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Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten |OT| - Defend The Prinnies, Define Your Netherworld.
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BobTheFork said:
What it comes down to, in my mind, is that grinding early on doesn't really save you time in the long run. I spent the last day or so using
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Considering how much it takes to maximize reincarnations (186,000 stored levels still and naked stats of 280k), trying to get it done when you're limited to
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...that said, waiting so damn long before doing some grinding is just hard to do.
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Dedication Through Light said:
If you have any Enforcer innocents (pretty common on Emblems; you can get some in some early Chapter 2 map pretty easily), you can use that to move unsubdued Managers to an item. Chocolates are a pretty good source of early game Managers, if I recall, so you can get up to the 150 Unsubdued count (300 after subdued) you need pretty easily.
Additionally, the Priest's first purchasable Evility that I can't remember the name of right now gives +50% Mana from kills and you can used that to help jack up your Mana gaining rate so it trickles down via Aura Pyramid a little faster.
Android18a
Member
I gave her a gun.
Anyways, its it just me, or do you guys wish there was a 'show attack animations once' option. It's great seeing the new attacks the first time, but I always find myself playing with animations off these days. I just get tired of watching them. I've done this since Disgaea 2.
Don't get me wrong - I love the attacks, I just find it annoying to watch the long ones over and over. Maybe if they let us press triangle to skip the ones we don't want to see...
Anyways, its it just me, or do you guys wish there was a 'show attack animations once' option. It's great seeing the new attacks the first time, but I always find myself playing with animations off these days. I just get tired of watching them. I've done this since Disgaea 2.
Don't get me wrong - I love the attacks, I just find it annoying to watch the long ones over and over. Maybe if they let us press triangle to skip the ones we don't want to see...
Android18a
Member
=0 Did not know. Awesome, thanks!
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I always leave the animations on and watch them all the way through. *smug*
PataHikari
Banned
No pretty sure her specials are based off whatever weapon is equipped.scy said:
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
I just started Chapter 3. I'm glad monsters are more useful in this game than they have in the past with Magi-change and Fusion. I don't know if once the characters start learning more of their uber abilities, whether the monsters will start lagging behind, but magi-changing seems useful at least for now.
Android18a
Member
Magichange is cool, but for the payoff of having one less character on the battlefield it shouldn't disappear after a couple of turns 
scy said:
Ohh, that's what they are. I got some from hospital items last night, but wasn't sure what they did. I think they were called Land Sharks or something in the JP version. I kept looking for those, didn't know they changed the name.
I'm still grinding the same late game story map. Once I get a few characters up around 200+ I'll open up CoO. Don't feel like messing with it yet, plus I'm still making pretty good progress with everything. Moving unsubdued Managers with Enforcers will just make everything go even quicker so that's awesome.
I wanted to recreate my D3 team of Masked Heroes and Female Ninjas, but they removed the Female Ninjas from D4
. I think I read somewhere they'll be DLC later.Master Milk
Member
The map editor would be a lot more fun if you weren't forced to used pieces like you are.
ElegantBuffalo
Neo Member
How do you unlock the yin yang technician?
Just finished chapter 4 and went ahead and went to lvl 20 in a dark rosary. I love leveling the items that give to all stats. Makes reincarnated characters so much easier to keep alive when you are trying to get them a couple last hits to boost them up so they can become real characters again.
Just finished chapter 4 and went ahead and went to lvl 20 in a dark rosary. I love leveling the items that give to all stats. Makes reincarnated characters so much easier to keep alive when you are trying to get them a couple last hits to boost them up so they can become real characters again.
PataHikari said:
I'll have to check if they change what's listed but only ATK specials use whatever weapon is equipped. If they distinctly say ATK/HIT then it uses ATK/HIT regardless.
ElegantBuffalo said:
Level 30 Witch Doctor/Sorceror/I have no idea why I cannot remember this class name and Ninja.
Android18a said:Magichange is cool, but for the payoff of having one less character on the battlefield it shouldn't disappear after a couple of turns
There's an Evilty (Bond of Souls) that grants unlimited Magichange; sacrifices an Evilty spot but if it's that big of a deal...
It has it's uses, though. Mainly for Giant Magichange for better area of effect sizes.
Dedication Through Light
Member
scy said:
I cant figure out how to get giant magichange. Ill have my giant prinny but then no option available for magichange after that.
Loving it so far... just got out of the first chapter. I know I won't have as much time to put into all the little nuances of the game that I'd like, but is there anything I should really be wary of or actively try to make sure I accomplish (whether that be a class, item, skill, etc.) that makes the game any more fun that it already is?
Grinchy
Banned
I did that at first, but once I realized I could turn them off I just couldn't go back. It's like playing FFTactics on a PC and not upping the speed - a waste of time.InfiniteNine said:
I had no idea about the R2 trick though, that's fantastic! Err, at least I'm assuming that holds true in D3. I don't have D4 yet.
Dedication Through Light
Member
BobM said:
When I do post game grinding I dont spend time watching the animations. It already takes upwards of four hours to get to high levels (initially). However, in doing post game story missions, I do turn the animations back on as well in item world runs.
BobM said:
I'd agree but my "perfect" D1 file is something like 100+ hours longer than my D2 one by virtue of having to sit through those animations. Over and over and over.
I just get used to holding R2 when I want to see an attack, be it due to never seeing it or just liking the animation. Especially now that there's a trophy for seeing them all.
Master Milk
Member
I seem to be finding more spare time than I thought I'd have, so I've been playing a bit in short bursts, which is really weird.
I want the Nekomata and Succubus class as soon as possible. Do they appear in a story battle fairly early on (Ch.6 or before) or should I just go through Item World and kill one?
I want the Nekomata and Succubus class as soon as possible. Do they appear in a story battle fairly early on (Ch.6 or before) or should I just go through Item World and kill one?
Master Milk
Member
Ah, that's cool. I noticed a had a rare weak item, so I went into that and got a Succubus, but I didn't see any Nekomatas, so I'll assume they're at 71+, which would probably just get me killed now. On to Ch. 6 then!scy said:
I think I'll fight every battle with a giant Succubus and Nekomata. They look so awesome as giants.
Master Milk said:
And, as a plus, Magichange Nekomata get you a Fist. Giant Magichange of that gets you the proper AoE for grinding late on so having one around is a nice bonus.
Or a Cu Sith but, c'mon, look at those Nekomata. Look at them. You're making them cry for not choosing it.
Edit: Random tip since I'm doing the number crunching on it now. The Cabinet bonuses stack and, currently, look to be about the following:
All+ - +5%
All++ - +10%
Stat+ - +12.5%
Stat++ - +25%
Additively stacks.
I'm not 100% conclusive on the values (might be 10%/20% on the single stat bonuses) but they're "close enough" to get a feel for it right now.
As for how they work, the person in the Cabinet position and everyone in the same Evil Symbol as them gets the associated boost. So, for example, if you have four people in the Training Grounds Evil Symbol and they're in the following 4 positions: President (All++), Education (All+), Trade (ATK++), and Judicial (ATK+), then you're getting approximately a 52.5% boost to your ATK and 15% boost to all other stats gained per level.
Dedication Through Light
Member
lljride said:
Ah I finally reached this stage. I guess I will spend some time leveling. Though I should run in the item world to power up a wand too to make things even faster.
BobTheFork
Member
I noticed something weird. buying and selling from the weapon shop raise the level of the store but the armor does nothing. IS that by design? I don't remember it that way from 3
edit: I'm going crazy on this game tonight. I'm hoping to mostly beat the story by morning : )
edit: I'm going crazy on this game tonight. I'm hoping to mostly beat the story by morning : )
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
On chapter 3 atm. Like 15 hours in lol.
I want my ninja class soon! :|
I want my ninja class soon! :|
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Luigi87 said:Just started the game. Played Disgaea 1 & 2, but skipped 3.
... Holy crap at the Cam-pain
There is just a metric shit-ton of mechanics now... it's insane. ESPECIALLY since you skipped 3, hahaha.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
That's what I just did.TheExodu5 said:
Took the Imperial Seal Valve starts with from level 0 to level 17. Bumped it from +6 to everything(and +8 to atk)to +29 to everything(+39 atk)
Also gained a bunch of levels, tons of HL, and so on.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Damn Pirates always invading my item worlds lol
Trojita said:
Enforcers aren't too rare but they have some uses. The Enforcer Innocent lets you transfer Unsubdued Innocents out of items without having to subdue them; each time you do this, however, the Enforcer goes down in value by 1 and will disappear when you hit 0.
The best use of it, early on at least, is you can use it to gather Manager (+Mana gained) innocents, transfer them all to one item until you have 150, and then subdue that to get a 300 Manager.
TheExodu5 said:
Emblems/Seals are typically a decent choice. I tend to just Item World whatever has the highest enemy levels that I feel like I can handle and then aim for nabbing things off the Bonus list.
