ISee
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This is a big processor...
The finger was really funny.
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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
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The finger was really funny.
I'll wait because I highly doubt that, but of true then HOLY SHIT. But that does factor in the weak cpu against a powerful cpu on pc?
Yeah, it is an interesting time for consoles that is for sure. We're entering PC territory with these temporary incremental upgrades every few years. It's starting to feel like it's always a bad time to buy a new console because there's always something brand new around the corner.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Absolutely!
The fact they've got the Forza engine running at 60fps 4K resolution with 66% of the GPU utilised is exciting too, means there's room for graphical improvements beyond the resolution bump and 60fps.
In the EG piece, he reckoned $399. Which would translate to a fairly round £399 to the UK market. IF you go on basic exchange rates.
Bahaha...those first 45 seconds.
Rellik
Member
1 TB. It's in the OP.
Chobel
Member
Yo! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
LostDonkey
Member
This is a big processor...
All I can see is him flipping me off.
Last_colossi
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Resident_UA
Member
If you will be spending $400-500 on new console you might as well try to find cheap 4k TV (one can be had for less than $300). These consoles don't feel like a great purchase on 1080p screen... (and I'm not the first one to say it)
BrettHeazy
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ReplacementPelican
Member
But vita means life? You can't buy life with $100!
Oh and to everyone whining about 'fanboys' in this thread please try and remember that most likely people are just cynical or expected the moon on a stick. Not every person that doesn't like your favourite thing is a 'fanboy', people can have differing opinions.
I'll have to wait until games release, I think. I chose PS4 as my multi-plat machine for the reason that it was stronger and, in all honesty, MS' exclusives just don't appeal to me anymore. If this is significantly stronger its a no-brainer over the Pro however if its a negligible difference - according to DF once games release - I may stick with the PS4 as I've gotten invested in its trophy system, love the UI, etc... and I already have an Xbox One S.
But I'll probably fold and buy this, I just want to use it enough to justify that.
Why would that be contentious? Nobody honestly expected it to be weaker, did they?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Because devs aren't supporting the thing right now? The Japanese support for the Xbox one is embarrassing honestly
Thanks for the info.Hmm Brave Move.
PatientGamer
Gold Member
Anyone who thinks this will retail for $399 is out of their minds.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
"Barely better than PS4Pro" people have me legit chuckling. It's like you aren't even reading or watching anything
scoobs
Member
When you consider 4GB is reserved for OS level stuff, it doesn't seem excessive at all. 8GB of RAM for games is great.
MarineMountie
Member
Now I hope and pray Microsoft actually has some games available to make me want to buy one of these. I doubt it, but one can hope
Transparent to everyone.
Sunset Samurai
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KimonoNoNo
Member
I like what I'm hearing here especially if back compat is as seemless as suggested.
Vital Tundra
Member
Probably going to be a great machine to choose for 3rd parties. The price is what might be a problem, regardless if it's for enthusiasts.
Also why do console makers feel the need to bottle neck their systems on the CPU side? Is it just a cost thing?
Also why do console makers feel the need to bottle neck their systems on the CPU side? Is it just a cost thing?
geordiemp
Member
Expected those specs if you took a ps4 pro and water cooled the APU.
The secret sauce could be in the DX12 hardware decoder, it could make a big difference to some games OR it could just be a bit of PR blurb to take the heat away from an up-clocked Jaguar and it will still run games at same frame rate as a pro.
As a pro owner I guess we will have to wait until their is a process node shrink from 14 / 16 nm before anyone can fit a Zen + 6 + TF on a single chip.
The secret sauce could be in the DX12 hardware decoder, it could make a big difference to some games OR it could just be a bit of PR blurb to take the heat away from an up-clocked Jaguar and it will still run games at same frame rate as a pro.
As a pro owner I guess we will have to wait until their is a process node shrink from 14 / 16 nm before anyone can fit a Zen + 6 + TF on a single chip.
This thing is gonna be pricey. People need to be ready to pay $500 to possibly $600. That GPU is not cheap.
Outrun
Member
You were told what to expect, and you expected something else.
The fault is yours, not theirs..
InquisitorAles
Member
Some people heard word "Jaguar" and immediately jumped the gun, talking about some "undelivering", while ignoring all the rest. And why I'm not surprised.
DF is under the impression it will be more expensive as it is the more powerful machine.
WordsintheWater
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Owning a PS4 Pro makes a purchase of this come down to price and if the exclusive games available for Xbox are compelling enough.
So far I think I will be okay with my Xbox One S, but E3 could very well change my mind.
So far I think I will be okay with my Xbox One S, but E3 could very well change my mind.
paragonpro
Banned
Seems like a meaty upgrade, that forza screen grab looked great cant wait to see something specificslly built for this thing running
That doesn't change a thing.
That will remain Windows 10 PC
uncle_koploski
Banned
okay, cool! A powerful console.
Now where's the stuff that actually matters... like the first party software and original IPs?
Now where's the stuff that actually matters... like the first party software and original IPs?
Well he was expecting Zen +a Vega GPU with some Navi features equivalent to a 980 Ti in performance..
RowdyReverb
Member
Gotta fit those 4K assets somewhere
Musky_Cheese
Banned
No. No you can't. And DF doesn't think so
matrixman92
Member
yeah I watched both videos and that was pretty boring imo. probably gonna be better for most people when tldr comparisons come out
Some people seem to be down on specs...but reading the article DF seems to suggest the system is punching well above its weight and the PC space needs to catch up to consoles in figuring out how to really get the most out of their components.
I don't really care what the specs and numbers are as long as it delivers. Whatever wizardy it is, is fine by me. Like Horizon on the pro.
I don't really care what the specs and numbers are as long as it delivers. Whatever wizardy it is, is fine by me. Like Horizon on the pro.
Suburban Thug
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So DF is predicting $499?
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
DF mentioned a couple of times that they think it will be $499, which will be about £450.
Microsoft has it on the hardware front.
This E3 is now about the games. Not about numbers on paper anymore.
By the time E3 rolls around hardware talk will be old news. We will simply compared games to games and it will be the true test of the future of this thing.
We all know sony has downright remarkable developers on their team that do things with hardware that are simply jaw dropping. Third party titles, yes we will see a difference in performance but I suspect first party sony titles ( numbers, figures, framrates etc ) aside will look better and more impressive.
This E3 is now about the games. Not about numbers on paper anymore.
By the time E3 rolls around hardware talk will be old news. We will simply compared games to games and it will be the true test of the future of this thing.
We all know sony has downright remarkable developers on their team that do things with hardware that are simply jaw dropping. Third party titles, yes we will see a difference in performance but I suspect first party sony titles ( numbers, figures, framrates etc ) aside will look better and more impressive.
amstradcpc
Member
PS4 PRO APU is 350 mm2 versus 360 mm2. Not such a difference...