Switftlame
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because reliable constant damage is better its not like u should be dying to trash or having problems with it ss seems like a wasted slot
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Diablo III |OT4| Antiques Roadshow: Sanctuary Edition
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I'm kind of interested in the math. If the alternative is to take a passive that gives you constant 15% or 20% bonus damage. But 5 seconds of SS gives you 15% more chance to crit. And depending on your crit damage amount from items, could outpace a straight 15% bonus damage over time. Especially if your initial 2 attacks in every fight is a guaranteed crit to everything in front of you. So the real question is what percent crit damage are we talking?
Edit- I can see the point about diminishing returns though. 5 seconds to gain 15% crit chance when you're sitting at 40% is a lower return than 5 seconds to gain 15% crit chance when you're sitting at 10%.
So I guess the question I have is exactly what percent crit damage and what percent crit chance from items do you need before SS loses effectiveness compared to other passives?
Switftlame
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15% bonus damage on your huge crits that u do almost 1 out of 2 hits already
michaelius
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Well YOU don't need it but those who don't have that much Crit chance will though.
Sharpshooter is pointless in most builds after Nether Tentacles nerf - all other elemental arrows are too fast to benefit from it in same way NT did.
That's why I run both Cull the Weak and Steady Aim.
Yeah, but most people can't give up Tactical Advantage, I bet people reading your posts thought they should choose CtW over Steady Aim which is not a good idea.
Here's the thing though. If you're running at sub levels of 10% crit or lower, once a fight starts, SS loses all of it's damage. Every time you crit at 100% or lower, you're going to only get one crit every 5 seconds or so because your innate crit is so low, you're going to crit at a low % like 20%, and reset SS again, sending you down to 5%. While I agree that it's great for a beginning of a fight, once a fight drags on for more than 20 seconds, SS loses out to Steady Aim, and it loses out to Cull The Weak, because both of these passives are always doing damage. So basically you gain 100% increased damage on two hits-four hits depending on IAS and what right click you're using at the beginning of a fight, and occasionally gain 100% increased damage on one hit every 5-8 seconds. This doesn't discount the fact that regardless of running SS, you're still going to crit occasionally, which is overlapping with SS.
Lightning Ball?
Kinky John
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Blizzard should give Athene some tips on video editing.
I run Sharpshooter, Steady Aim, and Archery. I haven't even started stacking crit chance because I feel like I crit so frequently (low attack speed xbow might be the reason?). I have I think 350% crit dmg (with SS) and I've never even considered running cull the weak. I don't use tactical advantage because it's unnecessary IMO. Once I got good enough, I lost no survivability getting rid of that passive.
Is there a 3rd party DPS meter? I searched for one right after release but no luck. I would like to track my DPS through a few runs or something and then compare.
edit: I guess running cull the weak or an alternative passive is nice if you have a high base crit chance because it actually will up the damage of your crit strikes. SS doesn't do this.
Is there a 3rd party DPS meter? I searched for one right after release but no luck. I would like to track my DPS through a few runs or something and then compare.
edit: I guess running cull the weak or an alternative passive is nice if you have a high base crit chance because it actually will up the damage of your crit strikes. SS doesn't do this.
fizzelopeguss
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Ok, who's the cunt at blizzard who made wall spamming mobs go absolutely apeshit in this patch?
It is a bit ridiculous now. Was in a full group in the skinny paths in Leoric's Mansion and had at one point elite pack, wall, player with desecrated ground, wall, me with desecrated ground, wall, another player with desecrated ground, wall. Because it was so skinny, we were boxed into desecration death.
Basically wiped us out in a couple seconds.
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Deleted member 17706
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I think general ability use from champion and rare packs has gone up quite a bit since the patch. Mobs are constantly spamming stuff like Waller, Freeze, Mortar, etc. now.
Also, Blizzard really needs to fix the issue where you can get stuck inside of a wall. It's bullshit and is effectively a longer, more crippling Jailer when it happens.
Rentahamster
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I'm having a hard time generating the initial fury
With the build I'm using, you have to rely on starting the fight with some fury due to the unforgiving passive, and using warcry to give you a boost when you need it. For builds that don't use unforgiving, you need to meet a mob, warcry, battle rage, overpower, then wait till you get hit a little bit so that you gain fury from taking damage - enough fury to be able to use sprint, and then gain more fury. It's a little tricky to get started, which is why I just went with the Unforgiving passive in place of a defensive passive.
Otherwise, you could probably just replace Overpower with Leap. See a mob, warcry, then leap at it, then you should have enough fury for a battle rage and then sprint.
Mr. Luchador
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I'd like to see these two fight for real. With swords.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
Woo, looted a lacuni prowlers finally...long after they're hot shit.
Someone said to put up any junk rare ring for $3 and that it would sell. To test this, I picked one of my many junk rare rings and put it up for $3 with no max bid. Almost immediately it got a bid of $3.
...Did I make a mistake?
Wouldn't almost anyone be better off with any number of rings with a main stat + 6% IAS?
...Did I make a mistake?
Wouldn't almost anyone be better off with any number of rings with a main stat + 6% IAS?
The mobs also shield more, fear more, arcane orbs more, despite the fact they were supposed to do it less
A nightmare, horde, arcane molten will rape my barb within seconds if wotb is down
You're in luck, it's getting fixed tomorrow:
http://www.diablofans.com/news/1259-patch-103a-tomorrow-official-patch-notes/
no more easy zk lvling
Hooray, uniques will drop loot instead of being fancy damage dealing 1.03 chests.
They confirmed the loot drops were low last week.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5911501949#6
Someone said to put up any junk rare ring for $3 and that it would sell. To test this, I picked one of my many junk rare rings and put it up for $3 with no max bid. Almost immediately it got a bid of $3.
...Did I make a mistake?
Wouldn't almost anyone be better off with any number of rings with a main stat + 6% IAS?
Yes you did make a mistake. But it also depends on how much you're valuing gold/money conversion at I guess. But more likely that you made a mistake. Max crit on a ring is 4.5% I believe.
He says "we agree they're low" not "we agree they're bugged". I guess the conspiracy theories can remain.
Well...hopefully the free market will do it's work, and more bids will come in, I guess.
Seeing as they were lower than expected, one would assume they're "bugged" and they're also making a patch (1.0.2b) to adjust these drop rates, would also assume they're "bugged"
Pretty clear something happened to the act 3 drops, likely their shitty developers hit a wrong key, probably intentionally.
It has never been bugged. What was only unknown was what the previous drop rates were before the current distribution that includes ilvl63 at 8%.
Annoying to melee, but it's pretty awesome for ranged. It's the same as various other structures in the game that block mortar.
I definitely think there needs to be a ladder. Make it a hardcore, solo-only ladder. No auction house. Level-restrict players to quests in the same manner that they're currently level-restricted when joining public games. Give out ranking points for doing quests and killing elites and bosses. Then, rank people into different classes (diamond, plat, gold, etc) based on percentiles of ranking points within the same class (ie no advantage of getting into plat just because you play DH instead of Barb).
Give people a few months to progress and retry. Top score becomes their rank for the season. Such a restrictive setup also means that beating Act IV Inferno is nearly impossible, so the potential skill ceiling is very high.
cpp_is_king
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For some reason I make all my money on ridiculous bow drops. Just got this one.
Put it up for a buyout of 30m. Other bows with similar dps and socket go for 20m, but with life steal, I figured this one was worth quite a bit more.
Put it up for a buyout of 30m. Other bows with similar dps and socket go for 20m, but with life steal, I figured this one was worth quite a bit more.
anyone want to help me do this tonight?CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Yay!
Said every botter in the land, for their characters can now go much longer without having to do costly repairs
cpp_is_king
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cpp_is_king
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Does this mean Act 3 now becomes better than Act 2?
What is supposed to be "appropriate loot"? I'm thinking it means the usual cannot be affected by MF 2 magic items crap. I never farmed unique monsters in act 3 anyway.
That comes with 1.03b at a later date. Uniques are the guys with purple names. They used to drop better stuff, not just gold and whites.
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