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The picture isnt of the ultra because the cpu isnt @ 88%, its just the regular 4k/60
Reading is hard for some people. Maybe he'll go back and read it after repeating this nonsense enough times.
The picture isnt of the ultra because the cpu isnt @ 88%, its just the regular 4k/60
Watson?If the PS4 is supercharged PC architecture according to Cerny, what would that make Scorpio?
Will it be compatible with PSVR though? Which is going across platforms soon..So that means Scorpio will definitely not be able to use Oculus Rift. It doesn't have enough USB ports. If we go by the exploded render from Microsoft, it also seems to be missing the front USB of Xbox One S.
Reading is hard for some people. Maybe he'll go back and read it after repeating this nonsense enough times.
Seriously. TBH, if anyone was expected to spew salt around here I thought it would be a few people that were hoping for Zen or Vega. But the salt is being spewed by non Xbox fans, which is just douchebaggery in my book.lol dude. We exclusively have the most powerful console ever made with no exclusives. That's exclusive to us xbox fans.
And that's what's getting me. The post historys tell the whole story. It's so predictable. I was wrong about it having Zen, and apparently about it being Vega (which still surprises me), and I'm not going around bitter about it. I'm going to honor a game bet I lost with chobel, and I'm using the avatar that has been picked for me cause I lost an avatar bet also. This is about fun. People are taking it way too damn serious haha.
What does "hardware level" mean?Yes they are. Having DX12 run on a hardware level on the GPU isn't done on any gpu yet. There's going to be more articles coming going deeper into the customizations to the CPU and GPU
Dude did you read the article stating they added Dynamic Weather to the build as well?
Forza Motorsport. 4K, 60fps, Xbox One quality settings with 4K assets. GPU utilisation is at 66.19 per cent, meaning there's a huge amount of overhead left over for improving visuals still further. Click on the thumbnail for a higher resolution image.
In fact, the team can push ForzaTech to the equivalent of PC's ultra-level settings and we're still sitting at 88 per cent GPU utilisation
They gotta show the package I want to see what it looks like, soon. Hopefully it manages to be small and nice looking like the one s
Wrong
That screenshot was Forza 6 with DYNAMIC WEATHER added and 4k assets added (textures, reflection samples, cars)
Ultra setting was for Forza Apex with all the other features listed as well.
I'm not sure it'll be that much bigger than the S, obviously it'll be bigger, but I'm not sure it'll be a mammoth size difference i.e. the pro - they'll be going for a sleek design, but in the article they stated they kept the ports identical so those who had AV setups for the S could switch over, I'd imagine size was taken into account for that too. The vapour heatsink will make it taller, mind.
Mattrick is the guy that will talk shit in front of your face. Phil is the guy that pretends he's your friend but talk shit about you behind your back. Who would you rather have?
Looks pretty close to Xbox One S size.
This thread is very fascinating to watch. Both completely predictable and still kinda shocking.
Glad this is all finally out there though.
Maybe you should watch the video....
Maybe you should watch the video....
Honestly Playstation fans should be happy. An aggressive Microsoft makes Sony even better. Sony will absolutely not be playing any games for PS5, and that's the way it should be. Competition makes it better for everybody. As much as I wanted scorpio to be a beast (and it is) because I'm an xbox fan, I also know that it's going to trigger an insane hardware response from Sony at some later point down the line. This is exciting stuff.
I'm not sure it'll be that much bigger than the S, obviously it'll be bigger, but I'm not sure it'll be a mammoth size difference i.e. the pro - they'll be going for a sleek design, but in the article they stated they kept the ports identical so those who had AV setups for the S could switch over, I'd imagine size was taken into account for that too. The vapour heatsink will make it taller, mind.
In the end gamers win. I am currently about to finish breath of the wild so I can move on to Horizon all while anticipating more Scorpio news and looking forward to crackdown 3.
Looks pretty close to Xbox One S size.
326GBps and 12gb ram is all i need. Its going to be so goooood. So fucking gooooood mmmmm . The downplay is making me question mental health issues since its a severely serious matter to them. Hot, cheetos and dr pepper its a meltdown! Lol
Atleast i know when the next xbox comes with zen/vega its going to be one hell of a deep sea monster thatll make me nod like jack nicholson.
If we got a underpowered zen+vega just for the name, that would have been pityful tbh. "Ohhh its a zen but really a zen alpha because its so unnderpowered, naaaag nag nag,. Oooh its vega but so under powered/clocked, nag nag nag. Lost potential nag nag naag. Lol this shit is hilarious..
I am shocked that some posters here are bagging on this system and the DF coverage. The system looks mighty impressive and all the tech in it is pretty impressive. Being able to port Forza 6, add in 4k textures and it running at 60-70% of the GPU load and at 4k/60fps is impressive. This is on early hardware and early SDK's and they did in a very short time. I think many look past the extra ram, ram speed and the custom things MS and AMD have made.
It is just a lot of salty people. And to think that some are calling DF a MS mouthpiece and they sold out to MS and are only reporting what they were told. It is pretty sad. Can't some of you just be happy that someone made a really great console? Is it hurting you that a MS made console seems to be pretty damn good? I just don't get it. Fucking sad really.
There are many people like myself that are very impressed and are looking forward to this, just don't see why people need to shit on other people that are happy about this thing.
Nah, your brand of blind fanboyism has its own special ability to shit up threads with nonsenseActually, I haven't at all. I don't go around shitting on other consoles and their games out of a dislike for the company or their console. I support what I like, and don't go shit up other threads just because it's about something I'm not a fan of. You and others can keep up that talking point that somehow I do this kind of stuff, but it still won't be true. I see people getting mad as hell only because Scorpio looks impressive and DF was impressed with it? Jesus.. lol.
Can someone please dumb it down for me, what exactly is the power difference between the Scorpio and PS4 Pro?
Can someone please dumb it down for me, what exactly is the power difference between the Scorpio and PS4 Pro?
Reading this thread just confused me
Can someone please dumb it down for me, what exactly is the power difference between the Scorpio and PS4 Pro?
I don't even know what your saying here, literally any Ryzen processor would destroy the Jaguar.
More than the difference between XB1 and PS4. How much that difference translates to real world third party games, we won't really find out till they actually come out on it. It could be way more, or it could be less as well, really depends on just how easy it is for devs to optimize for either system and how much effort they put into it.Can someone please dumb it down for me, what exactly is the power difference between the Scorpio and PS4 Pro?
About 40%
Significant. More of a gap than PS4 and XBO.
More than the difference between XB1 and PS4. How much more and how that translates to real world third party games, we won't really find out till they actually come out on it.
40-50ish% better? That said, we need more real world examples to draw better conclusions.
Can someone please dumb it down for me, what exactly is the power difference between the Scorpio and PS4 Pro?
Reading this thread just confused me
Wow, I had no idea that happened.How does it feel to have a game journalist write an article based on your posts, and then mix you up with somebody else? I've seen so many articles written based on "NeoGAF member said so and so in a forum post." lol.
Considering price/size and timing wouldnt it have to be underclocked to meet their price point overall?
They even say this in the articles ....
If you're happy to be bamboozled by FUD from Microsoft, that's your business. Don't expect everyone else to blindly accept their misrepresentations of the technology. Xbox is supposedly in a new era of respect under Phil Spencer, but this article is straight from the Mattrick era playbook of media manipulation and obfuscation.
Mattrick is the guy that will talk shit in front of your face. Phil is the guy that pretends he's your friend but talk shit about you behind your back. Who would you rather have?
Can someone please dumb it down for me, what exactly is the power difference between the Scorpio and PS4 Pro?
Reading this thread just confused me
If the PS4 is supercharged PC architecture according to Cerny, what would that make Scorpio?
*You're
DF may have been impressed, but mostly because they have a poor underlying knowledge of GPU hardware. Anyone can google "command processor" and "execute indirect" and find information about Xbox One games from years ago being made using technology supposedly only just added to the Scorpio. The fact that Leadbetter failed to do so is just an indictment on his journalistic acumen.
In other words, he is Microsoft's tool.
We are all civilly discussing the validity of the details reported. Your post, however, adds nothing to the discussion.
I love my Pro, but the Scorpio sounds like much more has been done to it than just increased tflops.
I have read this article twice and the only things that stand out to me areIndeed. I'd like to believe it too but I've heard about the promises of DirecX before so I'll wait for the games before buying into this secret sauce/to the metal business again.
The price would be the barrier not the size because we are getting Ryzen CPUs at 65 watt TDPs right now.
Yup, there is no special customization and no secret sauce. When it comes to companies making noteworthy hardware customizations in the console space, that usually comes from Sony as they are a hardware company.
In this thread, we already have people claiming that the Scorpio is more powerful than the gtx 1080, lol. It's been really embarrassing coverage from digital foundry. Let Microsoft advertise their products by themselves. What we don't need is df trying to pass a paid ad as fact. I can't till the die shots come out from chip works.
Look, the Scorpio looks to be a fantastic piece of kit for a mid gen upgrade but it's just an rx480 and an overclocked jaguar. It's not more powerful than a 1080 or 1070 and once third party games drop, it'll be clear for everyone to see.
All I've seen today is the same pr nonsense we've seen with other consoles. Fp16, huma, power of the cloud, dx12 patch, and now it's a special dx12 co processor which is just a regular command processor. It's just sad and annoying.
We are all civilly discussing the validity of the details reported. Your post, however, adds nothing to the discussion.
Indeed, we should be better than this. People are being fed an advertisement, and they should be questioning what they are eating.
In other words, he is Microsoft's tool.