Blizzard 2012 seems absolutely intent on having minions/pets be largely useless, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. Though I am actually impressed with the fact that damage on my followers has come up from the 1/50 or so it was of my own damage to 1/10 or so in late hell. Still, D2:LoD minions these are not.
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Blizzard 2012 seems absolutely intent on having minions/pets be largely useless, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. Though I am actually impressed with the fact that damage on my followers has come up from the 1/50 or so it was of my own damage to 1/10 or so in late hell. Still, D2:LoD minions these are not.
StickSoldier
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Yeah its a shame. I was all excited when I watched the class trailer for the WD and I saw the dogs, spiders, and gargantuan, thinking that I'd be able to run around with those guys. Who in the fuck was I kidding.... I mean, I just don't understand how they can just let us WDs go out there with so many worthless skills, especially considering how much of a hindrance mana is on this game.
ShadyLurker
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How's this for a leveling weapon through hell? Can't find anything remotely similar on the AH, the highest lvl 55 weapon is in the 500s and this can be equiped at 50... Anyone have any clue what it may be worth? I might just end up keeping it for myself though haha
You wanna search for a level 60 weapon, but with "reduced level req'd"@5 as one of the stats.
Edit: just noticed, pretty sure you can't equip that at 50, the required level is taking the stat into account and that's actually a level60 item.
How's this for a leveling weapon through hell? Can't find anything remotely similar on the AH, the highest lvl 55 weapon is in the 500s and this can be equiped at 50... Anyone have any clue what it may be worth? I might just end up keeping it for myself though haha
It's hard to sell reduced level req items because they don't show up when people search for stuff in their level range. You need to specifically look for a level 60 item with the reduced requirement modifier.
But I mean, I thought hell was easy with a 400 and later 600 dps two hander, so you're good to go.
Edit: Er, like the guy above me said, you need to be 55 to use it.
Leaping spider zerg is most certainly useful and is actually the highest damage per mana for the class. (well fire spiders do 2 percent more damage but don't leap to targets so they're kinda useless). 4 spiders dealing 19% weapon damage per hit and doing 4 hits before perishing equals close to 220% weapon damage for like 5 mana. Considering they're a heat seeking zerg, you don't even have to worry about missing with your aim.
I got through most of Normal and Nightmare and Hell using spiders. Never once used darts once Spiders got unlocked.
Pets do kinda blow, at least the dogs. You can get away with not using VQ but you'll end up using mana regen on your spirit walk instead. With the cooldown passive, you can regain a bunch of mana every 13 seconds or so. I spammed rains of frogs in between my spider tosses, and that was my main damage for most of the game. The poison damage from frogs with poison AE on Gargantuan coupled with the 20% damage debuff from poison passive can help in groups too.
It definitely has survivability issues late game and mana does suck, especially since we are the only class in the game without free "primary" attacks.
Johnlenham
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Yeah im not doing to well with D3, Got my monk on the USA server and then I htougth id make a WD on Eu as my bro and his mate are barb/wiz and well yeah everyones saying WD blows for inferno.
Running around on normal with dogs,frogs,spiders and the giant was a right laugh.
Running around on normal with dogs,frogs,spiders and the giant was a right laugh.
Oh, I see, that makes more sense, didn't know it was already taken into account. But still pretty awesome. I finished hell on my first character with a 400dps weapon so this will still be a huge difference. Thanks
thetrin
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It kind of doesn't matter who is useless right now, because things are changing as patches are rolling out. Just play what you enjoy. Don't worry about the consequences.
cpp_is_king
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So apparently Warcry's 20% armor stacks on top of Nerves of Steel's armor bonus, but not on top of Tough as Nails' armor bonus.
Feature or Bug?
Feature or Bug?
Johnlenham
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Fair point. My play time has dropped right off recently so I probably wont even make it to inferno with my WD before the patch is out haha
Did someone say they are switching to global play?
Me too :\ It also told me my transaction didn't go through, so I ended up buyin ANOTHER glove.... -.-
Sounds like a bug. I'm surprised you're the first person to mention this
Yeah just a heads up the auction house is all kinds of fucked up right now. I wouldn't buy multiple items. It's likely that transactions are still going through (as always)
Between 200k and 800k is my estimation.I just found this. Not a bad roll, although the resist could be higher. Anyone know how much this is worth?
So when it's giving me the "transaction did not go through" error, it's likely that it actually did go through? I don't suppose there's any harm in my attempting to buy the exact same item multiple times.
Yeah it says something like check your auction log for more info which leads me to believe it's still going through like it used to when we'd get bid failed errors
FlutterPuffs
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well they just opened up gem and ingredient sharing back. They mentioned that those pretty much cripples AH.
I can see why, I sometimes refresh multiple times to possibly get the best deal on buying a gem.
There are random event vendors that sell dyes at 50% off. People stock up when they stumble across these vendors then resell them cheaper than standard vendor price.
BrokenEchelon
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The Alchemist, right outside the spider cave.
Oasis Path->Rotting Cellar too
gimmmick
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Same here, I really want these gloves and I can't buy them out!
Icomp
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I don't have any problem with WD so far, I'm at act 1 inferno. Where are you ingame?
There's also another one in Dalghur Oasis that spawns in a cellar after you kill some Imperial Guards.
Edit: Beaten.
Hell. It's not so much of a problem of a difficulty as it's a problem of playstyle. The skills I like using seem to become less and less effective the further I go. I wanted to cast varied magical attacks from behind an army of minions, not kite with a blowdart.
Icomp
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What skills are you using? I used ZD and Gargantuan up until I got zombie bears. And that's at like level 54 or so.
Spirit walk with mana rune, splinters, bats, gargantuan with boss boost, hex with heal, trying different stuff like zombie wall and grasp in the last slot. Or vision quest with long cooldowns like fetish army. I stopped using dogs in nightmare since they had only like 10% uptime after dying so fast, and everything non-visionquest starts feeling like mana is a real bad issue now especially after playing with Wizard a bit.
bloodforge
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Bought an item on the auction house and still haven't received it after 45min. Ridiculous.
Bitmap Frogs
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I found gargantuan to be useful in Hell, but it required the 20% defense passive. The last rune allows the pet to stun enemies, including bosses. Dogs are trash tho, which makes me sad =/
Mana is a huge issue tho, specially if you rock a 2hander. Until I got enough damage so that the few direbats I can cast before going OOM put a dent on enemies I had to blowdart everything. Booooring.
My main complain is that all the diversity, trickery, the jungle theme, the pets along with some decent CC made WD a riot to play. Until Hell/Inferno T_T
KittenMaster
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I am hoping that the changes to help melee characters will also be beneficial to pets (on top of the Vit scaling fix) since they are also very much melee characters that need to survive.
I'm wondering if the changes to help melee will affect the WD himself, since he's sort of an in-between character.
I'm wondering if the changes to help melee will affect the WD himself, since he's sort of an in-between character.
Man...Ponyland is retarded. I got sick of farming chests and act 2 for garbage, decided to make a ponyland throwing set. less than 1 million gold later and I'm EASILY farming whimsy.
Real gear? 50 million easily.
Ponyland bullshit spec gear? 800k.
Which one can kill higher level mobs? >:|
Real gear? 50 million easily.
Ponyland bullshit spec gear? 800k.
Which one can kill higher level mobs? >:|
You mean Inferno Ponyland?
And also, is it worth it? The mobs there are simply melee, so with a glass cannon build, one could theoretically handle them better than mobs in the second half of Act2/Act3, right?
MarkMan
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Ran Pony Land with my brother on Inferno last night. We both had about 300%+ MF each with NV stacks maxed.
There's a certain area where you can trap the elite mobs if done right (with DH).
So many potentially good drops and lots of cash to be made. Well worth the run.
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There's a certain area where you can trap the elite mobs if done right (with DH).
So many potentially good drops and lots of cash to be made. Well worth the run.
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Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
There are, it's just that the mana costs are prohibitive unless you run with vision quest.
But up to a certain point, everyone is cookie cutter in Inferno.
SafeinSound
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Finally got 60 last night. Gonna do some farming this weekend. Excited to get shit on in Inferno.
shindoku21
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WD isn't all that bad. Every class feels restricted in inferno so when you say it gets worse, it does for all classes. I guess the big disappointment with the WD is that pets aren't viable, making their uniqueness not so unique. Hopefully that class update changes that.
Yes. and act 3 perhaps, act 2 not likely. I've heard some ranged friends who still thinka 2 is harder than a3 so idk. But as a melee that has huge trouble in 3 and 4, it's a blessing. The mobs in whimsy WILL one shot you though barring force armor.You mean Inferno Ponyland?
And also, is it worth it? The mobs there are simply melee, so with a glass cannon build, one could theoretically handle them better than mobs in the second half of Act2/Act3, right?
Yeah I think everyone that runs it inevitably discovers the choke points for ponies, even just on accident. It was more fun with boneweave hauberks though before it got fixed
I just feel like THESE kinds of garbage stats should not be more viable than my legit tanking gear at that kind of thing. Stupid.
jakershaker
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Never saw this before, EU auction house has an error message due to high transaction volume.
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