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Diablo III |OT5| Finally out of Beta
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Syphon Filter
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-Pyromaniac-
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don't fight it....
WE'RE PLAYING THIS TOGETHER
BUT IT WAS STILL FAIRWELL
AND MAYBE WE'LL COME BACK
TO DIABLO, WHO CAN TELL?
I GUESS THERE IS BLIZZARD TO BLAME
WE'RE LEAVING GROUND (LEAVING GROUND)
WILL THINGS EVER BE THE SAME AGAIN
IT'S THE FIIIINAL COUNTDOWNNN
OH IT LOADS MY FRIEND CAPS LOCK
Ridiculous prices on squared rubys right now (red gems) If you are a packrat like myself and have Mules with hundreds of those things just rotting, right now is the time.
I reckon the prices will drop after the patch brings back the masses and they all start farming again making them less scarce.
I reckon the prices will drop after the patch brings back the masses and they all start farming again making them less scarce.
Gaylord Sweetwood
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Disappointing to see Jay reiterate his disdain for a ladder. Joining a ladder is a choice, you lose nothing if you choose not to.
And it's a shame that he sees the ladder as nothing more than a e-peen leveling fest, when the biggest reason people clamored for ladder resets was to reset the economy.
D3 with no economy resets is going to butcher any shot at this game having staying power.
And it's a shame that he sees the ladder as nothing more than a e-peen leveling fest, when the biggest reason people clamored for ladder resets was to reset the economy.
D3 with no economy resets is going to butcher any shot at this game having staying power.
michaelius
Banned
Speaking about economy - have they considered what throwing xxx % of gold find to every character will do to prices ?
I think you have to many x there... I doubt most of the players will ever hit triple digits from the paragon as I figure to get to level 34 paragon even with the best exp boosting armor will take at least 500 hours of pure grinding. The people who farm over and over will maybe hit it, but the people who don't devote a ton of time each day won't hit it for a long long time. I could be wrong and the exp curve on it could be fairly nice and people level up it at a decent pace. but I fully expect a player who farms act 3 8 hours a day to take at least a year to get to level 100 paragon.
which is kind of the point.... an end game thing you are always working towards that isn't loot. if it was easy to level up people would just get to level 100 of it and then have just loot again... at the very least I expect it to be impossible to hit level 100 of paragon before PVP hits, even if you were grinding 24/7 from the time the patch was live until PVP hit.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
When did he do this?
http://www.diablofans.com/news/1322-patch-104-interview-with-jay-wilson-and-andrew-chambers/
I assume it's this interview as the last question deals with ladders.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Lots of quality of life changes in this patch that were a long time coming. As in, seriously, there should have been a patch between now and the last one that fixed about half the things that are in these notes.
Also some stealth
nerfs to stuff, but not a big deal compared to all the buffs elsewhere.
I'll go over my highlights that don't include the major things like legendaries or the paragon system.
Should have been in before:
Simple quality of life stuff that's great, but wasn't pressing:
This was a problem?
-Jailer can now no longer appear with Knockback, Nightmarish, or Vortex
Also kinda sad that the Cemetery rare pack now only has a 20% chance to spawn instead of 50%, but that was probably deserved.
Also some stealth
nerfs to stuff, but not a big deal compared to all the buffs elsewhere.I'll go over my highlights that don't include the major things like legendaries or the paragon system.
Should have been in before:
Simple quality of life stuff that's great, but wasn't pressing:
This was a problem?
-Jailer can now no longer appear with Knockback, Nightmarish, or Vortex
Also kinda sad that the Cemetery rare pack now only has a 20% chance to spawn instead of 50%, but that was probably deserved.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Ahh, thanks.
lmao, NOW they get it? I could have told them that years ago...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465944
It's good to see that they're realizing just how stupid the "I need to self gimp myself" mentality is that a lot of players are forced to take due to questionable design decisions. (and this doesn't pertain only to magic find, you guys have heard me talk about this millions of times before I don't want to sound like a broken record...)
I disagree about this point. There is a simple solution that would have solved most everything in a neat package:
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Man, fuck that. Having MF not affect chests and destructibles is bullshit. If you don't want players swapping, make it so that swapping is discouraged, ffs.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
The destructibles and chests and chests should at least be affected by NV, even if not by base MF.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Hmm, thinking about what I can replace overpower with...Rend sounds good.
For DH with the old Nat's set, trail of cinders vault might be good. I hope my DH tank friend didn't sell his set yet, lolz.
For DH with the old Nat's set, trail of cinders vault might be good. I hope my DH tank friend didn't sell his set yet, lolz.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
While it looks bad, there's always a chance that something else can rise up to compensate. I dunno if the change to the Brooding passive is gonna be enough, though...
But anyway, we'll see.
Anyone?
I just checked out that interview on diablofans and got pleasantly surprised that they seem to be interested in doing seasons, that is, resets. Those usualy get better and better with time the more the game is balanced etc.
Edit: To clarify. If you have items that give you 5% chance to stun, when you use a skill with a 0.25 proc coefficient, the chance for each hit with that skill to stun an opponent is 0.05*0.25 = 0.0125 = 1.25%
It means the chance (like 0.5 proc coeff is 50% chance) that a hit with this particular skill will trigger secondary effects such as life on hit.
Edit: To clarify. If you have items that give you 5% chance to stun, when you use a skill with a 0.25 proc coefficient, the chance for each hit with that skill to stun an opponent is 0.05*0.25 = 0.0125 = 1.25%
UnluckyKate
Member
Yeah poor them they won't crit much.. But still tank more than anyone
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I quit right after 1.03 was introduced because it did basically nothing to fix the sad state of the game.
Can't wait to get back in, finally WD pets are getting a fix. I love pet classes and the new spirit barrage is looking to be a killer ;D
I just wish they fixed the debuffs/crowd control spells, they barely work on anything beyond yard trash.
Can't wait to get back in, finally WD pets are getting a fix. I love pet classes and the new spirit barrage is looking to be a killer ;D
I just wish they fixed the debuffs/crowd control spells, they barely work on anything beyond yard trash.
michaelius
Banned
I don't know exactly but i think if you have 0.5 proc coefficient it means you are getting 400 out of 800 LoH per hit.
BTW I'm looking for ideas what to change for zombie dogs:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/pl/calculator/witch-doctor#afURdT!acb!acabYY
Depends on your build, I think that if you're WWing you don't really need any crowd control moves since WW will take care of most of the mobs, whatever is left is usually an elite that you need high dmg fast attack single target dps moves which Bash and Frenzy excel at.
I was the initial herald of this build, and have since abandoned it. It has been presistehently nerfed; first the ss nerf (obviously) then the nerf to nether tentacles reduced its life leech, and now this. Ive since become a monk, as the pure glass cannon style does not suit my approach.
I still feel like they didn't really touch on Monk enough - while I think Monk's are viable and the general changes to the game mechanics will end up helping monks out a lot (some of those champion packs were the worst) - the class still has some serious design issues - heck, those issues are stuff they admit openly - like our reliance on One with Everything.
If the developers think that Monks -need- that passive to function, doesn't that sort of mean something?
If the developers think that Monks -need- that passive to function, doesn't that sort of mean something?
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
So 1.04 hits tonight? Guess I'll fire up Diablo III for the first time in over a month and see if they managed to put the fun back in. This patch does sound promising. The gold and item drops put back into destructibles, the smoothing out of the difficulty curve in inferno, more magic and rare drops from mobs, the improving of legendaries, skill rebalancing, lower repair costs, adjustments to co-op play, the Paragon leveling system, all of these are things that I feel the game greatly needed.
It's hard to believe that Diablo III is finally live, and after waiting a decade for it, I own the game but haven't played it at all in over a month. That just doesn't seem like it should be so. Hopefully 1.04 is a big step towards correcting that issue.
It's hard to believe that Diablo III is finally live, and after waiting a decade for it, I own the game but haven't played it at all in over a month. That just doesn't seem like it should be so. Hopefully 1.04 is a big step towards correcting that issue.
michaelius
Banned
Mixed aproach is best for DH imho
Circa 300 resists 25-30k life plus shadow power with gloom
BigBlue1974
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Agreed. Gives you the ability to still take a hit or two and you'll still be able to deal really good damage out.
It is a bummer that they aren't at the very least having your NV stacks apply against chests and breakables. I don't even bother with them anymore which is kinda sad, but I just don't see the point.
I'm definitely interested to see how long it takes to add these Paragon levels. I am thinking now that it's not like the good MF equipment is just going to die out that quickly as it'll be a long grind to earn those Paragon levels.
I've never really focused that much on leveling as I just hit the levels as I played. Is Act 3 playthroughs the way to go for experience for the Paragon levels?
For certain WD specs, Rain of Toads was pretty much the best primary skill. With the changes, I'm going to guess Phantasm might be ultimately better with Spider Queen to keep the mana regen going.
Please don't get my class nerfed~
I see people saying this, but I wouldn't have such high expectations. It won't put 'the fun' back in for those who are bored of the game, but it will put some of the fun back in to be sure. We shouldn't look at this as a long term solution, especially paragon levels. They're meant to buy time until Blizzard can get a real endgame solution. Paragon levels are an easy thing to program in a matter of weeks and artificially boost the longevity of the game. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as developing real solutions takes time, but don't expect the patch to be Diablo III 2.0. It is, after all, only Diablo III 1.0.4.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Well for me the biggest issue was the gear check that Inferno is. I hit a wall where I couldn't progress any further because I needed better gear. But I couldn't buy said gear from the AH because I didn't have the gold, and it was going to take FAR too long to farm said gold due to me dying all the time to inferno champion packs. Like a ridiculous amount of time to farm the gold. But I also couldn't just play to farm for items either because I simply could not afford to put any MF% into my gear (my gear was subpar as it was already). That coupled with the fact of horrible item drops to begin with, I quickly realized that farming for gold and buying from the AH was my best alternative, and it was a terrible one.
Paragon levels will do a LOT to remedy this. Now I can earn more MF and GF completely independent of gear. So I can focus on just getting gear that improves my abilities to allow me to progress further and not worry about MF or GF because my Paragon level and Neph Valor should be enough. And repair costs going down will help tremendously with my gold farming for the AH. Repair costs were literally killing my fun factor. That might mean I'm an average player who can't stay alive in Inferno, but I accept that, lol.
Basically I'm a casual player who needed the game dumbed down a bit in order to have fun playing it, and thankfully Blizzard is obliging.
If I understand correctly, Euro servers go down early morning and come back around the afternoon.
Nope, they go down early evening (20:00) and come back quite early (around 06:00) instead.
Edit: Lol, you are right, yeah. Fucking PDT.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
The patch is surprisingly tiny.
I think they say patch 1.1 will be diablo 2.0
Actually no, they -- if by 'they' you mean Blizzard -- said pretty much exactly what I said: we will have to wait until well after 1.1 for a proper endgame.
Well for me the biggest issue was the gear check that Inferno is. I hit a wall where I couldn't progress any further because I needed better gear. But I couldn't buy said gear from the AH because I didn't have the gold, and it was going to take FAR too long to farm said gold due to me dying all the time to inferno champion packs. Like a ridiculous amount of time to farm the gold. But I also couldn't just play to farm for items either because I simply could not afford to put any MF% into my gear (my gear was subpar as it was already). That coupled with the fact of horrible item drops to begin with, I quickly realized that farming for gold and buying from the AH was my best alternative, and it was a terrible one.
Paragon levels will do a LOT to remedy this. Now I can earn more MF and GF completely independent of gear. So I can focus on just getting gear that improves my abilities to allow me to progress further and not worry about MF or GF because my Paragon level and Neph Valor should be enough. And repair costs going down will help tremendously with my gold farming for the AH. Repair costs were literally killing my fun factor. That might mean I'm an average player who can't stay alive in Inferno, but I accept that, lol.
Basically I'm a casual player who needed the game dumbed down a bit in order to have fun playing it, and thankfully Blizzard is obliging.
Hey, knock yourself out, I'm excited about the patch too you know
. Well, except for the whole "nerf twister procs for melee wizards even though the build wasn't overpowered" issue. I really should hope the rest is going to get easier, because were it not the case I would actually come off worse from this patch. Worst comes to worst, I'll just play my rerolls until melee wizard builds are made more viable again. Got a lvl 47 barb needing some love.I'm just saying that it is a step in the right direction, a really good step even, but still just a step. This doesn't address some fundamental problems players have had. I'm hopeful 1.1.X will fix that though. Blizzard seems eager to please these days.
It seems like most of these were because of the new Legendary procs that they put in (e.g., Charm, spell procs, +100% IAS, etc.). Rather than making those new procs ridiculously low to compensate for certain high ppm skills, they tweaked those skills instead. Personally, I think that's the right approach, even if it did impact builds I liked/used (and, honestly, some are still viable).
The high coefficients didn't really matter before this patch as well. I mean, we're talking about Life on Hit and on-crit resource generation as pretty much it. There are a lot more procs to consider now and having those with a good base chance (e.g., 20-50%, some up to 90-100%) is overall better than those having a 5-10% chance to balance out the few skills with overly high average ppm.
depends on your main stat, weapon dps, attack speed and critical hit chance
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