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I can see some optimization happening. Why not? It's totally possible.
I hope so. Maybe this is a hint that they will update the dash with Project Neon.
I can see some optimization happening. Why not? It's totally possible.
Games will undoubtedly look and run better on the scorpio, the only real question is the price and if they keep making their exclusives available to PC gamers. E3 is going to be nucking futs MS has got to bring it when it comes to the games.
I find this really interesting. Well thought.However, potentially the most exciting aspect surrounding the CPU revamp doesn't actually relate to the processor blocks at all, but rather to the GPU command processor - the piece of hardware that receives instructions from the CPU, piping them through to the graphics core.
"We essentially moved Direct3D 12," says Goossen. "We built that into the command processor of the GPU and what that means is that, for all the high frequency API invocations that the games do, they'll all natively implemented in the logic of the command processor - and what this means is that our communication from the game to the GPU is super-efficient."
Processing draw calls - effectively telling the graphics hardware what to draw - is one of the most important tasks the CPU carries out. It can suck up a lot of processor resources, a pipeline that traditionally takes thousands - perhaps hundreds of thousands - of CPU instructions. With Scorpio's hardware offload, any draw call can be executed with just 11 instructions, and just nine for a state change.
Honestly I don't see this anything besides $400-$450It's all fun and games until they name THE PRICE.
That's all I want to know. This basically sounds like a pretty beefy gaming PC so I'm expecting north of $500 easily.
While it certainly has cool features for a console, will console folks be ready to fork over what will most likely be another "Sony $599" moment?
I'd *probably* jump in at $499 but north of that is a NO GO and I'll just keep on with my PS4 Pro and hope that Sony releases an add on for 4K/UHD disks/movies or the inevitable revision of the Pro with a true 4K drive.
Sony just has marketing rights. There is nothing stopping Dice from optimizing Battlefront to be a showcase on the Scorpio.Ah goddamn it.
Well let's at least hope they take advantage of the extra memory though.
GPU is Polaris based fam.Sheeet just finally getting to go through all the stuff. I wasn't expecting this many articles. I literally did as I said I would and CTRL + F to check for zen lol. Alas not in there, but so far sounding like a complete beast. Mandatory options for all gamers regardless of, I believe, TV etc is also a positive thing.
I'm loving all the detail. Seems like they really did a lot of work on this thing. That GPU is almost certainly sounding like it could be Vega (although not done reading everything), but so far I'm surprised I see no dig down on that info. I'm guessing they can't give us more on that till Vega is actually out or something?
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing!
Sheeet just finally getting to go through all the stuff. I wasn't expecting this many articles. I literally did as I said I would and CTRL + F to check for zen lol. Alas not in there, but so far sounding like a complete beast. Mandatory options for all gamers regardless of, I believe, TV etc is also a positive thing.
I'm loving all the detail. Seems like they really did a lot of work on this thing. That GPU is almost certainly sounding like it could be Vega (although not done reading everything), but so far I'm surprised I see no dig down on that info. I'm guessing they can't give us more on that till Vega is actually out or something?
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing!
Cheevoman, post if you're okay.
Good for you, it has currently been out for 2.5 years for many of us. Launched in 5th september 2014 here in Sweden.
This reveal was never meant to be about the games, so I don't understand why you feel the need to bring it up here. It's a spec reveal by Digital Foundry. What did you expect, really?
(Xbox' lineup for the rest of the year is pretty decent actually. I can understand if you're not interested in those games, but don't act as if there are none at all)
Sheeet just finally getting to go through all the stuff. I wasn't expecting this many articles. I literally did as I said I would and CTRL + F to check for zen lol. Alas not in there, but so far sounding like a complete beast. Mandatory options for all gamers regardless of, I believe, TV etc is also a positive thing.
I'm loving all the detail. Seems like they really did a lot of work on this thing. That GPU is almost certainly sounding like it could be Vega (although not done reading everything), but so far I'm surprised I see no dig down on that info. I'm guessing they can't give us more on that till Vega is actually out or something?
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing!
BTW I made bets with folks. So PM me with what the terms of those bets were, and I will make good today. I don't go back on my word. That's my Ninja Way!
Not funny.. I was expecting Rysen .so cpu is:
don't worry man. Scorpio will launch 9 months later in Tier2 territories, too
It's been a bit since I've played, but were any of the games in MCC running at 60fps? If not, we're not going to magically get that performance.
Are your fucking serious?
Just stop while your ahead dude, you were wrong on your assumptions on zen, and your totally wrong on vega.
Leadbetter said it was Polaris in the video.
Honestly I don't see this anything besides $400-$450
Yea, like you, I know some of those words too 😁I find this really interesting. Well thought.
No, and no again. I'm still reading everything. Where does it confirm that it's Polaris, and not Vega? I have no problem admitting as much, but please show me where it has been confirmed. Not too difficult a request.
Wow. Forza running 4K/60 with ultra settings. I didn't think that would be possible with 6TF. It sounds like this really is a 4K machine.
You know what, I'm really surprised some of you guys are surprised? Forza 6 Apex run at 4k 60fps on a Stock RX 480 at Ultra settings, not all games running 4k demands a 12TF GPU....Do you guys think the Scorpio could run Halo: MCC in 4k/60fps if it was patched?
Honestly I don't see this anything besides $400-$450
Watch the fucking video where they clearly state Polaris. Which is the same as PS4 PRO but this looks like it's more based on thew new rx 580 refresh possibly which is still Polaris.
It's been a bit since I've played, but were any of the games in MCC running at 60fps? If not, we're not going to magically get that performance.
all of them are 60fps.
People talking about games... really? That's a valid concern, but absolutely no one in the right mind was expecting this to be an E3-like event where MS would announce Scorpio together with a bunch of new games and some other news. Everyone knew this was about Scorpio specs, and the fact that Digital Foundry would do the reveal makes everything even more obvious.
I do hope MS has some good amount of new games to reveal. But I won't expect shit about it before E3.
That's what more flashy events like E3 or Gamescom are for. Today's reveals are meant for enthusiasts who are interested in this kind of stuff.I get that but to the average customer the "specs" don't mean anything without some sort of visual aid. Let me be clear, I've been waiting to buy an Xbox until this is out, so I'm not here to grief. just wondering where are the games!
No.
Bookmark this post and feel free to serve me up some crow in a few years if MS's next major console does not involve a much stronger CPU, a ~doubling of TF, and faster/more RAM. I'd say those are all safe bets.
Hell, Scorpio already represents all that with the only arguable exception being the CPU. But there will be other options available on that front ~3 years down the road. You can rest assured that the next Xbox will not have a Jaguar in it.
EDIT: Read more of his tweets... I just don't get why people talk about stuff like this when they don't have a clue what it is...
I think 4GB of RAM just for the dashboard is overkill
This is how I see it.You are getting way too wrapped up in the customizations. It's a Jag, absolutely.
It's not a car with a new engine, it's a car with new tires. And maybe some tweaks under the hood.
I reality Yes.. for Native 4k No.So is 6TF Good?
On a pc is 6TF good?
So is 6TF Good?
On a pc is 6TF good?
No, and no again. I'm still reading everything. Where does it confirm that it's Polaris, and not Vega? I have no problem admitting as much, but please show me where it has been confirmed. Not too difficult a request.
Oh wow, then I stand corrected if so. Link plz
YesFor the love of God can anyone clarify whether or not 6tf is good?
Calling it a "xone pro" kind of down plays it
It's a bigger leap from x1 to Scorpio
Then it was from PS4 to Pro
(This of course helped by the OG x1 being underpowered)