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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
- Thread starter LelouchZero
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Why? Wouldn't the Scorpio and Xbox one OS be the same?
SenkiDala
Member
People were expecting a device that match the high end PCs (around 3000 to 4000$), sold at 399$, and now those people are disappointed, sigh...
The specs seems good, better than the pro, and it seems possible to release it at 399$, so to be attractive to many people, that's nice. A 599/699 or more console would have been dumb, nobody would buy that.
The specs seems good, better than the pro, and it seems possible to release it at 399$, so to be attractive to many people, that's nice. A 599/699 or more console would have been dumb, nobody would buy that.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
So my third hand info was spot on.
Amazing engineering.
Amazing engineering.
wesleyshark
Banned
"This, my friends, is hardcore."
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
It will help a lot for titles trying to run full 4K for sure
It's significantly more powerful than a PS4 pro.
I was waiting to see some more about this before I potentially get a PS4 pro. It sounds pretty nice but my console ecosystem is pretty much all PS4 now.
I wonder how devs will tackle this though, will there be much of a difference between ps4 pro and scorpio games in the end? Both still need the games to work on the lesser console.
I wonder how devs will tackle this though, will there be much of a difference between ps4 pro and scorpio games in the end? Both still need the games to work on the lesser console.
Papacheeks
Banned
Did anyone catch on the advanced cooler Rich was talking about? Sounds expensive.
If this thing is $399 I'll be surprised to be honest.
If this thing is $399 I'll be surprised to be honest.
no worries ;D
jaguar really makes most sense. ryzen has just released and the current models available publically are way too pricy for a console. even the r5's are likely too expensive for a console and would probably still make a hypothetical zen scorpio csot $599.
So im glad they went with jag. keep costs down in the console market.
that's the only thing I find impressive here. I'll take a wait and see approach
Huh? that looks like a huge upgrade to me.
I swear the idiots have all come out in force today.
Just watch, by the end of the morning, someone will have managed to spin this as the Pro is actually more powerful if coded to the metal. Lol
Ps4 pro has more memory available than 5gb (5,5gb iirc). Unfortunately, DF is often a bit too quick with their tables and graphs.
wesleyshark
Banned
Supersampling for all games for 1080p TV owners.
Bless. Up.
Bless. Up.
Caayn
Member
As it should be. Sony fucked this up with the PS4 Pro.
franklyshankly
Member
So it is Polaris then? I'm not surprised, but many people will be.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Supersampling being universal is the big news here.
Bigly?
Nah, it dwarfs the XBO. This thing ain't rendering most software at 4k.
NTTAWWT, checkerboard and upscaling methods employed by the Pro will work just fine at these specs.
DX11.X is already mostly DX12 so don't expect gains on the CPU side
AfterTheFall
Member
What a potent machine. I hate to say it but I do love shiny new things so I'll be purchasing.
Stilton Disco
Member
Exactly what I was expecting, a slightly better equivalent of the PS4Pro. Hopefully all that ridiculous 'next gen' talk will die off now.
OK, well you've got some good hardware again at last Microsoft, now get on with announcing enough exclusive games to make it actually worth owning!
OK, well you've got some good hardware again at last Microsoft, now get on with announcing enough exclusive games to make it actually worth owning!
justsomeguy
Member
Not yet afaik, but my 4 ceiling speakers hope that it'll get added now the console supports it. First party should at least, I hope...
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
So it's not really THAT much powerful...
Like, it's basically Xbox Pro-er.
Edit:
Not downplaying. I genuinely expect socks to be blown off.
I'm glad MS is on equal/better footing in terms of hardware now.
Real parity begins.
Really sounds like that.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I knew you would do this
Seems like it is part Jaguar part zen. The power handling of lowering the voltage of areas where it currently is not needed, is a Ryzen thing, it was explained during the reveal of Ryzen.
But it seems they offloaded more to the GPU, including the draw calls. That is extremely interesting, I wonder how that will hold up, and what one can achieve in an exclusive game for Scorpio. When one isn't bound by the draw call limit of the Xbox One, one should be able to push a lot more with that. Would love a more indepth analysis of the changes to GPU and CPU
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But it seems they offloaded more to the GPU, including the draw calls. That is extremely interesting, I wonder how that will hold up, and what one can achieve in an exclusive game for Scorpio. When one isn't bound by the draw call limit of the Xbox One, one should be able to push a lot more with that. Would love a more indepth analysis of the changes to GPU and CPU
.boneyjangles
Member
I love how pseudo-technical know-nothings are calling the CPU the bottleneck already.
ReplacementPelican
Member
This is similar to how it works on PS4Pro a lot of the time and its a really great feature and it'll likely be even better for games that run native 4K on the Xbox Scorpio.
Suburban Thug
Member
Just finished the video and everything sounds incredible. Only concern is no vents on the top...I'm very worried about how hot this thing is going to get.