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Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten |OT| - Defend The Prinnies, Define Your Netherworld.
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She's mainly there for old fans of the series. If you haven't played the first Disgaea, then you probably won't care (especially since you can get the regular support version of her, anyways).
Yeah, I had missed the news altogether as well. By the time I found out, I had already bought my copy at a local game store and a pre-order was no longer possible. I was extremely fortunate that a generous gaffer was able to provide me with a code. <3
You said you bought it from NISA? If you got the Premium Edition, then they should be e-mailing you a code.
Master Milk said:
Yeah, I had missed the news altogether as well. By the time I found out, I had already bought my copy at a local game store and a pre-order was no longer possible. I was extremely fortunate that a generous gaffer was able to provide me with a code. <3
You said you bought it from NISA? If you got the Premium Edition, then they should be e-mailing you a code.
Dedication Through Light
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Trojita said:
The games had secret missables? That would be horrible for the get the 100% or something trophy.
My favorite voice in the game is the Information Bureau Chief, lol. For Fuka, I just cant get Sakura Haruno (Naruto) out of my head when I listen to her (I imagine it is her VA but I cant find the VA listing for the game).
Master Milk
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Yea, I got it from NISA, but I bought the regular edition because I couldn't see a reason to go premium. I thought it was just the Fuka figure, which while cute, isn't worth it. I would have dropped the $10 for Flonne instantly though.TheExodu5 said:
Hah, and if I had gone premium, I might have gotten the game last week and could have beaten it already, too. Oh well, I'll look at the details harder for D5.
Disgaea anything being hard is a little lol-worthy.
Complicated, though, I suppose is true. But it's not like a lot of the complicated stuff is necessary to get through the game nor is it without some in-game explanation to the function of it. Just how to best utilize them or other nuances to them aren't really covered.
Complicated, though, I suppose is true. But it's not like a lot of the complicated stuff is necessary to get through the game nor is it without some in-game explanation to the function of it. Just how to best utilize them or other nuances to them aren't really covered.
Reviewers who rate a game poorly because of its difficulty should not be reviewing games at all. Look at Demons Souls' difficulty and show me a reviewer who gave it a low score.
Disgaea games are notorious for their difficulty but only in the post game battles; that can be remedied by a few 1-100 item level runs and boosted innocents.
Disgaea games are notorious for their difficulty but only in the post game battles; that can be remedied by a few 1-100 item level runs and boosted innocents.
Dedication Through Light said:
The Fuuka figurine ended up being pretty cool. it's really detailed, and the magnetic base is a really nice tough. I kind of wish I would have gotten the complete figure set now...though I would probably be branded a weaboo if anyone saw them :\
Android18a
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Anyone else getting really long loading times even with the standard built in HDD? Particularly when going into mystery rooms or into the Cam-Pain HQ?
cj_iwakura
Member
Gametrailers reviews never count for much.
Also, Disgaea is the easiest game to break, ever. Story mode should never be an issue, annoying geopanel stages aside.
Also, Disgaea is the easiest game to break, ever. Story mode should never be an issue, annoying geopanel stages aside.
cj_iwakura
Member
Yeah, that review is pretty bad. I usually only watch them for previews, but way to cite all the appeals of Disgaea as a negative.
Dedication Through Light
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Android18a said:
I get long times when just saving as well as when going to the Cam-Pain area. Im glad I save often.
PataHikari
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TheExodu5 said:
"My Girlfriend" still makes me laugh.
R_thanatos
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Keiician said:
Not surprised .. GT won't understand the value of such an huge game ( probably rushed it to get the review ) . I don't think a game you can break the mecanics ( and levels ) so easily can be HARD ..but i guess it can be hard if you rush it ...
Trojita
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Well from what I remember of Disgaea 1&2Dedication Through Light said:
In 1, Etna had her secret room that you had to activate by hitting a hidden switch during every chapter. In 2, I remember you needing to hit switches, I don't think it was missable though and could be done at any time, in order to activate the opposite world.
PataHikari
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Big B said:
The Master/Pupil thing has been somewhat changed.
You'll eventually get a mechanic called "Evil Symbols" these let you place characters in groups, the "leader" of these groups gets the extra stats that the Master/Pupil relationship gave. Also, the leader can use the spells, but they can't be learned permanently. So yeah, buying the spells and skills with mana is the only way now.
PataHikari said:
One exception (sort of); the Evil Symbol Legendary Tree allows you to set up a Master/Pupil relationship between two characters. If the Master uses a spell of the Pupil's via standing next to them 10 times, they'll be allowed to use any of their spells regardless of where they're placed on the map.
They still can't learn them permanently this way but at least it allows for some flexibility in positioning.
Mister Zimbu
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I'm close to finishing the first Disgaea. Should I move on to Disgaea 2 or just jump right up to this?
I can understand it, at least with the first one. It seemed very easy right at the beginning to get the game into an almost unwinnable state (where almost all characters are dead or low HP and you don't have any gold to heal them), just because of how scarce money was at the beginning compared to how much it cost to heal your party. Once your characters were high enough to finish 10 levels of an item world that stopped being a problem though. That happened to me in both my first two tries playing the game and turned me off of it for awhile until I tried it again recently.
scy said:
I can understand it, at least with the first one. It seemed very easy right at the beginning to get the game into an almost unwinnable state (where almost all characters are dead or low HP and you don't have any gold to heal them), just because of how scarce money was at the beginning compared to how much it cost to heal your party. Once your characters were high enough to finish 10 levels of an item world that stopped being a problem though. That happened to me in both my first two tries playing the game and turned me off of it for awhile until I tried it again recently.
Scalpel Knight
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Man, I love me some NIS games, but I've never finished a single one. I have D3 but I haven't even opened it, and then there's that Vita port coming soon. I played ZHP most recently and loved it. Where do I go from here? Should I just wait for an inevitable Vita port? Or must I buy this now because I'm such a sucker for collector's editions etc?
I've played most of Disgaea 1, I have the PS2 version of Disgaea 2... maybe I should just start at Disgaea 1 again, the PSP port, then Dark Hero Days.
I've played most of Disgaea 1, I have the PS2 version of Disgaea 2... maybe I should just start at Disgaea 1 again, the PSP port, then Dark Hero Days.
Normally, I would tell you not to bother going into D2, but with Axel making an appearence, you may want some familiar backstory. If you're going to get it, I strongly advise getting the PSP version though, as that is, what i believe to be, the vastly superior version between the two. Although I do prefer D2's battle system to D3-4 (When I say battle, I mean skill mastery) 4 is pretty much better in every way conceivable.Mister Zimbu said:
I'd get D2
HD though, because even on its own, it's an amazing game.Disgaea 3 the intro song and video had english subtitles. It was fun since i dont know Japanese. Why doesnt D4 have english subtitles for the intro song?
Seriously how can you beat this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjF8okzXSiY&feature=related so awesome
Seriously how can you beat this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjF8okzXSiY&feature=related so awesome
makeamidget
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Is anyone opposed to starting a list of people to add and run some money maps, 5* things? Cause grinding this Exp +50% is killer. Wouldn't mind if anyone added me and ran my crappy map.
Nix said:Normally, I would tell you not to bother going into D2, but with Axel making an appearence, you may want some familiar backstory. If you're going to get it, I strongly advise getting the PSP version though, as that is, what i believe to be, the vastly superior version between the two. Although I do prefer D2's battle system to D3-4 (When I say battle, I mean skill mastery) 4 is pretty much better in every way conceivable.
I'd get D2
I don't really think the PSP version of D2 is that much better. They're pretty much identical, no? Disgaea Afternoon of Darkness was a little different due to the improved visuals, voice acting, and addition of the animation skip feature. Are there many improvements made for D2? It was already pretty much perfect on the PS2.
BobM said:
Disgaea 3's music is really hard to beat. It's the best in the series, IMO. Especially this song:
La la la la la la la la...you know the one.
Lostconfused
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Might not be the best but I always liked Lord Laharl's Hymn.
Hey everyone, I have a quick (and probably already-asked-at-some-point) question. I've just played a shitload of Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together, and I loved Final Fantasy Tactics, so I'm thinking about getting in to this franchise. Not having played any of these games, which one should I try out first? Are the mechanics of the first one fine, or have the sequels made too many improvements over the first for it to be recommendable?
The sequels have made quite a few improvements over the first. If you rather go portable, then you can start with Disgaea Afternoon of Darkness (the first game). Otherwise, Disgaea 4 seems as good a place as any to start.
If you're really not interested in the post game content at all, then the mechanic improvements are not a huge deal. To give an example of one of these improvements: in Disgaea 2, 3, 4, you can get XP for healing allies. In the original game, you only get XP for killing enemies, which makes leveling healers rather difficult by comparison.
If you're really not interested in the post game content at all, then the mechanic improvements are not a huge deal. To give an example of one of these improvements: in Disgaea 2, 3, 4, you can get XP for healing allies. In the original game, you only get XP for killing enemies, which makes leveling healers rather difficult by comparison.
Dedication Through Light
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Lostconfused said:
I always liked this version of Lord Laharl's Hymn. I like coming to the random mystery rooms in the item world and hearing it.
cj_iwakura
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Wait, D4's OP doesn't have subs? WTF?
BobTheFork
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Didn't get much farther in the story today because I started grinding a bit and checking out Item World
Feels like the difficulty jumped again. I'm already starting to like this more than 3, not that I had an issue with 3. Right now, I think I prefer the club system to the evil items. Not digging the use of space of the limited enrollment. I also think I liked it better when you got the eztra stats or XP off of the someone else and not a group member.
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Dedication Through Light
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BobTheFork said:
With the way its setup, if the symbols are oriented well, then some people can at least gain dual stats in the cam-pain area. But I too need to spend a bit of time grinding for more mana. Standard enemies kill my team too fast.
BobTheFork
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That's true, people can be affected by more than one group now. I'll have to see down the road, right now it just looks like I will be able to put far fewer people total in the groups with the space taken up by the item itself. Before at least you could get everyone into some usefull position.Dedication Through Light said:
BobTheFork said:
The two ones you really want to share spots (Aura Pyramid, Training Grounds) can only share one spot easily, two if you sacrifice a spot on Aura Pyramid. You can expand their sizes via the Class World, though, so you can get more out of it. Some of the other Evil Symbols are easier to work in, though, since they lay out better than those two do.
Personally, I didn't bother with it too much until I got around to real grinding time. Now I'm expanding them all so I can try to get 3 or 4 guys going at once + Dual Wield Giant Magichange to try and level 8-9 guys at once.
BobTheFork
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I think I've just been trying to start my grinding earlier this time. They didn't ever have trophies when I beat D3 the first time, so I had to pick it back up and there was so much to do. I think I'm trying to find places to grind and to place people so I can maximixe my stats and reincarnations.scy said: