nikolino840
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Yoshida says that for the same experience and quality you must have at least a 2000$ pc...
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[Digital Foundry] Final Fantasy 16 - PlayStation 5 - Tech Review
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
MidGenRefresh
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I believe some outlets had problems with not enough of what racists refer to as “people of color” in the game.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
Aren’t both Star Wars and FF forcing some form of ray tracing on their 60fps modes ?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This happens on both systems. Star Wars.
midasmulligan
Member
Damn, they’ve really sh*t the bed on performance w/my two most anticipated releases. First JS and now this. So 720p is the new 4k, eh? We’re targeting Switch performance on the ps5? Ffs
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Fine with me
MidGenRefresh
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Why do we even care? 60FPS mode is here, let’s celebrate!
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I skipped that game, so I had no idea. But yes, I will clarify that 720p shouldn’t be thing for either PS5 or Xbox Series X. I’d expect it from Series S(is)
GymWolf
Gold Member
I'm not gonna play a perf mode that is not close to being locked and that go down to 720p in 2023, fuck that.
But from your answer i guess the dogshit blur is still there.
Oh well...
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cash_longfellow
Member
Idk…I played through the entirety of the demo twice in performance mode and everything felt and looked good to me, aside from the occasional bigger drops in frame rate. I’m also not a huge resolution guy normally, so that could be it as well. I just definitely don’t see 720p anywhere though, at least not in the Switch type sense
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’m fine with 30 fps if we get a good resolution with good visual effects.
PeteBull
Member
0 surprise, its ps5 exclusive so no excuses of last gen /weak pc specs bringing it down, we simply need ps5pr0 to play this game properlly in 60fps and decent res(which in this case would probably be 1080p native upscaled by fsr to 4k ).
Many of us keep forgetting but 500$ closed boxes that launched back in nov 2020 dont have unlimited power.
Many of us keep forgetting but 500$ closed boxes that launched back in nov 2020 dont have unlimited power.
MidGenRefresh
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Zathalus
Member
Which is of course bullshit. A $900 PC will perform better.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Which is why RT should be optional and not forced in these modes.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Sure, terrible options are better than nothing i guess.Well at least they gave you…. OPTIONS.
I love how japanese devs always get a free pass for their shitty performances.
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PeteBull
Member
Good isnt very clear, and can mean very different things for different ppl, gotta be specific here, for example ue5 demo ran at 1440p30fps.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Nah
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FWIW in the video John says the shadow implementation shows characteristics but he could not rule it as being ray traced shadows 100%.
Zathalus
Member
12400f, 32GB RAM, 16GB 6800XT, 1TB Nvme, all can be built for ~$900.
Damn right it will perform better.
Kacho
Gold Member
Yep, sad that we're already begging for Pro consoles but it's time if you care about performance.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I think anything above 1080p is good. But that’s just me. But I think 1440p that’s gets reworked in a good way(clean IQ) at 30 fps is all I need for this generation of consoles.
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Stars Wars use FSR 2 which is much better in scaling quality (and also more demanding in fps).
Getting to such low resolutions makes sense when using FSR 2, but not when using FSR 1. PS: 720p FSR 2 equates to ~1200-1300p FSR1 on performance demand.
There is a good chance that RT is not being used
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Chukhopops
Member
Yeah there’s something deeply meta about this game having a Performance mode that you should absolutely not use in order to have the most enjoyable experience.Well at least they gave you…. OPTIONS.
And it shows it’s only a matter of time before Performance modes on consoles disappear from most new AAA games.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
GymWolf
Gold Member
So how do you explain other games looking on par or better and having locked 60 modes? (With one of them being a big open world game)
Ff16 is not the right game to push pro consoles (and i'm the first one who want a pro console), it just show how lazy some devs are.
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Nankatsu
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Reading the conclusions with more attention, I don't understand what's happening with performance mode, specially after playing the demo.
Sure, during it I could see some framedrops here and there, but for the most part it was crispy clean and performed well.
Anyway, I'm gonna start the game on Performance Mode with VRR enabled like I did in the demo.
Sure, during it I could see some framedrops here and there, but for the most part it was crispy clean and performed well.
Anyway, I'm gonna start the game on Performance Mode with VRR enabled like I did in the demo.
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MidGenRefresh
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There’s a 60FPS option. They gave you options so why are you complaining?
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Good luck with all of that
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I’ll be playing in Performance mode. The Quality mode motion blur was way too overwhelming for me. Despite the lower res, Performance mode looked cleaner in high motion scenes(i.e. combat).
winjer
Gold Member
To get good frame rates and good image quality. Both, at the same time.
TheKremlinBossMan
Banned
It was also moving in the revenge trailer before that showcase so we knew it was coming.Square has added movement to the vegetation, in the demo a few months ago it was totally static even with this hurricane wind, good for them
Games of Today
Member
720p, OUchhhhhh
GymWolf
Gold Member
Forspoken has rtx shadows but that was another engine i think.
GHG
Member
Well it's been abundantly clear that these consoles aren't powerful enough for a while now, as if it wasn't already apparent to those of us who already had PS5/series X equivalent hardware on PC (my previous card before I upgraded was a 2070 Super and it really wasn't fun trying to push 4k on that card towards the end of last year, even with DLSS).
Just give us the pro consoles so that those who want clean image quality along with decent framerates on console exclusives can have it.
I'll play in quality mode for now and if I like the game enough I'll go again at 60fps 4k when the PC version releases. Just don't be epic exclusive ffs.
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Zathalus
Member
What? Getting it for that price? Easily enough, the 6800XT is like $500 while the CPU can be found for $140. Everything else is cheap as well.
Performance shouldn't be a problem either, 16GB VRAM and a GPU that is 60-70% faster then the PS5 should handle anything thrown at it.
A $2000 PC scales up to 4080 levels which will effortlessly run this game
Coloress_Kafka
Member
So basically you get 60fps in combat and jank when walking around. I’ll take the resolution hit for a game that plays better.
GreyHand23
Member
Has nothing to do with laziness and calling devs lazy needs to stop. Most likely it’s a limitation of their engine which appears to be a modified version of the FF14 engine. It’s not really designed for this type of game.
