They have high survivability, crazy damage and lots of ways to protect themselves with pets/walls etc.
I duo Inferno with my WD friend (I'm a wizard) and he just crushes stuff despite having worse gear then me.
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Diablo III |OT3| Turn On Elective Mode, Get an Authenticator
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They have high survivability, crazy damage and lots of ways to protect themselves with pets/walls etc.
I duo Inferno with my WD friend (I'm a wizard) and he just crushes stuff despite having worse gear then me.
krameriffic
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It's going to play hell with the RMAH release as well. Presumably they want the RMAH online before the PvP patch where they intend to buff the legendaries, but that's gonna piss off everyone who buys a legacy legendary with real money that doesn't get buffed in the update. The alternative is to push back the RMAH until after the PvP patch, which is a minimum of a couple months away.
The game decided to reward me for all the merciless curbstomping:
(of course the very start of Tower of the Damned level 2 had Soul Rippers with mortar, illusionist, fast, jailer. Oh well, who needs valor stacks anyway!)
in before someone says ring is worth 100k
sorijealut
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The game decided to reward me for all the merciless curbstomping:
(of course the very start of Tower of the Damned level 2 had Soul Rippers with mortar, illusionist, fast, jailer. Oh well, who needs valor stacks anyway!)
That is a great pickup!
Trickster
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This is the quote I read on diablofans
Thought it meant they were gonna make new legendaries after the pvp patch that were better than the ones in the game now, and that they wouldn't change the stats for the legendaries currently in the game.
But I get what they mean now, is now I'm very happy
But does this mean that if I find a legendary now, if I don't id them until they buff legendaries, will those items have the buffed stats when I do id them?
For the entire time I've been playing I was using Evocation on the Wizard (15% Cooldown Reduction). But when I was waiting on a friend earlier I was messing about in town and noticed that the cooldowns in fact stay the same. I thought maybe that was a tooltip error so I got my phone out and timed it.
Answer: Evocation doesn't work. Full stop.
Good job Blizzard!
Answer: Evocation doesn't work. Full stop.
Good job Blizzard!
Tell me more about this, my fists of thunder don't stagger champs like they do normal mobs, is there a DMg threshold or something?
He'd be faring a lot worse alone. Their survivability isn't that great, unless you count running away as survivability. Pets die too quickly even on hell, walls aren't useful in open fields (if they worked like the waller's, then maybe).
krameriffic
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The %DR from resists stacks multiplicatively with the %DR from armor. And basically, each point of resist is equal to about 10 points of armor. Most barbarians and monks seem to have to aim for about 8-9k armor and 800-900 resists to be viable in inferno. This combination alone yields over 90% net damage reduction, which then stacks multiplicatively again with the base 30% reduction that monks and barbs get for being melee classes, and then with any % reductions from your items, and THEN with your shield's block or any other mechanics that I might have left out.
So yeah, barbarians end up mitigating 95% or more of the damage they take just to barely survive in inferno.
sorijealut
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No way this is true!!! My Bul-Katho Ring CRIESSSSSSSS WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
FieryBalrog
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The best way to encourage build diversity is to nerf inferno so it's actually doable. Right now it's so overtuned it throws out the "viable, not optimal" philosophy out the window.
Also, the two biggest issues with itemization is weapon dps scaling being out of control, and not enough unique mods on legendaries. They got some, they need more. They addressed the latter and it's a pretty easy fix, the former is going to require a more thorough redesign and probably wouldnt get anywhere before the expansion pack.
Also, the two biggest issues with itemization is weapon dps scaling being out of control, and not enough unique mods on legendaries. They got some, they need more. They addressed the latter and it's a pretty easy fix, the former is going to require a more thorough redesign and probably wouldnt get anywhere before the expansion pack.
That's not quite the word I would use.
Red Blaster
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They're fixing items?
Nice
Nice
KittenMaster
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Maybe pre-buff Legendaries will become antiquated collector's items you can sell for a premium once buffed Legendaries become more common.
It's not that the mode isn't viable, it's that some characters and most skills are completely useless on inferno.
Infinite_Daremo
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EU Auction house be fucked. Warning on the login screen. I hope i get my items i paid for now.
Some champs are immune to certain types of cc, but with Thunderclap you can still stun lock a few of them
So You think that weapon drops with 150 dps are alright for act 1 of Inferno?
And this. Like 80% of skills.
BTW there should be one more skill slot and every char should have good escape tool. Monk has Dash that was working fine several months ago in beta, but they nerf its range when there is no target near cursor ...
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Ps. I think i've just lost 100k on AH, i sent to my stash and its not on my balance.
Yep, AH is completely fucked up at this moment on EU ...
I've only found one in over 110 hours of playtime
Yesterday however I was powering a few friends through normal with 5 stacks of NV, one of them had 2 legendaries drop within 10 minutes, and another got one off of a boss :lol
Infinite_Daremo
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Welcome to the club.
They've acknowledged its broke but will we get our items once they fix it?
Yep, bunch of friends have lost items today. Be careful guys.
No, I was using Force Armor, like the guy you quoted. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#aRXQlO!dfY!cbaYbY that is the exact build I used for phase one, switching out Blizzard for Force Weapon in the second phase.
That said, Rakanoth is an asshole. Keeps one shotting me with his stupid teleport strike. Stacking up hp to 50k and 60% dmg reduction and I still can't take the hit. Had this been pre Force Armor nerf I'd have taken him down first try.
First proper wall I've hit, think I need to backtrack a bit and farm up for... something. What's the best place to farm in Inferno? Butcher rarely drops anything good, even with 5 Neph buffs, as the act 1 loot is more often than not 51-59 leveled items, but I can't think of any good spot to farm in act 2 or act 3, as everything is just too hard and tedious.krameriffic
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I've only found one in over 110 hours of playtime
Yep. I've got 2 60s into act 2 inferno, 100+ total hours and I haven't found a single legendary. If they were worth a shit, I might be mad. Instead I just add it to the long list of things in my life that demonstrate my unluckiness.
krameriffic
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That said, Rakanoth is an asshole. Keeps one shotting me with his stupid teleport strike. Stacking up hp to 50k and 60% dmg reduction and I still can't take the hit. Had this been pre Force Armor nerf I'd have taken him down first try.
I saw a nifty Rakanoth solo build for wizards that used the ancient guardian rune for familiar in order to absorb his teleport strike. It seems that wizards can't stack enough health and mitigation to be able to survive it even with force armor, but this build along with some super cheesy kiting works. The familiar can absorb a single hit every 6 seconds as long as you are under 35% health, so you deliberately stay under that point any dodge everything he does (minions and the blue things he shoots at you) and let the familiar save you.
As for farming as a wizard, watch this guy:
http://www.twitch.tv/stayawhileandlisten
He explains a lot of farming spots and wizard farming methods. It can be useful to watch.
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This drives me crazy.
BigJonsson
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Beat the Butcher on Hell
4k dps
Zombie Bears is epic!
Current build is
Splinter darts
Locusts with the disease rune
Spirit walk with healing rune
Soul harvest with the healing rune
Zombie bears
Fetish army summon with fire blowing rune
Damage reduction passive
Mana increase passive
Health globe + mana passive
4k dps
Zombie Bears is epic!
Current build is
Splinter darts
Locusts with the disease rune
Spirit walk with healing rune
Soul harvest with the healing rune
Zombie bears
Fetish army summon with fire blowing rune
Damage reduction passive
Mana increase passive
Health globe + mana passive
Nope, you can still drag out skill cards.
Also, for the love of god, please give us 3 skill loadouts we can load and save.
I think turning back on Elective mode locks the toolbar, so you cannot drag things out. Also, why are people mouse clicking skills? That is the only way you can drag them out.
Really? I thought it locked it.
And having some savable skill sets would be great.
Trickster
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I think that alright, absolutely. As long as we're talking about magic and rare weapons at least. Those are supposed to be completely random in their stats.
So even if you get a weapon on inferno, it should be possible for that weapon to have shitty affixes that simply match horribly and makes for a shit item that no one wants, that's how diablo have always been, and should always be.
The game would be boring if every item you found was useful.
I'm not mouse clicking skills, I'm clicking the ground near the bar on occasion. That's the problem.I think turning back on Elective mode locks the toolbar, so you cannot drag things out. Also, why are people mouse clicking skills? That is the only way you can drag them out.
These are the only legendary item I ever found, and its probably the worst you could possibly get. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/lut-socks
Loot sucks indeed.
I've defeated these. I've found Shadow Power + Gloom to be superior to Smoke Screen for these purposes. I use nether tentacles as my primary DPS and have impale + impact as a way to keep them at distance. I also have +11% movespeed boots.
That would be the single most important tip I can give any DH/WD/Wiz pushing through inferno -- be absolutely sure to have movement speed boots. It is crucial.
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Belial's second form keeps killing me.
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