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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
- Thread starter LelouchZero
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This class of CPUs can push 50k+ drawcalls with low-level APIs utilized properly. Maybe DX12 overhead is different, but either way, graphic throughput hasn't been stinted by graphic-APIs on consoles for a long time - it's more an issue of legacy-code stacks that are still stuck in DX9 era and come with their own bottlenecks.tapedeck said:
Because this system is designed to last. A lot of thought went into this thing. It's going to be all I need for at least another 5-6 years.
Baleoce
Member
I am impressed by the specs. What I'm mostly interested in is what all that spec headway, putting 4k performance to one side, contributes to their vision for Scorpio? E3 will be very interesting. I hope they put all their cards on the table and show us mostly retail kit gameplay footage. If they've really done their homework, that's the best way to wow us / get us onboard and showcase what it can do.
That would be incredible!
Yeah, I mean sure it's not a generational leap by any stretch, but I would expect it to be more expensive than the Pro.
Doesn't strike me as something that will really move the needle frankly. I feel like MS might not have even bothered if they had seen the tepid response to the Pro.
Nice. Specs look good, great support thought out for older games, perpetuity almost in swing too. As a PC guy this stuff bodes well for development of games in general as yet more reason to keep pushing the high end, so should be good news all round.
Not really. The die hard fans will be in regardless and that seems to be the core of what they are going for. Price will drop as time goes on obviously, but some will be more compelled to go with the cheaper Xbox One systems, knowing they can take that forward to the new system when it is more affordable, and get something often better than PS4 Pro.
All in all most of the advantages of perpetuity finally hitting the console space, and I suspect customers will click on to that and like it.
Talking of "without generations" this seems it. Like PC, people will shift to what becomes affordable to them when they feel like it.
Not really. The die hard fans will be in regardless and that seems to be the core of what they are going for. Price will drop as time goes on obviously, but some will be more compelled to go with the cheaper Xbox One systems, knowing they can take that forward to the new system when it is more affordable, and get something often better than PS4 Pro.
All in all most of the advantages of perpetuity finally hitting the console space, and I suspect customers will click on to that and like it.
Talking of "without generations" this seems it. Like PC, people will shift to what becomes affordable to them when they feel like it.
That's just marketing speak. The point of DX12/Vulkan was to bring console style optimizations to the PC platform. Though I suppose they could just be talking about the GPU supporting the full DX12 featuresetset, haven't really read up on it so please excuse my ignorance
It's kinda like a Gaf -> Internet -> GAF thing
The Artisan
Member
i'm not a PC gamer savy guy so: does this mean scorpio is close to the top of the line?
Pakoe
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hanspampel
Banned
I don't think you don't need an extra 4GB for that. Correct me if I'm wrong devs.
You found this more boring than the whole "This is what HDR might look like if we could show you via stream what HDR actually looks like" presentation?
Doesn't look like that much better than the Pro to warrant abandoning that platform for this one.
I realized I never honestly cared about their hardware superiority/inferiority - it's their games I want to know about. Unfortunately, it will take more than 1 conference of promises to make up for half a decade of letting me down
Yes. It was far more boring than that.
I realized I never honestly cared about their hardware superiority/inferiority - it's their games I want to know about. Unfortunately, it will take more than 1 conference of promises to make up for half a decade of letting me down
Yes. It was far more boring than that.
Daffy Duck
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It will for £630.
PeskyToaster
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That's because companies know nobody understands computer numbers so they through them around like anything. Does Microsoft tell you what a teraflop means or what it is measuring? No, they expect you to see that one number is bigger than the other so you can't fault people for doing that when it's exactly what they want you to do.
Resident_UA
Member
And I actually own every Xbox product and trying to make an actual decision. So which one of us is trolling?
Cool. Good work. I'll stick with my plan of revisiting this gen's Xbox games down the road when the price of this hardware dips down pretty low (assuming it's not so rare a product that we can never find it for cheap). Also, if I don't ever get a gaming PC, which I think is a leap I'm a bit more likely to make.
SomethingInTheSea
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$499 would make it almost £500 in the UK, which would be pretty much DOA and £150 more expensive than the PS4 Pro, Microsoft aren't that insane.
It'd also be £300 more expensive than the Xbox One S, which is too much of a gap for anybody to consider the jump unless they already owned one and were upgrading.
Well let's be clear, these changes aren't in the same world as a Zen upgrade. It's nice (and in fact basically required), but not huge or amazing.
GHG
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Where did you read that?
Wishmaster92
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$499 was the popular guess around here.
So Jaguar AND $499? Wasn't expecting that...
giancarlo123x
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Purchasing this console will all fall on if they release some damn games on it that I will enjoy, I haven't touched my xbox since a month after gears 4 released.
Does custom count as it won't be Jaguar?
VAT? Admittedly, I just dumped $499 into Google!
Kssio_Aug
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I call it: "Damage Control"
Tacorona72
Member
I expected specs and nothing more, but this was a pretty impressive reveal. I wonder what games they'll show with it at E3?
Doug Heffernan
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This thing is a beast, can't wait!!!
Red Dead Redemption on this console is gonna be amazing.
Red Dead Redemption on this console is gonna be amazing.
That title makes this feel like paid advertisement.
Last_colossi
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....If that's the case it'll be $699 AUD.... they're really pushing it if that's the case.
longdi
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So are they using 384bit memory bus? I think beside the bandwidth, Scorpio is ok, $499 is expected, $399 if they are feeling aggressive.
They sure know how to hype something a year off.
The hardware is just ok, nothing super custom of any sorts. If Sony had waited a year, I'm sure Team Cerny will come up with something as good if not better.
Look at how PS4 managed to smash Xbox1-OG when both of them went head to head.
They sure know how to hype something a year off.
The hardware is just ok, nothing super custom of any sorts. If Sony had waited a year, I'm sure Team Cerny will come up with something as good if not better.
Look at how PS4 managed to smash Xbox1-OG when both of them went head to head.
Well yeah, If you read the article how it holds up VS high end PC GPU.
AyraSutoraifu
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Good point, look at HZD.
RowdyReverb
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I wouldn't go looking for it on a tech-focused news outlet unveiling hardware specifications. I'd guess E3 where that kind of thing is usually shown
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The cooling solution by itself is likely going at add a decent amount to the price, I'm thinking $449 minimum.
Really not keen on some of the "special sauce" buzzwording either, that felt very much like sponsored content, and as such should be treated with a certain amount of skepticism.
Really not keen on some of the "special sauce" buzzwording either, that felt very much like sponsored content, and as such should be treated with a certain amount of skepticism.
lol