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[XXL]

They asked ChatGPT.

Let's ask FoxMcChief about the PS5 Pro.

PS5 Pro will still be only 30fps. It’ll just have a more consistent locked 4k resolution.

It amazes me that people here think that the PS5 Pro will magically make games perform to their expectations. When all it will do is likely make the current options slightly better. Like a more stable 4k/30 fps quality mode and 1440p/60 fps performance mode. I just don’t trust the console developers optimization skills at this point. Most are pretty garbage.

And that’s why we get games like FF7 Rebirth with its messy graphical modes. Neither one is amazing or optimized. Fantastic game, but man does it have some inconsistencies. That’s why I think it will be par for the course this generation.

And I laugh at the idea that folk around here think that a PS5 Pro will fix their precious 60 fps modes. Not going to happen.

The chatbot was way more accurate, if we're being honest.

 

[NeonGhost]

Very curious about the 4k with vrr unlocked framerate

 

[FoxMcChief]

Let's ask FoxMcChief about the PS5 Pro.






The chatbot was way more accurate, if we're being honest.

You found old posts where my predictions were wrong. I have no problem admitting I was wrong.

Meanwhile you still try to push a stupid PS5 Pro > PC agenda.

 

[LordOcidax]

Zoom 3X the comparison

 

[AteBitWolf]

Show me Returnal with all the bells and whistles

 

[saintjules]

Show me Returnal with all the bells and whistles

Clarity and playing that game with potential 120fps would be godlike.

 

[proandrad]

If they were showing this kind of upgrade for TLOU II, I don't think people would be complaining.

No people would complain. Did you forget where you are?

 

[DeepEnigma]

No people would complain. Did you forget where you are?

 

[mayham2199]

I hear the game is about forgiveness, so it's likely intentional, but it just felt like such a sign of the times for me and was an immediate turnoff.

It's funny because I love Die Hard especially #3. So I started the movie up and I forgot how racist SLJ is towards Willis\White people in the movie. All I could think is if this was released today people would call it woke trash but in 1995 no one cared.

 

[thatJohann]

It’s like an ugly sharpening filter

 

[Ulysses 31]

It's funny because I love Die Hard especially #3. So I started the movie up and I forgot how racist SLJ is towards Willis\White people in the movie. All I could think is if this was released today people would call it woke trash but in 1995 no one cared.

Why would it be considered woke trash when the movie points out anti-white racism is also racism?

If it didn't, I can see the anti-woke having issues with that part of the movie.

 

[Luipadre]

It’s like an ugly sharpening filter

So crisp and clean image quality called ugly sharpening filter now, got it.

 

[King Dazzar]

Great to see PSSR is doing well on its early initial implementation. Brings a lot of detail to the image. It'll be interesting to see what improvements there are on existing unlocked VRR modes too in terms of frame rates.

 

[Fake]

Still using this game?

Move that hell out.

 

[Radical_3d]

So crisp and clean image quality called ugly sharpening filter now, got it.

Now you have ammo for that 5000 series reveal.

 

[adamsapple]

lol......you are much better at summarizing analysis than providing your own.

 

[iamvin22]

So do they have hardware now or is it still raw video comparison

Pretty sure they don't have hardware. Just allowed to take photage in a closed scenario.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Digital Foundry is eating with this Pro coverage. Hopefully Sony can supply them an early unit because there's tons of games to cover Oliver already touched on a few he'd like to see.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Digital Foundry is eating with this Pro coverage. Hopefully Sony can supply them an early unit because there's tons of games to cover Oliver already touched on a few he'd like to see.

Remember, "why do we need a Pro?"

 

[blastprocessor]

Very curious about the 4k with vrr unlocked framerate

Shame that wasn't tested to see what the framerate is..

 

[FrankWza]

Digital Foundry is eating with this Pro coverage. Hopefully Sony can supply them an early unit because there's tons of games to cover Oliver already touched on a few he'd like to see.

Let them wait in line like everyone else

 

[ReBurn]

It looks ok to me

 

[Bartski]

So the PRO mode looks better than Quality and runs locked 60?

 

[NeonGhost]

Can the pro mode be set to unlocked framerate on the new mode ?

 

[ChiefDada]

So the PRO mode looks better than Quality and runs locked 60?

Detail wise, it's not even close Pro is ahead. Image stability wise, it has deficiencies vs quality mode. Hopefully it gets better on that front by release. Overall very good.

 

[mayham2199]

Why would it be considered woke trash when the movie points out anti-white racism is also racism?

If it didn't, I can see the anti-woke having issues with that part of the movie.

Hmm not sure if they did. I do think Bruce Willis said it was racist at one point. Either way I still think it would be considered woke these days.

 

[Bojji]

So is cyberpunk.

Last time I checked, in 2020 there wasn't TLoU2 on PC with next gen assets and high quality ray tracing. There is a generational difference between CP on PS4 and on PC.

TLoU2 finally got PS5 "next gen" version but it still looked like PS4 release with few tweaks. Same is true here, only thing that changed is image quality.

 

[Kangx]

The difference is more pronounce of screen. Interesting.

According to this pic. It's like going from sub 1080p res to 4k.

 

[XXL]

Last time I checked, in 2020 there wasn't TLoU2 on PC with next gen assets and high quality ray tracing. There is a generational difference between CP on PS4 and on PC.

TLoU2 finally got PS5 "next gen" version but it still looked like PS4 release with few tweaks. Same is true here, only thing that changed is image quality.

1 out of the top 10 GPUs on Steam (in Sept 2024) could even run the PS5 Pro version of this game.

 

[NickFire]

These comparisons are looking real nice on the pro.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Digital Foundry is eating with this Pro coverage. Hopefully Sony can supply them an early unit because there's tons of games to cover Oliver already touched on a few he'd like to see.

Remember, "why do we need a Pro?"

It's funny because they were laughing at the Pro just 2 weeks ago and now AGAIN, they are eating their words just like when the PS5 was announced with less Tflops than Series X.

They should know better than doubting Mark Cerny.

The difference is more pronounce of screen. Interesting.

According to this pic. It's like going from sub 1080p res to 4k.

At this point i'm just gonna wait for the Pro and play Genshin Impact on PS5 until november, lmao.

 

[mckmas8808]

Awful game, no matter how pretty it is now

Amazing game that looks prettier and runs better now.

 

[Gaiff]

1 out of the top 10 GPUs on Steam (in Sept 2024) could even run the PS5 Pro version of this game.

So around 13 million, which is close to the total number of PS4 Pros sold and will likely be in the ballpark of PS5 Pros at least (probably more since the PS5 Pro is more expensive and comes out a year later than the PS4 Pro).

 

[brenobnfm]

Very curious about the 4k with vrr unlocked framerate

If they capped a less demanding PSSR Pro mode at 60, i'd bet the 4k unlocked might roam in the 40~50 no man's land

 

[proandrad]

Last time I checked, in 2020 there wasn't TLoU2 on PC with next gen assets and high quality ray tracing. There is a generational difference between CP on PS4 and on PC.

The video card needed to run full ray tracing on cyberpunk cost as much as the PS5 pro. Now I was all for a $1,000+ PS5 Pro, but people lost their minds over $700. For the $700 price the only thing you should expect is no more vaseline screen performance modes. Any game that can show performance mode IQ match the regular PS5 quality mode IQ will suffice.

 

[recursive]

It's definitely clearer thanks to the DL Upscaler technique finally hitting consoles. I've been using DLSS/DLAA and never looked back

PS5 Pro looks good. But not $700+ (and replacing your existing console) good.

I'd rather wait for a new generation.

Many pc gamers spend $1500+ every new GPU generation to get 30 more fps which is what the pro is offering here. This negative narrative about cost/value proposition of the pro is ridiculous.

BTW, I am also one of the pc gamers spending 1500 on a new gpu every generation. I also have my ps5 pro preordered.

 

[Rosoboy19]

The more powerful gpu will definitely help but it seems like establishing/improving PSSR is going to be the main focus for Sony with the Pro. If they can get it close to DLSS before the PS6 launches that will be huge for them. It’s already better than FSR, although the extra sharpening it adds is pretty obvious to me in this particular video. I’m sure that will vary based on the game.

 

[NeonGhost]

If they capped a less demanding PSSR Pro mode at 60, i'd bet the 4k unlocked might roam in the 40~50 no man's land

That’s what it is now on the base ps5

 

[angrod14]

Abby looking beefy AF at 4K@60. Dem gains with the Pro. DAY ONE, baby.

 

[brenobnfm]

It’s like an ugly sharpening filter

I'm all for people saying this is too expensive and not worth it, but saying things like this just makes you look envious.

That’s what it is now on the base ps5

Oh never checked how it runs unlocked, but i guess you can add around 45% more performance then if what Mark Cerny said is precise, might get an unstable 60fps with slightly worse IQ than Pro Mode, not worth it.

 

[ChiefDada]

If they capped a less demanding PSSR Pro mode at 60, i'd bet the 4k unlocked might roam in the 40~50 no man's land

That Pro Mode likely goes significantly higher than 60fps uncapped as TLOU Pt. 1 was way more demanding and was regularly in the 80s in performance mode. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it hit 100fps+ uncapped on average.

 

[Alebrije]

Think the plus of the PRO Will have more impact on big screens , talking about 75 -100 inches ones , the smaller the screen the less You Will see difference vs PS5.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It’s like an ugly sharpening filter

I'm all for people saying this is too expensive and not worth it, but saying things like this just makes you look envious.

Yep. Clown show.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Nah man. Abby's testosterone is much clearer on the leftmost pic.

Yup. You can see his adams apple more.

 

[brenobnfm]

That Pro Mode likely goes significantly higher than 60fps uncapped as TLOU Pt. 1 was way more demanding and was regularly in the 80s in performance mode. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it hit 100fps+ uncapped on average.

I think he was referring to fidelity mode.

 

[adamsapple]

Remember, "why do we need a Pro?"

oh they're gonna milk the shit out of coverage for it, expect individual videos almost daily till the end of the year.

Rich needs to justify the christmas bonus from IGN.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Think the plus of the PRO Will have more impact on big screens , talking about 75 -100 inches ones , the smaller the screen the less You Will see difference vs PS5.

What does that even mean?

It depends on the viewing distance

If you sit 20 cm away you will see the difference even on a 20" monitor

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

This is why they delayed the pc version of TLOU 2 so they can push this game on ps5 pro lol.

 

[Senua]

So is cyberpunk.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Aint worth $700

But upgrading from an RX6700 to a RTX4070 is?