That what I had when I beat the game and I only have 700 now and farm Act 3 routinely and rarely dies. It's all about how you balance the character.
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That what I had when I beat the game and I only have 700 now and farm Act 3 routinely and rarely dies. It's all about how you balance the character.
LoH + Crit, vit & primary stat will sell for 5mil+ , you could probably get bids over 10mil.
Loh + single stat market has been dead for like a week now, 700 dps weapons barely sell unless they are under 1mil now. 800 dps + primary stat are getting just as bad.
If it doesn't have a socket, crit, or vitality as well then the demand isn't there.
sorijealut
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I still don't believe it, lol. That seems painfully low for Act 4. I've got 900 resistances and I feel like I cannot shed anymore. I can farm Act 3 pretty well, too. I die occasionally from bullshit damage (arcane...) and bad circumstances (frozen twice in quick succession while standing on top of desecrator stuff) What's your LOH?
No, I haven't spent a dime nor have I botted or spent much time flipping items.
Crit damage + LoH on the same weapon raises the value a lot, 5 mil doesn't sound particularly overpriced compared to what I've seen people paying due to the demand.
It's just LoH and a single stat that has low value right now as it is one of the easiest rolls to get (relative to a perfect Loh + 2 stats + socket + crit) and isn't the must have build anymore.
sorijealut
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I don't remember...about 600-700 back then and about 1200 now though I'll probably lose some soon for more crit damage.
You just need to play a different style. I use mystic ally as a mini tank, and stay behind him with deadly reach.
Like I said, it's all about balance. In single player, you just need to kill elites as fast as you can. You have skills like serenity, blind flash and breath of heaven to keep you alive and you're really only vulnerable between the cooldown periods. The faster you kill them, the less cooldown you'll need.
In multiplayer it's not even an issue. You will hardly find a public game without a barb and warcry allows you to even stand in acid and fire.
Fenderputty
Banned
It's that big guy that hits with them. It's good to know I don't have to fight another like that.
I'll keep that in mind about slowly progressing too and changing my builds to a dodge build at the end.
Thanks for all the advice!
Using the ally as a mini tank is an interesting idea.
I know about that in single player, killing them as fast as you can. What's your dps? Because unless you're rocking about 40k you're not going to kill that many of them while serenity is up, especially if they're molten or something. I know your'e vulnerable between cool down periods, but those DOTs hurt like hell now, so you're REALLY vulnerable, and arcane is still absolute bullshit damage.
I do find plenty of games with a barb, though there are a lot without. Even with a barb though you can't just stand in molten, usually. I could before whatever happened with the patch, but now I definitely can't.
I suppose you are using deadly reach, though, which counteracts a lot of the DOTs. Thunderclap is awesome for some things (like dps and getting back LOH, etc), but bad for others (teleports you right on top of the damned enemy, so you get hit by whatever DOT is around no matter what).
Fenderputty
Banned
On the flip side, I've used thunderclap to teleport me out of a mess too. The rune definitely takes some getting used to though. Especially when switching builds.
In regards to LOH as it is today, I can't be bothered to log in and check AH for latest prices which are actually selling but just browsing d2jsp this is what I see.
Low 700 dps fist, vitality, 500 Loh and an open socket. 2mil BIN.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63722091&f=153&o=0
Only gonna get cheaper still, especially when a lot of others don't even get offers on d2jsp.
Low 700 dps fist, vitality, 500 Loh and an open socket. 2mil BIN.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63722091&f=153&o=0
Only gonna get cheaper still, especially when a lot of others don't even get offers on d2jsp.
No you absolutely don't need 40K dps. Even now I only have 32K after breath of heaven, though I can easily swap the 2 weapon slots from LOH gems to crit damage.
I mean, look at this guy, he's using a different build but only have 6xx resist, 4.7K armor and 26K dps and he can kill everything.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Nmitty/featured
Yeah it goes both ways. It's really a pain in the ass for some things and really awesome for some others. You can kind of make it work with you for the DOTs by holding shift (or whatever root button you have) and moving your mouse nearly off screen and clicking there on no monster at all. Then you'll punch in a direction instead of specifically at something. If something moves there though you'll teleport, and you have to make sure you're not doing just the AOE damage instead of both, too.
It's also kind of nice with arcane mobs, since you can kind of back away and then right when you notice it's passed you can click on them and instantly be fighting them. It's kind of a pecking strategy, but it requires you really know where you'll land and in what direction, so you need to get used to it.
He's using the same build as me except I have a shield and I use the healing rune with serenity. Yeah I suppose you can have 600 resists, but you've got to be really really good with your kiting technique and god forbid you not have any area to do it in. I can't help but wonder what an arcane sentry would do to that guy. Most of the mobs he showed were pretty easy, though. I can annihilate them pretty well, except the molten fire chain ones he showed. But it looked like he left a nice breadcrumb trail of gloves and had his kiting technique down really well.
I'd also like to see him doing the end of Act 4, which is what I was talking about. Those morlu incinerators can really fuck you up pretty well with lower resists, and there's really not much running from them. They'll carpet bomb an entire area.
Psychotext
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I feel a bit stupid, I just spent 500k crafting the hell version of the staff of herding. The gold would have been so much better spent on gear (I can still buy upgrades for that sort of amount) but I just couldn't stop myself.
Ho-hum.
Ho-hum.
Well, with no main stat, and the vit, loh and ias they seem to be around 3 million, but I don't know what the lps and physical resist would add to this price.
Fenderputty
Banned
Anyone care to help me out with pricing this amulet? Tried looking on the Ah, but don't know if the lps and socket adds anything to the other stats that are present.
It's a nice general Ammy, but the LOH is pretty low. It's kind of like icing on that cake I guess. Ammy's get 300+ LOH pretty easy.
The IAS is nice, but that one socket to add dex / int / strg for damage isn't very huge.
I'm gonna guess not much. I sniped mine for a good deal, but my ammy is 7% IAS, 300+ LOH, 25-52 DMG, 35 Arcane
I woldn't even look at it for 3 million.
I agree with not looking at it for 3 million, but my searches showed that to be about the minimum price similar ones were going for. Thus leading me to ask about it here.
And another thing, with amulets easily getting 300+ loh, I seem to have the worst luck. I can never find an amulet with more than 100 something, lol. It's almost as if blizzard has flagged all my drops to contain no more than that as a total for that particular stat.
Switftlame
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I'm starting to think that it might be worthwhile for me to switch to 1h+shield since the ~120k dps I would have with shield merely means that champs take a few second longer while the added protection just guarantees I never die except while MF switching.
(stats with archon, enchantress, familiar, magic weapon (blood magic rune), glass cannon)
I'm not particularly efficient in terms of EHP as my vit is quite low compared to my damage reduction. EHP isn't that important though if I get some leech in addition to what I get from magic weapon rune.
mind adding me swiftlame#1342 i liked to speak wizardry
I'm EU; added you anyway but I imagine you are NA
Fenderputty
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I would look for IAS 7%, 100 Vit and LOH for my starters on that AMMY. Check the lowest price for those specs and go from there. The LPS is another stat that's nice, but not something someone will want enough to incerase the value much I think.
The game is wierd. I guess it's the RNG, but I can never get a good helmet. The one pefect roll I've had was on a 400 DPS weapon. It had 500 LOH, Native Crit %, extra socket, dex etc etc. What a waste of great stats.
Fenderputty
Banned
Ok, I need a PC on this. I have not been able to find a price for a high dex version of this and I am not sure if this is an amulet that is favored for dex. Thanks!
Wow ... that's an awesome amulet. Even if you're a monk, the intel just means resists.
Woo-Fu
Banned
Took me over 400 hours to find a set piece and it was a crappy daibo. It was like spending your life searching for Atlantis and finally finding the spot off Manhattan where they dump the garbage.
Ok, I need a PC on this. I have not been able to find a price for a high dex version of this and I am not sure if this is an amulet that is favored for dex. Thanks!
It's worth somewhere between 4 and 5 million or so. I bought mine with less dex, but I had a socket that put me at around the same amount (though I may have got a deal on the socketed version). Mine also has my monk's resistance of choice, and 4.5% chance to crit. Other than that, mine's mostly the same (well, they're all mostly the same). I didn't check right now, but I'd say price it closer to 4 million to sell it quickly and closer to 5 if you want to wait it out a bit.
Switftlame
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Thanks, I'll go ahead and make it a little overpriced as I am going out of town and hotel internet sucks so it does not need to move quick.
Fenderputty
Banned
Switched back to an evasion build and he hit me one time.
I could definitely tell my build needs to "shift" into a more DPS like build. But man o man is that dodge build useful at times.
Thanks again!
10 INT = 1 all resist, for everyone
Found my first set item. Around 90 hours to find my first one.
Tal Rasha's set bonuses are probably the worse set bonus I've seen this game.
Dat 3% elemental damage!
lol
ye im na
I am in Asia but on NA, I will add you swiftlame#1342
Hey guys I need some good feedback, since rumor has it commodity's are going up tomorrow on the real money auction house. It is finally time for me to start tracking the economy. I was hoping to perhaps get some last minute ideas before tomorrow.
The plan right now is to track all commodity's that are level 60 (Inferno mats, Level 60 Blacksmith and Jeweler plans, all gems above flawless square) in both gold and real money.
~~~Current systems in place~~~
- Comparing the two auction houses, it will tell you how much cheaper an item is on one or the other. Example: Helm of command is 250% cheaper on gold auction house at current gold > $ exchange rate
- Graph for each currency for every item tracked, can be changed from 3 days, 1 week, 2 week, all time etc etc.
- Market average for all the above time ranges also.
- Subscribing to the price of any items gold/$ value and getting either a website notification or an email when the average price goes above or below what you requested.
- A quick reference if item value is up/down (Up and down arrows showing percent difference)
So if anyone has any other ideas please share! Currently I am only tracking commodity's that people are interested in..
I want to track all items in the future (weapons etc) but due to the random nature of stats, I really do not have a good idea on how to do that. The best idea right now is after legendary items get buffed, start tracking them then. And have 3 versions of every legendary item (bad, good, great) and track each price of those separately.
Example a string of ears with 10-13% and otherwise bad stats would be Bad
Good would be 13-16
Great 16-19
And maybe a 4th category for "perfect"
The plan right now is to track all commodity's that are level 60 (Inferno mats, Level 60 Blacksmith and Jeweler plans, all gems above flawless square) in both gold and real money.
~~~Current systems in place~~~
- Comparing the two auction houses, it will tell you how much cheaper an item is on one or the other. Example: Helm of command is 250% cheaper on gold auction house at current gold > $ exchange rate
- Graph for each currency for every item tracked, can be changed from 3 days, 1 week, 2 week, all time etc etc.
- Market average for all the above time ranges also.
- Subscribing to the price of any items gold/$ value and getting either a website notification or an email when the average price goes above or below what you requested.
- A quick reference if item value is up/down (Up and down arrows showing percent difference)
So if anyone has any other ideas please share! Currently I am only tracking commodity's that people are interested in..
I want to track all items in the future (weapons etc) but due to the random nature of stats, I really do not have a good idea on how to do that. The best idea right now is after legendary items get buffed, start tracking them then. And have 3 versions of every legendary item (bad, good, great) and track each price of those separately.
Example a string of ears with 10-13% and otherwise bad stats would be Bad
Good would be 13-16
Great 16-19
And maybe a 4th category for "perfect"
cpp_is_king
Member
You have all this actually working? Pm if you need help, have a lot of experience doing similar stuff on other games.
Anyway, make sure to take into account AH transaction fees when comparing items between the 2 AHs
Patch tomorrow, maintenance from 5 - 10 AM PST:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6036676877
Looks like they're fixing the "bug" where you can watch auctions by bidding over your max amount of gold. And I JUST started using that. Damn...
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6036676877
Looks like they're fixing the "bug" where you can watch auctions by bidding over your max amount of gold. And I JUST started using that. Damn...
sorijealut
Member
What?! I did not even know this, how do I do it.
Well it won't do much good now, but:
If you want to "watch" an item without bidding on it, you can bid an amount of gold higher than your current amount (but under the buyout amount if the item has a BO). It will error out, bad transaction. Exit in and out of the AH (or go from RMAH back to gold) then you'll see your bad bid as your bid, but the current bid will be the actual current bid.
This video details it early on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLnzNYwpwDc&t=0m23s
sorijealut
Member
OH I've been doing that! haha I didn't even notice it was unnatural...
I used this to monitor many weapons >
ranging from 2h ~ 30m.I will miss it.
sorijealut
Member
This. Almost all my friends stopped playing.
It makes me feel like a loser sometimes when I play alone (confessions) lolol.
I haven't been following much for the last couple of weeks, do we have any sort of idea at all on when we might start getting patches addressing major issues people have with the game. Don't want to drag this out again, but I've tried playing a few times this week and after 200 hours I think I'm just pretty much done with the game until they at least start addressing end-game issues. Am I realistically done until an expansion comes out? If so I'm debating cashing out on the RMAH and being done with it.
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