True, it's amazing vs Reflect Damage. If I switch to a build without a Primary to spam, I'd probably do the same until I get enough Life Steal% (...and Damage) to make Reflect Damage trivial and I can slot Mirror Image or something. Dunno yet.
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True, it's amazing vs Reflect Damage. If I switch to a build without a Primary to spam, I'd probably do the same until I get enough Life Steal% (...and Damage) to make Reflect Damage trivial and I can slot Mirror Image or something. Dunno yet.
ttocs
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Use teleport to get out of there. Usually you can move around and miss most of his attacks but it gets to a point where you can't and that is when teleport is helpful. Keep your armor on too and if you have diamond skin, that will help too for the times you just can't miss the attack.
I'll try shooting for that in terms of stats and see what happens. Out of curiosity what build are you using? Right now I am pretty much all defensive. Current Build
ttocs
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Getting a mortar pack at the beginning of a stage is basically game over for my DH :/ No room to kite
Same here. My wizard can normally kite pretty well, but those damn mortar mobs are relentless. Another group I hate are the invulnerable minions. I had no idea that was even a thing until I unloaded a mana pool on one and it did nothing. Threw me for a loop.
My Monk's current build; Earth Ally spot rotates to Sweeping Wind > Blade Storm or Exploding Palm > Essence Burn or something as I see fit on trying things out. I have ~100 Life per Spirit Spent with Transcendence and I think around 500-ish Life on Hit (though, I can afford to get it to 700ish now by replacing a Gem) with two relatively cheap 600ish DPS Weapons.
Edit: Life on Hit carries a huge premium for weapons. Sockets don't. You can make two Star Amethysts for under a million gold (...) and, for a Dual Wield setup, that's +600 Life on Hit. A better prospect, in my opinion, than paying 2M+ for a similar DPS weapon that naturally has Life on Hit.
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I was tempted to use this since it boosted my vit/dex by a LOT, but the lack of max discipline hurts it. Should still sell for a pretty penny, right?
toastyToast
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A monk would buy that, definitely
At work, but let's see what I remember
Electrocute
Disintegrate
Diamond Skin
Force Armour
Hydra - Lightning
Blizzard - less Arcane
I can't remember each rune, but that's it. Spend most of my time kiting the elites, and so far it's done pretty well with my dps near 4k at... level... 54? Haven't looked at the AH for gear.
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Fenderputty
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I took down the Butcher this morning for the first time with a 5 stack and didn't get a thing. I can beat the butcher now though.
I've found my most profitable farming in act 1 to be the resplendent chest in the cave in the southern highland area. Maybe highland crossing. I don't remember the name. You can pull two packs before going in and guarantee three more once in. It seems like 25% of the time theres a treasure gob too. Clear out the cave and apply magic find gear, rinse and then repeat.
Now I get to see the wall that is act II before the patch comes out.
I've found my most profitable farming in act 1 to be the resplendent chest in the cave in the southern highland area. Maybe highland crossing. I don't remember the name. You can pull two packs before going in and guarantee three more once in. It seems like 25% of the time theres a treasure gob too. Clear out the cave and apply magic find gear, rinse and then repeat.
Now I get to see the wall that is act II before the patch comes out.
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ttocs
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That's what I've been hearing a lot. Maybe switch to arcane orb or some other instant cast that you can use to kite with.
Yeah, I'm learning that in my Hell playthrough. It's nice when I'm in the back and shit is exploding and I don't have to worry, but I spend just as much time running around as well.
Finally fisted the mighty fister, Belial.
When I just concentrated on not getting hit and just hitting him with tentacles in between, he went down like a wuss! He only got to do his channeling move where he sticks his hands in the ground and blows shit up one time.
Suppose Act 3 inferno will now kick my ass, eh?
How much should one have in the way of HP, resists, etc. for Act 3? I'm at 500 resists avg. and 35k HP. DPS fluctuates between 28k and 55k depending on Sharpshooter %. Maybe a few more improvements and I'll be ok?
By the way I found a buyer for my Lacuni Prowlers. Someone kindly took them off my hands for 4.5 mil. Looks like your 400k was downright highway robbery.
When I just concentrated on not getting hit and just hitting him with tentacles in between, he went down like a wuss! He only got to do his channeling move where he sticks his hands in the ground and blows shit up one time.
Suppose Act 3 inferno will now kick my ass, eh?
How much should one have in the way of HP, resists, etc. for Act 3? I'm at 500 resists avg. and 35k HP. DPS fluctuates between 28k and 55k depending on Sharpshooter %. Maybe a few more improvements and I'll be ok?
By the way I found a buyer for my Lacuni Prowlers. Someone kindly took them off my hands for 4.5 mil. Looks like your 400k was downright highway robbery.
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i used multishot as well but i think you can get away without it and use something else ( could try fan of knives for a quick crowd control skill). its also pretty useless in inferno. for preparation I used battle scars in Hell. saved me a lot when i need a quick rehealth and pots/ smokescreen were not avail. but in inferno i moved to back up plan because smoke screen is much more beneficial than health.
I've been seeing them on the AH for some ridiculous prices. +Movement speed on a non-boots piece seems to be an extremely coveted stat.
To be fair, I also got mine before people realized that +25% Movement is damn nice to have when you're kiting :x
I looked into replacing mine with something with more INT (or INT/VIT) but, y'know what? I think I'm perfectly fine where I'm at.
Houston3000
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I just don't AoE everything down anymore, it's not effective enough. Darts, Haunt, and Spirit Barrage make up my offensive capabilities and it works wonders right now in Act 2 Inferno.
Honestly, the strategy changes A LOT for Witch Doctors come Inferno... at least in my case it did. For most of the game pre-Inferno Witch Doctor was about Soul Harvesting everything imaginable and then using Dire Bats, Firebombs, Zombie Dogs, Zombie Bears, Acid Rain, Raid of Frogs, GotD with Rain of Corpses, and whatever else I could AoE with. I really didn't single target anything but there was a lot of area damage, a lot of getting in the fray, getting hit a few times, and then siphoning life and retreating with Spirit Walk. My Gargantuan was also a huge part of play, especially for Champions and bosses.
In Inferno I use Darts and Spirit Barrage which massacres practically every normal mob instantly - taking down an entire group is pretty simple but it's all just shooting each one individually really quick. When it comes to Champion packs it's ALL kiting ALL the time, in that case Haunt is MAJOR in dealing damage over time while I run around with them, I throw out Zombie Walls whenever I can to hold them in place and whittle them down with Darts/SB and save Spirit Walk for when I need to deal with walls/frozen/jailers. I use Horrify to fear whenever possible as well, let them run for a few seconds and then blast them to hell until they come back and I have to continue kiting.
Is there much to it? Wouldn't mind using it for alts so I don't have to replay the game 9 more times just to get each class to inferno.
Rabbit Lord
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Once you hit inferno things change...
I was tempted to use this since it boosted my vit/dex by a LOT, but the lack of max discipline hurts it. Should still sell for a pretty penny, right?
I will definitely buy that!
Play whatever you like, but consensus seems to be that Barbs are the weakest class overall. Not that it stops people from using them well, it's just the way things are right now, to succeed at the high end you need to limit yourself to essentially one build type.
I believe Demon Hunters are maybe the strongest, followed by Wizards (could be reversed, actually), with Monks behind either of those two, and WDs lagging slightly further.
The reason they're so popular is move speed AND IAS. I haven't seen any other bracer with IAS.
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Play a build you enjoy through Hell, because by Inferno, a lot of builds become rendered too weak -- either they get killed too easily or dps too slowly (cause you spend much more time kiting). Disintegrate is awesome fun and I used it all the time for most of NM and Hell, but Arcane Orb soon replaced it simply because it's much more suitable for kiting than a channelled spell.
I pretty much alternate between the two cookie cutter builds, but you can still differentiate it a bit with choice of runes and passives. The only must-haves seem to be:
Venom Hydra
Force Weapon
Force Armor (or I suppose Prismatic if you have the gear, but I'm not there yet at all)
I also think Teleport (Fracture) w/ Illusionist passive is easily the Wizard's best panic button. It's up quite a bit, and the images you spawn seem to be invulnerable (always seem to last full duration, which might get nerfed) giving you good DPS time if the enemies are distracted. I prefer Arcane Orb over Blizz/Shock Pulse spam, but I think Blizz + Piercing Orb is more versatile and safer overall, since Arcane Orb is not as useful when you face shielding or invulnerable elite packs.
Oh no doubt, that much is obvious, and there are clearly builds and skills suited for solo/group play and all that good stuff.
Well, the IAS% is nice too and they were appropriately priced for IAS% Bracers for awhile. Now that Movement Speed is a priority for three classes AND IAS% value went up, the prices skyrocketed.
Off-hand, they're the only Bracers with IAS% (...and, well, only Bracers with +Movement Speed%).
Before I forget it again.
EU Server: I'm selling top notch boots (+6 random properties) for *every* class. Call me Al Bundy!
I have so many Monk boots with dex, vit, all resi + fire/arcane/lighting/poison/cold.
edit: and movement speed, too.
If someone wants a new pair, add: killdashnine#1855 and drop me a message.
EU Server: I'm selling top notch boots (+6 random properties) for *every* class. Call me Al Bundy!
I have so many Monk boots with dex, vit, all resi + fire/arcane/lighting/poison/cold.
edit: and movement speed, too.
If someone wants a new pair, add: killdashnine#1855 and drop me a message.
For the record, hit points are the least effective way to boost Monk survivability, because the Monk heals don't scale to health pool, but they do scale (effectively) to every other defensive stat. I suspect the people who complain the most about Monk survivability on the officials are the people who aren't balancing their armor, resists, and dodge effectively and trying to stack hit points instead. Barbarian heals (mostly) scale to health pool, and they have Vitality-related passives, so stacking health is a much better proposition for them.
IIRC they said 1.03 as well.
I assume they'll flip items with the broken stat so that they have the correct one.
Some good info here, thanks for the post!
Act 3, with my new HP boost, is a breeze.
I also have a ~200 dps 1h weapon with 1k LoH for the damage reflect elites.
exception: invu. minions
Hmmn.. is it really worth it to sacrifice all resists for pure int/vit stat ?
So String of Ears/Lantern/Stormshield pretty much required for Act 3/4? 40ish % Block chance +18-20% melee dmg reduction sounds like a lot. Can I work around that? I don't want to make the same mistake I did in Act I and buy a ton of sidegrades at best, and just farm until I can afford those items. Is it worth buying one of those Stormshields with 20% base block for like 4 million, or should I just wait for the good ones with like 28-30%?
There's a rune with 30% slow that has some use to facilitate kiting (+ buffing at the same time), but you rarely get more than two stacks or so, and if you do it means you're about to be swarmed anyway. I'll probably swap it out for something else. Maybe Haunt, but I'm already running out of Mana if I have to use all skills in an encounter.
Also, I'm sure there'll come a point when you even outgear Inferno, and can run around using Meteors and Explosive Blast. But yeah, when first starting out, you'll probably find yourself end up using the cookie cutter builds to get through it.
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Jesus people do 60k damage already? I haven't played this game in weeks, and now with the Euros
I got to that mark self-buffed on my Wizard fairly easily. Mostly took a monstrously strong blue weapon. :lol I think I spent about ~5-6 million, total. (and to be fair, I got a weapon that should've been ~2 million+ for 500k)
Who knows after the attack speed nerf, though!
RIP all of my gear.
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