Add losing 50% armor off the Monk passive and Monks will not even get near reflect damage elites lol
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Add losing 50% armor off the Monk passive and Monks will not even get near reflect damage elites lol
Fenderputty
Banned
Is reflect DMG not considered in the 25% rediction inferno is supposed to be getting?
UnluckyKate
Member
Monk are the only one getting so much nerf.
Sure, build diversity... buff active skills... yeah but we still have no dps multiplicators as other classes.
So we go for semi tank build.
" No ! " says blizzard, Monks should not go for tank !
So what are we supposed to do ?
Spent 10x more than barb for the same dps ? And just be walking debuff machines ?
Monks see a net gain from their passives. Yes they get the worse treatment among all classes in this patch but even after losing the ability to dodge reflect damage the game is still made easier (for the 3rd time).
Breath of Heaven - Blazing Wrath
Mantra of Conviction
Blinding Flash - Faith in the Light
Deadly Reach - Foresight
Guilding Light
Combination Strike
If you're still doing a tank build after 1.0.4, you're doing it wrong.
In fact, if you have the top gears, you can even make a Tempest Rush build that farm nearly as fast as the WW barbs.
We'll see how it affect things after 1.0.5, but as it stands monks aren't doing so bad compared to witch doctors and demon hunters.
Most likely the 1.06 patch they will nerf OWE. When that drops monks will have to get all resist gear (Dex + AR which is Demon Hunter territory) which are 2x-100x more expensive than current monk gear!
They can't nerf OWE before because they've designed monks so badly that monks need it just to survive. After 1.0.5 OWE isn't essential any more because their way to "fix" things is to nerf the game so much that monks won't need OWE to survive.
When they finally nerf OWE I believe they'll either do another round of nerf or buff other monk skills. Blizzard made a lot of mistakes but they are not that stupid to just nerf it without any kind of re-balance.
In the long run it is also healthier for the class because OWE being an essential passive for monks is a disadvantage. It gives you lots of resists sure but when the other classes are looking at 6 prop rares, they have 5 properties for other stuffs while monks only have 4. If monks didn't need OWE they can potentially be a lot more powerful.
In fact, I'm working on dropping OWE in 1.0.5 so I can free it up for other passives. Getting there!
Fenderputty
Banned
They said they're taking their time with OWE so as not to mess with current monk gear. Not sure how, but they've said it both times a nerf was brought up.
turnbuckle
Member
ouch
really wish blizzard would balance more on making mobs more difficult/balanced than nerfing classes. I would like things to be more difficult while still playing in a way that makes the game enjoyable to me.
They will nerf OWE when high dex/All resist gear will be at affordable prices. The way it is now, it's so expensive because those are the Demon Hunter's primary stats and is the only reason why those gear cost so much.
I've invested a lot already into end-game legendary arcane gear and have no plans to change them. This is why I am so dependent on OWE.
I've invested a lot already into end-game legendary arcane gear and have no plans to change them. This is why I am so dependent on OWE.
NOOOOO !
You know, I never was against nerfing the proc rate. What I find ridiculous is by how much it's been reduced. 0.25 makes melee wizards kinda overpowered, but 0.125 makes them too vulnerable. They should make it 0.175.
IAS gear prices for wizard are gonna skyrocket I guess.
The Omega Man
Member
yeah, me too look at my Monk
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/OmegaMan-1511/hero/1642708
I spent weeks crafting and getting a nice combination of arcane + all res, my gear and the gear from 90% of Monks will be rendered useless if they do a mayor nerf to OwE, they know, that have stated it twice already, in my case I will be losing A LOT of gold if Blizzards fucks it up.
That's true, this are not final, if something incredibly broken or nerfed is discovered, ig people whine enough, it can be re-adjusted for when the real patch deploys.
Fenderputty
Banned
That would still affect the monks that hven't geared with ALL RES only but still stack. Something they said they wanted to avoid.
At least I hope they follow through with what they're saying.
Sohter.Nura
Member
They won't nerf OWE until they come up with a solution that won't render monk gear useless.
Monks were really poorly designed from the get go and they are still one of the most underpowered classes, so I'm not really afraid right now.
Looking at my build, Seize the Initiative grants me a 10% damage reduction as armor. With 25% damage reduction from monsters, I might just drop Seize the Initiative all together and get Sixth Sense, with my current gear it offers me a 11% dodge chance increase, and I can probably get it up to 15% when I have all the gear I want.
Monks were really poorly designed from the get go and they are still one of the most underpowered classes, so I'm not really afraid right now.
Looking at my build, Seize the Initiative grants me a 10% damage reduction as armor. With 25% damage reduction from monsters, I might just drop Seize the Initiative all together and get Sixth Sense, with my current gear it offers me a 11% dodge chance increase, and I can probably get it up to 15% when I have all the gear I want.
The Omega Man
Member
let us know, I don't feel like testing for know, but I am interested to see if this patch is good, drop wise and buff/nerf wise
Better keep playing twice as long as you intended, might be a streak.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
I've been playing D3 since launch. I feel like I should know what "PTR" stands for.
Expected. Not a huge deal if your gear is already good, but if it isn't, you'll probably be farming easier acts for a while.
Expected. Not a huge deal if your gear is already good, but if it isn't, you'll probably be farming easier acts for a while.
public test realm
basically a client/server w/ the patch so they can test it before releasing it to everyone
Man i'm happy for the other classes but Monks and Witch Doctors are the classes they're scared to touch because they seem like they'll have TOO much potential the way blizzard "fixes" things.It's really disappointing to me because those are they 2 classes that i was drawn to the most.I guess in the next six months they'll work something out....depressing.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Ah, I see.
If you got the cash or a legit item of equal worth I will be happy to trade with a fellow gaffer.
It's funny because the group I was in... EVERYONE got a Legendary during the run. Ivory Tower, Echoing Fury and this. Granted both of them were like higher P level than me but still... it was bizzarro land.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Still no set piece. You lucky bastard!
Only my second one. The first one was a pre-patch Chantodo weapon. It was hot garbage so really this is my REAL first set piece in the game.
Man I think I am done with the game until patch 1.05. I am Paragon LVL15 and haven't had a legit drop in so lo.....
*Green Chest armor drops in Act 3*
*Identifies object*
..............................
This fucking game... I swear to god... it knows things.
LMAO! My dude hit big! sell that shit and get billion gold diablo tree (as moldran would say)
You're a millionaire! Congrats bro.
I swear to god your theory is 100% accurate.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
PvP Strings in the PTR patch!
Will be too occupied with WoW and other things to give much love to D3 for awhile though. At the very latest, the OP will get some attention when the PvP patch does come. If I have spare time, I'll work on it after 1.05 is out. It's just not a huge priority for me anymore though.
Will be too occupied with WoW and other things to give much love to D3 for awhile though. At the very latest, the OP will get some attention when the PvP patch does come. If I have spare time, I'll work on it after 1.05 is out. It's just not a huge priority for me anymore though.
turnbuckle
Member
Means he looted it from a corpse rather than purchased it
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
So I found a 6 prop wand plan and decided to try it out. Crafted 5 wands and almost rolled something godly.
Now I have 5 mil less than I did 10 minutes ago.
Now I have 5 mil less than I did 10 minutes ago.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Ew another shitty legendary.
Wormwood Staff...so garbage.
Wormwood Staff...so garbage.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
It is amongst active characters, as I understand. Monks are a close second....
worth anything? US server.
I was just looking at those last night. I passed on a similar DPS one with strength and LL for 1.2M, so probably somewhere in the 500K range for that one. Legendary stats don't scale down value as much as non-legendary items. That's only a 200K mace if it was rare with the same stats.
That weapon adds .21 attack speed to the other weapon he's holding when dual wielding so a 1.4 speed would be 1.61 without a socket though every weapon is worth way less.
Where are you all getting the PTR client?
Its just linking me to the Battle net download page for the normal D3 launcher download, not a PTR client.
For example, here is the WoW client section:
And here is Diablo 3's client section:
I don't see a PTR client, and I think there should be one. Im pretty sure the one displayed is just the normal game client.
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