I can imagine them tricking many simpletons out there. It even had proper english in the body of the message!
WTF Bro? Be a Barbarian, and Leap Attack directly over the portal to Hell to Mephisto.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
True, but if the elites/champs really do drop as good possible loot as the bosses then it shouldn't really matter. You can also do all different areas not just 1 or 2 same ones. Could probably even do act 1 since you're just building up the magic find % number.
This is true and something I'm sure Blizz would address in a balance update. It would be a pretty easy thing to change too... just make the elite spawn different.
Huh. But now that I'm checking my mailbox, I did get a "Blizzard Insider" mail from the same adress.
well they did say that it will probably stack
edit: http://www.diablofans.com/news/1126-nephalem-valor-buff/
LowParry
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Best way around it is, check your battle.net account.
Is there a cap on MF? I'm curious if eventually with enough magic find, you would be able to hit the cap with just 1 elite kill and then rush to the boss. So many mysteries still!
Heavy said:
Yeah, I know hopefully on Inferno it won't matter what area you run, the loot should be good either way. But no matter what, after awhile you're going to have seen every area 50 billion times if you consistently play the game.
RPGCrazied
Member
Probably won't need it Blizzard usually has a lot of graphic tweaking in its options. I just hope it has some sort of in game AA.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Well this makes it sound like killing elites/rares is simply the best way to go about it. Killing a boss with NV active only adds X # of items to the drop and makes the drops as good as the elites/rares.
True but the first kill is enough to improve boss loot. That's the big thing. Though, we can't be certain of anything until we get to play the game. I'm looking forward to it no matter what though.
Edit: Well, sort of I guess. Bosses aren't the best source of loot in D3 anyway.
sorijealut
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By finding an area of the game more likely to spawn rares and elites and then marching off to a boss to take advantage of it.
It's not like Baal and Pindle were the only places in D2 where you could get good drops, they were just the easiest to min/max time vs. reward, not to mention doing something over and over again means you get better at doing it. I think it's delusional to think there won't be something similar in D3.
They aren't?! I don't understand.
Fill me in please
Champions/Uniques drop better loot. Nephalem Valor makes bosses on par with them. Basically, you'll want to kill Champions/Uniques primarily for loot and use Nephalem Valor to make a boss just another Champion/Unique, basically.
Edit: The only iffy part is that the buff adds an extra item drop (i.e., it goes from 2 item drops to 3). Maybe that'll be enough to make bosses worth it but it'll still be due to the buff first and foremost.
Lion Heart
Banned
I never played D2 online. If my buddy and I start a new game and one of us selects a quest, do we both get it? Will we see the same cutscenes as well?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Welp, that really sucks.
picklecannon
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Even if it's only killing X boss Y amount of times over and over again the one change I appreciate is private drops. Now group mf is going to be viable and even if you get poopie drops your buddies can always hand off the loot they get for your class.
Yeah. But you sometimes have to be really careful to both be in the same place to get the quest triggers. Especially the end-of-act ones. If one of you TPs in the middle of an andarial fight, for eg., only the one down there will get into Act 2 if she dies.
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