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Diablo III |OT5| Finally out of Beta
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spindoctor
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Hell is where you generally need to start caring about defensive stats. Before that you can go all out offensive with your skills and passives but in hell you're going to have to tone it back a bit (for example, using the armor shout instead of the dps shout). A shield isn't necessary for hell, but you should acquire one along the way for some of the tougher fights you'll face.
As for today's changes, they sound pretty decent. I was hoping one AH usability change they'd bring in was to show the item stats by hovering over it's name rather than just the small icon we have to use now. Surely this is a pretty obvious change that people would like and Blizz should be aware of right? Maybe in the next pass.
The paragon system is pretty cool. I expect people who have put in 400 hours or something already would be a little peeved that they get nothing for all that effort. Good for someone like me who hasn't spent a whole lot of time grinding out levels. I also just killed Azmodan in inferno for the first time, feeling pretty good about that. Hopefully Act 4 won't pose too many problems and I can finally finish the game soon.
Peaks, as in elites with stupid affix combinations?
aliencowz7
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Even outside of elites, there were certain areas in each act that were far harder then the rest of the act based simply off of the type of monsters found there. It wasn't even close to being a smooth curve.
Pre nerf wasps, licker dudes, snake dudes, overhead mace smash things compared to the generic fodder in the rest of the areas was just really jarring and frustrating at times. Mix that with bad affix combos and its just a mess.
PVP is months away.
Right, I forgot about... A lot. Add Terror Demons, Phase Beasts, Morlu Incinerators, Fallen Angels, Heralds of Pestilence and possibly more.
I guess I played a Barbarian for too long to remember how annoying those can be. I never got far enough into Inferno with my WD to run into those problems, deprived of the pets that would otherwise distract them.
aliencowz7
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Yeah, I haven't really been super active playing as I don't want to burn myself out before they get a chance to patch a bunch of stuff but when I speak of inferno difficulty I mostly mean close to launch.
It was just a mess and given a choice between that kind of difficulty and how d2 handled it with hell I will choose the latter easily. A fully fixed inferno to have an intuitive difficulty curve I am down for but still wish it wasn't effectively forced by locking items and stuff away there instead of just being a optional challenge for the people that want it.
It was just a mess and given a choice between that kind of difficulty and how d2 handled it with hell I will choose the latter easily. A fully fixed inferno to have an intuitive difficulty curve I am down for but still wish it wasn't effectively forced by locking items and stuff away there instead of just being a optional challenge for the people that want it.
I got a name change Dahbomb, I thought you were a little brighter than this, lol.
The eventual phasing out of MF and GF is probably going to hurt the gold farmers a bit huh... I mean, eventually if they lower baseline gold drops and shift the weight of it to the paragon bonuses that you have to actually work for, thats going to be annoying for botters. Yes lawd!
That explains alot. I saw Neki and I was like "Wasnt his GAF name different than his D3 characters name?". Now I know Im not crazy.
That explains alot. I saw Neki and I was like "Wasnt his GAF name different than his D3 characters name?". Now I know Im not crazy.
Yeah, so instead of having no chance in hell to sell your hoarded gold at a superficially inflated price in a market flooded with ridiculous amounts of excess supply you're gonna have a window of time to actually sell it at a lower price that people will actually pay. How is that a bad thing exactly?
Not sure if troll.... or serious.
I'm sure they'll find a place to auto-farm XP. Who knows how long it will take for MF&GF to disappear completely? The transition period for players is going to help botters a lot, too. Until then, Goldskin is going to be even more valuable than it would have been if MF&GF were here to stay. Or is the cap going to be implemented before the stats are phased out? If so, disregard that.
It'll be practically irrelevant for PvP. We're talking about a few thousand HP and ~10% Damage when comparing 0 PL to 100 PL.
Though, to be fair, they said 0 -> 1 PL would be "about the EXP from 59 -> 60" and they were off by about a factor of 3 so who knows if the stat gain from it is actually the same as a regular level (+3 Primary, +2 Vitality, +1 Offstats).
The problem is that the increased difficulty for people like me needs some kind of reward to justify it. But, if those rewards are good enough, it becomes essentially mandatory to do that harder difficulty to reap those rewards. :/ We need some kind of super hard mode with loot that is restricted to that mode and some vanity items or something, I guess. It's kind of a strange, fine line to get this all balanced right. Because of that, I'm fine with things being lower in difficulty since that appeals to more people, really.
-Pyromaniac-
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It's gonna be absolutely ridiculous seeing Blizz trying to balance this game for PvP lol. I'm glad I'll probably be done by then.
PvP balance just can't happen. I mean, maybe they can pull it off but I'm not even sure it's worth the hassle.
aliencowz7
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Its looking like tomorrow. Supposedly maintenance was extended 2 hours.
Yeah, I mean, PvE is in the games blood and at its core. I have huge doubts about them being able to obtain reasonable balance. Total balance is a pipe dream no large game has ever achieved unless its something homogenized like an FPS or something. As long as they dont throw the meat of the game (PvE) under the fucking bus trying to 'fix' PvP Ill be ok with it. If they WoW this shit by ruining classes PvE ability because of something unpleasant that happens in a fucking shoebox PvP arena I will absolutely rage.
ive mad like 3 bucks in the last 2 weeks. what kind of stuff did you sell
D:
-Pyromaniac-
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lol you could make a shitton from that, congrats man. I've been lucky enough to have tons of luck with the rmah with less than that. Believe.
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SHITTTTTTT
Yay!! I'm coming back diablo!
-Pyromaniac-
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Just got done reading the notes. So many damn little changes that will make the game so much better. Way too many to even quote the good little stuff.
Man I spent so much gold on my MF set 
Easily over 100 million:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cebo-1447/hero/8804440
Might just cash them out on RMAH now while its value is highest, especially since I don't see myself playing this game much when GW2 comes out, even with all the great 1.04 changes.
Easily over 100 million:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cebo-1447/hero/8804440
Might just cash them out on RMAH now while its value is highest, especially since I don't see myself playing this game much when GW2 comes out, even with all the great 1.04 changes.
Glorious!
Fenderputty
Banned
Just read the paragon changes. What an amazing patch. I'll have to wait a week to play it, but it's a nice present waiting for my return. Looking forward to some progression the most really.
Definity
Member
Sold a 600 dps 1 hand with 700 loh and some armor (can't remember the stats). I'm sure if I waited longer I could have gotten more for it but I just wanted to sell something again.
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Awesome! Patch is here tomorrow. I've got my monk/demon hunter at the VOTA check point ready to go.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
lmao, it's about time.
A large portion of the early problems of D3 could have been prevented if they hadn't made it so easy to goblin/res.chest farm. Those things needed to be completely random and always require effort to spawn.
Hm, so that's what that was all about.
Oh thank Jeebus for this.
Aw, fuck me. Welp, there's the WW barb nerf, although not many people chose to use the overpower variant so it's not a bid deal to many players.
Then again...
-Pyromaniac-
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that's what I'm saying. TONS of little things that make a big difference when added up here.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Yep. Most of the DH tanks out there are officially useless now.
Edit: This is bad news for one of my friends...doesn't seem fair.
I gob farm while watching baseball (so about 20 per night there is a game) I don't go to Road to Alcarnus at all though I always go to Ancient path I wonder if that one will be there still lol
Yep seems they reeled in pretty much every high high proc chance ability in the game. Stacking caltrops for procs was pretty wild. I never tried a full melee build, but Ill bet that the crazy procs you could get out of stacking those caltrops was a corner stone of those melee builds. I think they want the outrageous proc stuff out there gone because of the upcoming legendary processes. Kinda sad to see the overpower rune go though. That one got me through some tough times on my barb back when I was still sword and board.
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